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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:47 PM
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Unnecessary Movie Deaths.
I don't know if this has been asked before, but who cares...

When it comes to movies you love.... or movies you hate... There are at times that character that dies, and you think to yourself "HEY THAT'S NOT RIGHT" or at least" He deserved to make it till the end". So tell me, in your movie watching experience, what character (or characters) have died in your favorite, and least favorite films, that you thought should've lived, or at least survived with severe injuries :). Who didn't deserve their demise. Bonus points if you can name who whould've went in their place heh.

For some reason, I've never like the fact Quint got eaten by the Shark (Bruce) in Jaws. I'm not sure, but after the USS Indianapolis story he tells, I always want him to live, even though I know what his fate is going to end up being. I guess one of our three heros needed to be feasted upon, but I always wish damn Quint lived to scratch his nails on the chalkboard one more time.

What are yours?
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:50 PM
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1. I wanted Leaving Las Vegas to end happily.
Have the guy get into a 12 step program, turn his life around and get his act together.
I was not happy with the ending.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:54 PM
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2. Meg Ryan in "City of Angels"
Tom Hanks in "Saving Private Ryan" --- however, his dying in "Road to Perdition" was in integral part of the plot.

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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:58 PM
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5. what about characters that SHOULD have died?
???
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:48 PM
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36. Like Ben and J Lo in Gigli?
they should have been mutilated horribly. Then I would have enjoyed the film FAR more.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:47 PM
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57. Adam Baldwin in "The Patriot"
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:57 PM
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3. You probably named my #1 pick
Another one would be Jude Law in "Cold Mountain."
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:48 PM
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70. Oh yeah. That was soooooooo sad....
I couldn't finish the book when I found out Inman dies at the end.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:57 PM
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4. A few...
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 02:00 PM by opiate69
Donny in the Big Lebowski... the first time I saw it, I was crushed... although, I now know that the Coen Bros. can't have Steve Buscemi in a movie and not kill him off..

Betty/Diane in Mulholland Drive - Well, kinda.. we just watched it last night for the first time, and her suicide really threw me.. but, it really wouldn't be the same film any other way..

Sean Penn's character in 21 Grams - Pretty much the same as Betty/Diane.. wuold have been a completely different film if he had kived, but what a downer.

On edit: almost forgot the lead in "Y Tu Mama Tambien"... I wasn't ready for that either, even though it explains pretty much everything about the film.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:58 PM
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6. I didn't think Jamie Kennedy's character in Scream 2 should have died
He was the best thing about that movie and the original. I guess it wasn't that bad but it kind of ticked me off.
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:00 PM
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7. I was just thinking about
Editing that in, now that you mention it I'm not going to. But he was the best thing in Scream 2, and I hated it when his demise happen.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:13 PM
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8. Kevin Costner in "The War"
It sucked when he bought it.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:55 PM
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9. The decapitation
of Mrs. Voorhees in Friday the 13th.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:57 PM
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10. In the book of "Jaws"
Matt Hooper (sp?) buys it. (Richard Dreyfusses character.)
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:29 PM
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11. Yes your right...
I hadn't read the book in a long time, so I didn't remember that.
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:44 PM
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12. Wasn't Sheriff Brody's wife
cheating on him with Matt in the book? Hooper was a more sympathetic character in the movie.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:51 PM
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14. Yep, and they started filming that.
But no one on the set, include Dreyfuss, could take an affair between him and Brodys wife serious. The whole set broke into uncontrolled laughter and they had to script that subplot out of the movie.

:)

It worked in the book as THAT Matt Hooper was a hunky sort of graduate student guy, as opposed to Dreyfusses geeky graduate student guy looks.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:11 PM
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44. Spielberg kinda massacred the book...
don't get me wrong, Jaws is one of the all time greats... but the book was better imho... usually is :7
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:48 PM
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13. I hated the movie "Hook"
It would have sucked no matter what happened. But I thought it was completely stupid and unnecessary for the kid (Rubio? Ruvio? Julio?) to die. It added nothing to the story and just made it that much more of a bummer.
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:22 PM
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50. Rufio
And yeah. You're right.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:51 PM
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15. Wasn't exactly unnecessary
but when Guido Orefice died in La Vita è bella, I cried like a baby and wished he hadn't
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:53 PM
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16. Quint had to die, he was too cool to live
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:14 PM
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17. Chris Cooper's character in "Adaptation"
Surely the man's been through enough ... and it wasn't even his idea to go after Nicholas Cage like that. If anything, he was trying to talk Meryl Streep out of it.

Perhaps both of Cage's characters could have been eaten by the alligator instead, and "the orchid thief" could have written the story down and started another new career as a Hollywood screenwriter?
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FreedomFry Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:57 PM
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72. Chris Cooper's character in "Matewan"
Joe Kenehan, the labor organizer, a genuine Everyman. After the shootout, we find Joe's body near the railroad tracks. What a waste. Do we ever need him now.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:23 PM
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18. Jim Brown in Ice Station Zebra
There was no reason for that...

Oh yeah, hewas the black guy. They ALWAYS kill off the black guy.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:52 PM
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25. So, so true
In fact, I proposed a death-rule in survival / science-fiction / action flicks, it goes like this

Token Black guy always killed after helping others
Hispanic / Asian not worthy of being killed individually, they die in groups and are usually anonymous
Arab / middle-eastern looking guy is killed and the audience starts clapping
White woman - never dies, practically immortal / indestructible. Always pulls through with no damage to herself or her make-up :D
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:36 PM
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33. White chicks only get killed in horror flicks
But they have to be the slutty kind
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:23 PM
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51. What about Trinity?
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:41 PM
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53. That was a noble sacrifice
But anyways, she wasn't a virgin

White virgins never get killed
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:49 PM
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58. Jim Brown in "The Dirty Dozen"
...same thing.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:02 PM
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63. Was watching SouthPark
and a kid got off the bus to see if there was a monster, and my wife pointed out he was wearing a red Star Trek shirt. You knew he didnt have long.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:19 PM
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19. Here's mine
Mykelti Williamson in Forrest Gump
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:29 PM
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20. Mr. Spock
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:05 PM
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42. "i am and shall always be your friend"
we wouldn't have got thatmoment without it. though the whole scene was cheapened when they istantly brought him back in the next film.

but, hell, even i wanted spock back, so i can't complain
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:33 PM
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21. Gunnery Sergeant Hartman in Full Metal Jacket!
That mean little man made the whole damn movie. Once he died, I realized that I just didn't give a fuck what happened to all the recruits.

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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:40 AM
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92. Yes! R. Lee Ermey gave that picture the jolt it needed!
When Hartman's killed, the training story is over, which is far more interesting than the more conventional war story that follows.

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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:43 PM
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22. The toll booth guy in "Fargo".
There was NO reason for him to be shot and killed.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:50 PM
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23. Dead Poets Society. Forget Kids Name In Movie But He Commits Suicide
at the end.

I thought it seemed fake and contrived.

Mentioned this to a woman theater producer I was working for at the time & she said the book was different... kid doesn't kill himself in the original version of the story.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:03 PM
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39. Neil. I thought maybe Ethan Hawke should have bit it after his
"sweaty toothed madman" scene. }(

Damn Kurtwood Smith playing another bastard dad (Neil's).
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:58 PM
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73. I thought so too!
It was out of nowhere and seemed like an obvious ploy.

Nobody else I said this too agreed with me. The reasons I cited may have been inapplicable - I said it was irrational (most suicides seem irrational) and out-of-the-blue (most suicides are) but in a movie there needs to be some realism attached to that. There was no evidence that his dad was so oppressive that it wouldn't have just been a normal conflict between parents and child.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:51 PM
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24. I cried like a baby...
When that cute lil' animated shoe bought it in "Roger Rabbit"...
Man, those were the days of really good acid...

Why do the good ones always die, while the evil characters live on and on?


http://presidentevilonline.com/rummy.html

D
"I LOVE horror movies, man... I just don't want to LIVE in one."
More scary fun at
http://presidentevilonline.com
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:51 PM
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61. We usually fast forward through that part....
...everybody in the house just gets too upset.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:05 PM
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75. ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!
I knowit!

I haven't seen the movie since I was 12, and I still remember that part!!!!!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:54 PM
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26. Thelma And Louise...
... I would have loved to see a Thelma and Louise II: The Escape... or Thelma and Louise: On The Lam in Europe.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:58 PM
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27. Matthew Broderick in Glory.
:(
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:06 PM
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30. Yeah, but
I guess it wouldn't have been as accurate had he lived.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:09 PM
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48. True.
Still a crappy way to end the flick. :(
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:04 PM
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64. I don't think they were worried too much
about accuracy in Glory.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:05 PM
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28. Sonny Corleone
Everytime I see that movie I find myself telling him not to stop at the toll booths!
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:06 PM
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29. "Pay it Forward"
Absolutely ruined the end of the movie for me.
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barackmyworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:35 PM
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32. it was so tragic
that end was shocking and so sad--probably more sad than necessary
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:01 PM
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38. yeah i know, that sucked...
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:15 PM
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78. I agree
that was my first thought.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:31 PM
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31. Serious point - Not enough characters die in movies
I like my films darker than most. Love crime noir. I really like when movies screw with your expectations. The best way for films to screw with your expectations is to have a main character die.

For example: The Sands of Iwo Jima. One of the Duke's finest films. Would the movie have meant the same if he was not killed at the end?

Another example: Terminator 2. The films was about family values (really) and selflessness. It would not be the same if arnie did not die.
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:00 PM
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37. The Terminator did need to die...
and I agree with you on the family values thing.

But at times some characters in my opinion just no point in them dying.. or I think they didn't need to. I'm not against death, or even more death in films, just saying at times there is that character, you think should've lived. The Terminator needed to die, you're right, it wouldn't have been the same.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:03 PM
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41. Wow, you really are angry.
I remember watching the miniseries Lonesome Dove and crying, "But Gus can't be dead!" My then-housemate also found fault with Gus's final letter to Clara, which basically wishes her luck and asks her to look after Lorena. "You're a wonderful person. Thanks for loving me" is what my housemate thought he should have written.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:41 PM
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34. I guess the title says it all but William Petersen in 'To Live and Die in
L.A.'.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:45 PM
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35. Vincent Vega's death in "Pulp Fiction"
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 06:47 PM by Beware the Beast Man
Kind of just happened, then that was it. Very anti-climactic, which I'm sure was the point.

I'll also add Marvin, too. That scene was sick.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:34 AM
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96. Every time John Travolta came out of the bathroom in that movie-
he had a big problem to deal with.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:03 PM
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40. yoda in return of the jedi
it served no purpose plot-wise. guess lucas felt he had to have as many deaths as possible-but what are the odds that yoda's 900 year lifespan ends just as luke and vader have their faceoff?

weak writing, pure and simple
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:06 PM
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43. The Yoda death never bugged me...
I understand your point though..

heck I never got over worked on the Boba fett death (Although I admit his death was cheesy). Please no one post how Boba is not dead because in some of the star war books he survives, for movie purposes he's dead... "cries and salutes the fallen Boba"
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:11 PM
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45. Fett's death was one of the WORST on-screen deaths I ever saw.
Here we have this big badass bounty hunter getting hit by a blind Han Solo in his backpack and screaming like Shemp from The Three Stooges while he flies into Jabba's Sail Barge. What the HELL was Lucas thinking???
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:20 PM
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46. Richard Gere in Sommersby. John Travolta in Phenomenon.
The Gere death just haunted me. Not a great movie at all, and I'm not a huge RG fan. Just the nobility and all...

And I hated that George Malley (JT) has to die in Phenomenon. Ugh. Couldn't they just cure the tumor? He'd be back to his regular guy self but happily in love?

I cry buckets when, knowing he's terminal, he says, "Will you love me the rest of my life?"

And she (Kyra Sedgewick) says, "No. I'll love you the rest of mine."

booooo hooooooo Get me a Kleenex!

And don't even get me started on all the deaths in The Thorn Birds, especially the love-child, Dane. He was there on the page, and then drowned. (same in the mini-series...that counts, right?

OOOOH, and Mariko in Shogun. I hated that!
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:25 PM
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80. Thanks! I was trying to remember the name and almost
turned my thinker inside out! I told everyone that Sommersby was a fantastic movie but to turn it off ten minutes before it ends because the end totally spoiled it for me.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:29 PM
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82. He didn't exactly "die", but in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
I really really wanted Jack Nicholson to get away. The lobotomy was almost worse than if he had died because they beat him. Until the Indian killed him, and that was almost cathartic.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:36 PM
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47. Got three from two films...
From Dusk Till Dawn:
Sex Machine. Incredibly cool dude who buys it because he was distracted for 3 seconds, making sure Kate was all right. Seriously, they couldn't have had someone else survive the initial fight and then get bit in his place?

Dog Soldiers:
Joe. Just one of those characters you feel sorry for.
Spoon. Fights a werewolf, one-on-one, with no gun, and is winning, then gets screwed by the plot. Something that balls-to-the-wall ought to buy him a free pass for survival.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:14 PM
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49. "The Joker" in Batman
Jack was the best villain. The next movie was ok, not the same without Jack, though!
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:32 PM
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52. Two:
- The horse in "The Neverending Story." As a kid, I never watched past that scene.

- Leon in "Leon the Professional." It made sense but...I hated it.

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:06 PM
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65. Aerax is back
at the end of the movie though. I agree it sucked though. Hate itr when any animals die. Even dinosaurs on the Discovery Channel.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:42 PM
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54. Darth Vader..
He should've lived, turned Luke to the Dark Side, and then they'd be the rulers of the galactic Empire. Luke's Sith name could be Darth Onerous, because he's such a whiner.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:02 AM
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55. King Kong! There was no reason to kill the big ape!
He didn't mean no harm, he was just scared!... and he protected Ann all that time in the jungle... they should've lured him down with a big banana and taken him back to Skull Island...
I'm referring, of course, to the original b&w Willis Cooper masterpiece...
The 70's remake Kong, I LIKED seeing that thing get killed... what a piece of crap!
I won't judge the new one til I've seen it, but when it comes to the very idea of remaking that old classic, I dunno... primitive as it was, there was just something about it... particularly in the end, the pathos is tremendous... even by today's standards, those are some mighty big shoes to fill...

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FreedomFry Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:12 PM
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77. But then, they couldn't have ended with the line ...
"'Twas beauty killed the beast!"
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:28 AM
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85. yeah, I argue against my own case...
He HAD to die, dammit... and I love the wacky near-double-take the cop does in response to that last line...some parts are so awesomely corny, but it's still a classic, with a real tear-jerker ending...

BTW, that's a really great sig line you've got there! Never seen it before...
Why do people put them in such mute tones of grey ya can't hardly read 'em? (Yours is not that bad but some are!)
DXS
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:36 AM
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56. Mine
Sean Connery in Finding Forrester. Why he had to go back to Scotland and die?

James Whitmore in The Shawshank Redemption. The guy that was released from prison and hanged himself scratching Broks was here on the wall.

Kevin Spacey in American Beauty. This was so unnecessary. He was the only normal character in the movie.

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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:50 PM
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59. I think all the characters on "Closer" SHOULD have been run over by a bus.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:51 PM
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60. Nah, I thought Natalie Portman was great in that movie (Spoiler)
But she was smart never to give out her real name to those nut jobs!
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:52 PM
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62. Maude in "Harold and Maude"
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:07 PM
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66. Captain Barbosa
in Pirates of the Caribbean. Where are they going to get a better pirate for the sequal?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:19 PM
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67. Turner and Hooch
not going to give it away but come on!!!
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:38 PM
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68. Dermot Mulroney in "Copycat" & Dylan McDermott, "In the Line of Fire"
Yes, I can keep them both straight. :) They were both bumped off so the heroic cop (Holly Hunter and Clint Eastwood respectively) could brood, then have extra incentive for going after the psycho-villian.

Also, I have a real thing about kids being tortured of killed in "entertainment," so any movie that offs a kid (Lucas Black at the start of "X-Files" for example) automatically goes on my "bad" list.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:44 PM
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69. Yeah, both of those deaths....
(Mulroney and McDermit)sorta took the heart out of the rest of the movie.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:54 PM
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71. Robert Pastorelli's mule-driver character in "Dances With Wolves"
His turn had an authentic feel to it -- crazy, disheveled, eccentric. And he dies by being made into -- slowly and methodically -- a human pincushion of Pawnee arrows.

Did his character die just to show how mean those Pawnees were? :shrug:

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FreedomFry Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:01 PM
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74. Rico!
But then we wouldn't have had one of the most memorable movie lines ...

"Is this is end of ... Rico?" (Edward G. Robinson)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:11 PM
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76. Scarlett O'Hara
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 11:12 PM by XemaSab
at the end of "Gone With The Wind."

So tragic. I always cry at that part.

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FreedomFry Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:23 AM
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90. You're kidding, right?
Scarlett O'Hara didn't die, either in the novel or the movie. In fact, she ended the movie with her signature line, "Tomorrow is another day!"
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:23 AM
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95. Boo hoooo, it was the death of Bonnie Blue Butler... unnecessary.....
...the marriage was sooo doomed w/o killing the lovely baby.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:12 PM
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102. Why do you have to give away the end?
Spoiler....

;-)
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:21 PM
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79. The literate Indian (can't remember the character name) in "Dead Man".
And it's such an unceremonious death, which makes it even more tragic somehow.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:29 PM
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81. Darth Maul in Episode I.
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 11:30 PM by Borgnine
The prequels would have been better structured had there been one main arch-nemesis throughout all three (besides Palpatine, but he lurks in the shadows unknown to the Jedi). That would have decreased action figure sales though, wouldn't it?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:32 PM
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83. All those poor people in Titanic!
Honestly, when characters who DESERVE to die get offed it's called RELIEF.

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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:51 PM
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84. Marlon Brando in Mutiny on the Bounty.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:27 AM
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86. Ned Kingsley Zissou in "The Life Aquatic."
Just watched it and don't think he needed to go.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:41 AM
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87. The amorous widow stoned to death
in Zorba the Greek

Buford Pusser's wife in Walking Tall, that was certainly gratuitous.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:53 AM
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88. An observation ...

Perhaps I'm taking the question a bit too seriously (maybe I don't belong in the Lounge right now :-)), but after reading through the replies, some of these choices use reasoning that actually argues a character should die. IOW, there's a difference between "that's not right" that the character died in the context of the movie and "I wish that character had lived." The latter often negates the former.

Some characters must die for the story to be the story it is. Quint's death is a bit contrived due to changes in the story for the movie, but as you say, one of the heros had to die. The Indianapolis story sets up a "this makes sense" atmosphere. He's cheated death once. You don't get away with that sort of thing again. And it sucked because we liked him, but that was necessary for us to feel the level of achieved vengance we get when Brody tells the shark to "Eat this, you son of a bitch!"

Like another respondent, I think more people in movies should die. (I like HP Lovecraft, if that gives you any clue as to my leanings.) American audiences have, however, grown accustomed to the "happy ending" where everything eventually works out okay, or at least mostly okay. The death of Guido Orefice in _Life is Beautiful_ was essential for that movie, but his death so turned off many American movie-goers -- he was so likeable that everyone wanted him to be okay -- that the movie didn't do as well as it should have.

Deaths of major characters that don't make sense in the context of the movie, however, are distracting and can break the suspension of disbelief. The suicide in _Dead Poets_ is an example of this. It wasn't necessary. It was "too dramatic" for the circumstances.

Anyway, I'll hush now.

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:51 AM
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89. The younger brother in American History X...
I mean, the whole point of the story is the struggle of the reformed ex-skinhead older brother to win him back from the "dark side." He does so, and for what? So that Redeemed Younger Brother can immediately get blown away by an African-American kid in the rest room???

And then, we're supposed to accept that the ex-skinhead blames himself for what happened. Right. Excuse me, but I'd expect the character to revert to white-supremacist mode and start looking for an African-American boy (or two or three) to take out in revenge.

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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:27 AM
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91. Al Gore in "Election02" and John Kerry in "Election04"...
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 03:31 AM by KrazyKat
The fact that these knowledgeable, involved, brainy characters weren't standing at the end of these twin sagas is proof that the good guys don't always win. And now all we have to watch is a godawful, non-stop horror show starring a witless, phony Texan and his evil, oil-rich boss from Wyoming.

But I heard that there's a sequel coming out in the near future: "Election08," where the bad guys finally get theirs. :)
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:15 AM
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93. There are a lot, but the one who comes to mind is Mel Gibson's "Signs."
What a disappointment, like most of the movies I have seen in the past few years. The aliens killed off his dogs, in a most horrific fashion, and I was taught, early on, that GOOD movies do not kill either children or animals. And the death of his wife, which he was very bitter about, for good reason, was because she was cut in half by a car accident, but still able to speak to him. But she was assured death. Not cool, not a good movie. I'm sorry.:shrug:
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 08:44 AM
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94. I was just ticked off.....
REALLY Ticked off... that they take all this time to board up their house.. and they don't think for one second to bring the dog in!!!!!! That really pissed me off.

I thought it was a okay, but definitely no Sixth Sense or Unbreakable (Which I think is better than it is given credit for). However, the Village... ugh.... M. Night is just going down down down. Which is why I liked Robotic Chicken's little spoof of him "What a Twist!"
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:19 AM
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113. Yes, that pissed me off, as well! That was my FIRST thought!
And, if I remember right, there were two dogs. But then, obviously, you and I are both dog lovers. My little one went with me, today, when I got my car serviced, rather than leave him on his own. LOL!

I thought, as this movie progressed, it just got worse and worse, culminating with the fight with the alien. Yikes! Totally unbelievable. The promos made it sound like a suspense film, which it was, at the beginning, but then it just degenerated into farce.

I also saw "The Sixth Sense," which made much more sense to me, outlandish as the premise was. IMHO, a much better film. I did not see "Unbreakable," but will look it up. I don't go to the movies that often, anymore, since most disappoint.:-(
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:35 AM
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97. Planet Earth in When Worlds Collide...
That freaked me out as a kid when I first saw it...of course now if all the fundies and freepers were left behind when the ship took off I wouldn't mind so much; I'd be waving and laughing at them as we headed down the ramp...

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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:36 AM
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98. Hot Shots Part Deux
Lot's of gratuitous death in that one.

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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:38 AM
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99. bridget fonda's dog in 'Single White Female'...
and her boyfriend, and the guy upstairs.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:39 AM
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100. Luke in 'Cool Hand Luke'
but- i guess that was the point.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:42 AM
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101. Ralph Machio's character in "the Outsiders".
or Boromir in "The Fellowship of the Ring"
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:59 PM
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106. Boromir had to die--he died in the book.
But, thanks to the moviemakers & Sean Bean, you really cared when he died. Not so in the book.

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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:52 PM
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112. There is never a reason
to kill Sean Bean. Never.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:21 PM
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103. Stanley Kubrick's 'The Shining'; Dick Hallorann (Scatman Crothers)
I mean, COME-ON-PEOPLE! Having Hallorann get a little tingle
something was wrong at the inn... Playing trains, planes, and
snowplows in a blizzard to go the 1000 miles to get there...
Then walking in and getting an axe between the shoulder blades!

Worst plot device to get a nominal character in the cross
hairs cuz you aren't quite ready to kill off a main character
yet!

STUPIDEST MOST UNNECESSARY MOVIE DEATH... EVER!

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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:51 PM
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104. Ben in the original "Night of the Living Dead" (1968)
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 01:51 PM by mcscajun
He makes it all through the night against a seemingly endless onslaught of flesh-eating zombies only to get shot by the Pennsylvania sheriff when exiting the house.

I sat in a theater in 1968 rooting for Ben to survive, and BAM! What a mind-fuck that was.
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:54 PM
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105. I actually like that ending...
It was a nice little false happy ending.. the zombies defeated.. help is on the way.. our hero has won.... BAM.... gets shot and now his body will burn....

Much different the sequel... when the guy (Forgot his name) at the last second decides against suicide... runs through the zombies and makes it to the helicopter to escape. I actually like that end to though... since while the original was the false happy ending.. the sequel waas the "never give up hope" type ending in which no matter how hopeless things are... you keep on going.

For the record.. this is the longest thread I've ever started.. heh :)
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:01 PM
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107. John Wayne in "The Cowboys"
There was just no need for it....

When he died in "The Shootist" everyone knew it was coming...it was what he wanted.

I hated Bruce Dern after he killed JW...:)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:06 PM
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108. Donnie, of course.
No- on second thought, he really DID have to die.

The Dude abides.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:12 PM
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109. Jesus in "The Passion"
Just kidding, although a little focus on his teachings prior to his painful death would have been nice.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:20 PM
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110. 99 times out of 100, characters are "marked" for death early
I think the ones we object most to dying are those that aren't so obviously doomed, or the times we didn't catch the clues. The first movie death that really got to me was Treat Williams' Berger in Hair. I didn't see it coming.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:25 PM
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111. Joaquin Phoenix
in Return to Paradise.

Tom Hanks, in Road to Perdition

Willem Dafoe in Platoon

Morgan Freeman in the Unforgiven

Lila Lipscomb's son, in Fahrenheit 911
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