In your opinion, have PETAs extremist actions helped or hurt their cause?

[redqueen]

Poll question: In your opinion, have PETAs extremist actions helped or hurt their cause?

Well?

[Mizmoon]

1. we're talking about them and their issues

they are brilliant strategists. They took an issue no one cared about, animal rights, and made it mainstream.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. Which extremist actions?

Some things PETA has done have helped and some have harmed. I liked their lawsuits against McDonalds'

[redqueen]

3. I was referring to handing out disgusting images to children.

And comparing slaughterhouses to the Holocaust. Those images are disturbing to adults, FCOL.

on edit: I have actually supported them in their actions against KFC and McDonald's... after seeing that stuff... I'm nearly regretting it.

[mhr]

4. Without Extremism, No One Would Listen To Them

Only outlandish behavior will get the attention of the MSM in this country.

[StopTheMorans]

5. that doesn't justify it. if you have a righteous cause, it should be able

to stand on its own.

[mhr]

7. Dream On - Being Ignorant Of Ones Environment Is A Path

To failure.

[StopTheMorans]

8. being ignorant of how extremist tactics will not win you over any audience

other than a small percentage of Americans is a path to failure. PETA turns more people off to animal rights then they bring into the cause.

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[StopTheMorans]

12. spend their money on ad campaigns that make people feel

sympathy for animals, rather than trying to shock them by equating animal abuse with the holocaust. noone likes to be treated like a fucking stupid child, which is how PETA's tactics essentially work. they go on the premise that most people can't think for themselves, and need to be shocked into their world view. i find their tactics extremely judgmental and condescending, and talking down to a person generally does not win them over to your side.


on edit: I can see why you like PETA; calling someone "Einstein" is a very condescending gesture. You've learned well my son :thumbsup:

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[StopTheMorans]

15. if they can't stand on the strength of their ideas, then maybe they should

accept the fact that they are WELL outside the mainstream, and they can take their ball and go home b/c their current ads sure as hell aren't helping their cause. good day...

[mhr]

16. So Because You Don't Like Their Methods They Should Stop

Fighting for what they believe in.

It seem that you are the one with the problem here in the sense that you are so deeply outraged.

I say so what. I am deeply outraged by the Bush administration.

However, I am not fool enough to believe that my outrage will get them to stop.

[StopTheMorans]

18. they shouldn't stop, but they should realize that they're doing more harm

to their cause then they are good. if that's their ultimate goal, then I can understand. if not, you'd think they might try some different tactics. but hey, that's just me :shrug:

[mhr]

20. Two Points Of View - Two Opinions

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[Hobarticus]

9. So why not work to educate, instead of indoctrinate?

The tactics resemble Operation Rescue's, fer crissakes.

[Hobarticus]

6. PETA's damn near made animal rights a dirty word...

I'm all for animal rights, but around these parts, if you claim you're for humane treatment of animals, the next thing you hear is something bad about PETA.

Good cause, loony-tunes execution.

[sandnsea]

11. 50/50

I think they've brought attention to some things that needed changing. Like I went to a circus last year and was horrified by the way they kept some animals. A hippo in a cattle trough, for instance. That was awful. But instead of targeting that particular circus for inhumane treatment, they target ALL circuses. That's stupid. Circuses and zoos generate the love for animals that makes people care that they're endangered or harmed in the first place. And I think it has started making people angry and not listen to them at all anymore, where PETA used to be respected.

[EFerrari]

13. I found out, googling, that one of these folks shares my name.

Any day now, there'll be a knock on the door.

You can't get very far by scaring the cr@p out of people. Imo, it's just a mistake that limits your effectiveness.

[rasputin1952]

17. I think that just as burning a flag ensures that you will infuriate the

majority of Americans and turn them against your cause, showing a "mother" butchering a rabbit on a comic cover and handing it to children will most assuredly harm their cause. Want to get a kid to hate you? Attack thier parents.

I'm not sure this is a way for them to get their point across.

[Coastie for Truth]

19. I have been commanded by Her Excellency, Queen Sophia

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to seek a decision of the United States Supreme Court declaring that that the Fourteenth Amendment's "due process" and "equal protection" provisions apply to quadrupedal "persons" and that quadrupedal "persons" are indeed persons, under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, on at least an equal footing with "corporations" (Santa Clara v. Southern Pacific Railroad, Minneapolis & St. Louis Railroad v. Beckwith, Noble v. Union River Logging, Lochner v. New York).


She would like PETA to pay for her counsel.

[YankeyMCC]

21. I voted hurt

Because I know so many people who just dismiss them as kooks.

But after reading a few posts here maybe it isn't so clear cut. They have brought their issue into everyone's minds. And you often hear things along the lines of "PETA are a bunch of kooks not that I don't think animals should be treated fairly." followed by some tapping around whatever particular animal issue is being discussed trying to find more reasonable solutions.

So maybe they have hurt themselves as an organization so that it will not be PETA that makes big break through as time goes on, but perhaps they have opened the door for others.