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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:42 PM
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Poll question: Scott Peterson. Did it? Didnt do it?
Keep it simple.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:45 PM
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1. Why do you care?
nt
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:47 PM
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4. Why is it any of your business?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:36 AM
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28. Why can't I get a doughnut?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:45 PM
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2. Don't know
:shrug:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:46 PM
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3. Don't know either
:shrug:
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:01 AM
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5. There was no physical evidence linking him.
The court of public opinion convicted him. Simple as that.
nancy Grace and other TV experts were rabid about his guilt.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:22 AM
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9. No, but there was a pile of circumstantial evidence that added up.
You don't have to have the murder weapon with blood on it to get a conviction.

If all circumstances point to guilt, and the jury doesn't believe the defendant's explanations are believable, then a conviction will occur.

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Peterson began shopping for the 14-foot Gamefisher the weekend a friend threatened to tell his mistress he was married. He did not tell any friends or relatives about the boat.

Peterson left his pregnant wife Christmas Eve morning to drive 90 miles to the bay. He had never fished in the bay before, it was cold, and he passed numerous freshwater lakes, rivers and reservoirs along the way.

Peterson told detectives that his Christmas Eve trip to San Francisco Bay was a last-minute decision, but four days before, he had purchased a two-day fishing license valid for Dec. 23 and 24.

Peterson took a $39 freshwater fishing rod and freshwater lures to the bay. He did not have the proper equipment to catch sturgeon or striped bass, for which he claimed to be fishing.

Peterson manufactured at least one cement weight that is now unaccounted for. Concrete takes at least 24 hours to set.

The remains of Laci Peterson and her fetus were found 1.25 miles from the part of bay where Peterson claimed to be fishing. A hydrologist linked the route of the fishing trip to the location of the child's body.

On Dec. 9, the same day he bought the boat, he told Frey he had "lost his wife" and would be spending his first holiday alone.

Peterson told Frey he was traveling for business, but would be able to spend more time with her by the end of January.

Peterson researched currents, boat launches and fishing grounds in the bay two weeks before his wife disappeared.

Although members of Laci Peterson's family testified that she never mentioned Peterson's boat, police found a hair consistent with her genetic profile on a pair of pliers found in the boat.




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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:54 AM
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11. I still don't know?
I don't think people should be executed based on circumstantial evedence alone. JMHO
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:57 AM
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12. So someone had to see him kill her?
Because even if they found the murder weapon in his car with Laci's DNA on it, we would only be assuming that he was the one who killed her. That would just be circumstantial.

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:03 AM
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13. Well, you know for sure anyway - I'm happy that you are so sure
I cannot be sure because of the type of evidence. I say conviction is fine, but you cannot bring him back to life it the circumstantial evidence falls apart at a later date - as it so often does. I think killing him is unnecessary.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:09 AM
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14. I don't support the death penalty in any case whatsoever.
So I'm not sure what led you to believe that I did.

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:17 AM
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15. I didn't say you did - I merely said I'm not 100% sure he's guilty
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 01:20 AM by Mr_Spock
I Don't Know!! It's clear my expressing doubt and not wanting to kill a man who's guilt cannot be proven 100% doesn't fit into your arguement tact in the lounge tonight.

Let's summarize:

- You are sure he's guilty

- I'm not sure he's guilty

- I am against killing a man who I am not completely sure of his guilt

- You don't support the death penalty in any case.

I'll add that I didn't feel any remorse about Tim McVeigh's execution, though I am a believer that violence begets violence, doesn't matter what the "justification"
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:20 AM
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16. I believe he's guilty, but I don't think he should be put to death.
Nothing illogical in that.


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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:21 AM
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17. I don't support the death penalty
even for that SOB Peterson.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:22 AM
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19. Me either.
I don't support the state-sanctioned death of anyone.

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:22 AM
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18. never said you were illogical, never said you supported the death penalty
Go to bed would ya! Geeze!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:23 AM
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20. Then I'm confused about your point! And I will go to bed!
:hi:

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:28 AM
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22. My point? I'm NOT SURE enough about his guilt to KILL him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My opinion: he's guilty

Am I sure enough to see him killed?: NO

Am I sure enough to see him killed?: NO

Am I sure enough to see him killed?: NO

Am I sure enough to see him killed?: NO

Am I sure enough to see him killed?: NO

What part don't you understand?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:40 AM
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29. I don't understand the part where
it matters how "sure" of guilt you are = whether the death penalty is right or wrong.

If he in reality is guilty: No death penalty.

If *I* think he's guilty: No death penalty.

If the jury thinks he's guilty: No death penalty.

If *you* think he's guilty: No death penalty.



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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:46 AM
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30. I'm taking the reality based approach that IF there is a DP, then
there should be some discretion allowed, or better yet, REQUIRED in the application of the death penalty. I think it should be difficult to execute someone based entirely on circumstantial evidence. In the end, I think that what it says on those tablets the death penalty supporters love so much SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING - THOU SHALT NOT KILL!! NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:49 AM
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31. I agree with you.
Thou Shalt not Kill. No Exceptions.

And certainly not "it's okay to kill if we've got eyewitnesses."


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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:59 AM
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32. Right, killing is always an immoral act - especially when gov't sanctioned
Though given the situation we are stuck with in a few area's that enjoy exposing the worst human emotions of "revenge" and "killer rage", there should be SOME discretion in applying this penalty to persons not 100% beyond all doubt guilty. Why cant it be "beyond any reasonable doubt" for guilt and jail and "beyond ALL doubt" for death penalty"?
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:03 AM
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6. I don't know
And neither do you.

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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:06 AM
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7. Yes (nt).
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:19 AM
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8. Of course he did it.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:30 AM
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10. Of course he did it, the dirty dog...
Horrible crime, senseless as all get-out! That innocent young woman and their child, at term! Hadn't he ever heard the word DIVORCE?

:puke:
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:26 AM
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21. He did it. No doubt. nt
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:30 AM
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23. As I was not a member of the jury, I am not qualified to answer
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:32 AM
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26. Exactly. n/m
n/m
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:30 AM
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24. Most likely
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 01:31 AM by fujiyama
he did.

Can't so for sure one hundred percent...That's why in cases like this they should not be applying the death penalty but he should rot away in a cell for the rest of his miserable life.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:32 AM
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27. I agree n/m
n/m
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:31 AM
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25. Did it -
Even though I am against the death penalty, I would have had no trouble finding him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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