Did Paula Abdul do it?

[Shell Beau]

I have to say yes. Sure Corey Clark has an axe to grind, a book coming out, and an album. No question about his motives, but evidence seems to say she was getting a piece of his American Idol pie!

[SCDem]

1. I say Nope

I think those phone calls... which are the only tangible evidence... were made after it was found out that he had a prior criminal record and so was booted. I was just calling him to console him which if you listen to the messages would make perfect sense.

[Shell Beau]

4. What about the people at the Sprint store that say they came

in together. What about his new clothes that he couldn't have paid for. What about her telling him not to talk to the press? Sounds fishy to me. I still think she did it. He also described her house pretty well. Not sure if he was correct, but I don't know...

[Phentex]

17. I agree. She has the gig of a lifetime....

why ruin it? She may have helped him by buying him stuff and supporting him but that doesn't mean she slept with him.

[AngryAmish]

20. Why ruin it? Because she is a whack-job.

People ruin good things all the time. Especially when they are high .

[Phentex]

27. I think she likes her bling more than her blow...

AI keeps her in the money.

[AngryAmish]

28. But she is still a whack-job

And whack-jobs do stupid things.

[Phentex]

30. Was there a question as to whether she is a whack-job or not?

I didn't see that question. It's Paula Abdul. I believe whack-job is a given.

[WI_DEM]

60. there are dates on those phone records

and apparently they start well before the allegations came out.

[Debbi801]

2. I think she did, too...

IMO, if she didn't do it, she and Fox would have come out saying it was a lie, they were going to sue for slander, etc.; instead of the pathetic "I'm not going to respond" response.

Debbi

[Tyrone Slothrop]

18. By extension, does that mean you believed the Swift Boaters?

Because their response was basically the same as Kerry's to those allegations.

[Worst Username Ever]

45. good point.

Not denying something has nothing to do with guilt.

[Jessica]

3. Maybe ...

I just don't understand why it's such a big deal. If he were under age, then this would've warranted a full hour on Primetime. But, he was 22 - who gives a shit? I'm sure Simon has had his share ...

The only thing that might matter is if she was helping him. But, I still don't care.

[Shell Beau]

5. It wouldn't be a big deal, but if you were one of the other contestants,

would you not feel a little jilted to know that someone was getting a little inside help. Even though they don't actually effect the outcome, their opinions to carry some weight with the public. But I have to say,that I think he is a cutie, although what he is doing is pretty shitty.

[xultar]

6. Yes, but it shouldn't be a bigge if a Woman is gettin hers! I was

concerned cuz the guy looked and behaved too much like Michael Jackson to be sexy enough for the bumpin-uglies.

Feel me?

[Jack Rabbit]

7. Who cares?

The best way to deal with a crooked politician is to vote him out of office and send him to the pen.

The best way to deal with a crooked judge on a television game show (if Ms. Abdul did indeed do it) does not differ at all from the way of dealing with television beign generally insipid (regardless of whether or not Ms. Abdul did it):



Image from Kill Your Television

[txaslftist]

22. I don't care.

It's a game show, for chrissakes.

[yvr girl]

8. I say I don't care

I can't believe how much 'news' time has been devoted to this story.

[Shell Beau]

9. I have to agree with you there, but I love juicy gossip sometimes!

[yvr girl]

12. If the story was confined to ET

I wouldn't mind, but it's not.

The same thing with the Pat O'Brian story. I can't believe there was a special on that last night.

[MemphisTiger]

14. You love gossip, with your avatar?

Are you sure?

[Shell Beau]

15. Yeah, I love celebrity gossip. Just knowing they don't have the

perfect life people think they do. You aren't suggesting I am a hypocrite, are you? I never said I was perfect!

[Name removed]

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[Shell Beau]

25. Wow! You don't even know me, but whatever.

I am a Christian, but last time I checked, I am also a human who, surprising as it may seem, sins. Yeah it is a guilty pleasure,just like smoking(sin, harming the body), me sitting here typing instead of working (sin, lazy) and oh so many other sins that I as a Christian and a human commit every single day. Are you also suggesting that I as a Christian should be perfect (try as I might, I will only set myself up for failure. By the way, what's your problem anyway?

[MemphisTiger]

29. Read my previous reply, nobody is perfect

However, you are a devout Christian and talk openly about sinning. Don't you think that is wrong? BTW, I have no problem. I just say an inconsistency.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

32. I'm more concerned about the judge not lest YE be judged stuff

[Shell Beau]

33. I don't care for the way you talk down to me as if I do not know that

gossip is sinning. I try to educate myself on the Bible everyday. My point was that even though there are more important things happening in this world, I still am, for some reason, curious about this story. I watch American Idol and wanted to know the background info. I had no idea you would try to turn this into something it's not. And by the way, I'll be sure to take my sins up with God. All Christians in a sense are hypocrites because we can never live up to what Jesus was.

[MemphisTiger]

39. No one is asking us to be what Jesus was, but we should

strive to live as much as possible to His teachings, this includes not treating something like gossip as just a "guilty pleasure." I'm not putting you down, I'm just bringing something to your attention. Try not to take everything so hard.

[Shell Beau]

41. Okay, whatever, I'll be sure to remember that next time. Thank you for

enlightening me. I had no idea this thread would turn into a lesson on Christ. Gossip, hmmm, who knew I could be such a horrible Christian. Sorry for taking this "so" hard, I usually try to defend myself when I am called a hypocrite. Further, I am through discussing Jesus and gossip with you. I appreciate the effort though. :)

[MemphisTiger]

56. I want to apologize, I read back over my posts and realized

how pissy I sounded. I'm on a new diet this week and it's day 3. Again, I'll try to keep my mood under control.

[Shell Beau]

57. Thank you. Apology accepted!

:toast:

[Texasgal]

44. Highjacking this thread

to talk about God and sinning is pretty silly. There are several religious forums here on DU that chat about that any day of the week...check it out.

It amazes me that when people don't like the subject they ATTACK the OP for other stupid shit.

End of RANT!

[Jessica]

31. We can all be hypocrites ...

But, not all of us judge others ... as you are clearly doing.

[Shell Beau]

34. Thank you! Agreed.

:)

[Jessica]

36. I just don't understand ...

the point of coming into someone else's thread & putting them down. If you don't like the subject, then ignore it. It's not that hard!

:) :hi:

[Shell Beau]

40. Yeah, I had no idea Paula Abdul could turn itnto this. Oh! Well! No biggie

[Phentex]

46. worse yet....

If a person's avatar defines all of their interests, we're all doomed.

I mean, what does my coffee and donut say to you? :D

[Shell Beau]

49. Well I have this image of a Tweek and Cartman mix on Southpark.

And yes, I as a Christian watch Southpark :evilgrin: Get the flames ready.

[Phentex]

54. There goes my image of you.....

HA!

[Shell Beau]

55. Well, damn.

:crazy: :spank:

[Worst Username Ever]

51. Hypocrite!

You have donuts in your avatar, but at the same time insinuate in this post that they are bad. What is your problem??? It is these inconstancies that bother me!

:hi:

[Phentex]

53. well, YOU have a stapler!...

It's supposed to be a PAPERCLIP!!! Get with it!

:)

[Texasgal]

10. It's a network battle.

That's really all it is. American Idol is so wildly popular the other network HAD to do something...... It's just a ratings thing.

[Shell Beau]

11. I think so too!

[jeffrey_X]

58. It's that damn liberal media...

Michael Jackson
Runaway Bride
Katie Holms and Tom Cruise
and now Paula.

What a waste of time and money.

[MemphisTiger]

13. What ammunition?

the tape hasn't been verified. You sound like my family that thinks if it's on TV it's true.

[Shell Beau]

16. What's up with you?

I don't believe everything on TV, I happen to believe this, so what?
I'm not naive, I'm not a hypocrite (at least I try not to be). I just happen to be fascinated with Hollywood and celebrities, Big Deal! Everyone is entitled to guilty pleasures every now and then.

[jackelope72]

19. The question I have to ask is...

if this is all true, why wait until now to "clear things up"?

The only thing I could think of, looking at this guy, was "sleazebag". He's (at most) a slightly-above-average talent who hopes that a little scandal will push his album onto the charts.

What's REALLY sad is, it'll probably work.

[Shell Beau]

21. I definitely think he is doing this for the publicity, no doubt.

I never thought he was that great of a singer, really. But even though the timing is suspicious, I still think it is true.

[aeolian]

23. Personally, and only because the girls at work say I look like the guy,

I hope he did sleep with her. :)

Rock-on, me-looking dude!

[Shell Beau]

26. I did post earlier that I thought he was cute!!!

:)

[aeolian]

37. LOL. Too bad I can't sing.

*wink, wink*

[Shell Beau]

42. Well if it makes you feel any better, he wasn't a great singer either.

:crazy:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

35. What evidence?

FIrst of all just to be a contestant on those shows one has to pass a background check.

Sure, the contestant was vetted poorly in this case..and I can assure you the person who LET that person be ON the show most probably no longer works for the network.

As for whether Paula had contact AFTER the fact, who knows?

As far as people saying she is a whack job, she's actually had relatively FEW bad PR occasions for a celebrity but for her high profile divorces but they were with people IN HER LEAGUE.

I will wait for further evidence.

[Shell Beau]

38. I understand your point.

Her messages to him about not talking to the press seems odd to me. If he had nothing to tell the press, why would she call him to say that. And also the Sprint store said they came in together. Of course it could all be lies or coincidence, but I don't know. She just sure seems chummy with certain contestants (Corey, Constantine, Justin G. from season 1). Maybe I'm reading too much into this. It's not really a big deal, just wanted to get other people's take on it.:)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

43. She's actually been very sweet to almost ALL of the contestants

[Shell Beau]

47. True, she has a hard time telling them when they are not very

good. She seems nice enough. :crazy:

[sundog]

48. I'm afraid I believe it's a smear

just sayin... not that I like Paula or anything... but my gut just tells me that :)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

50. The kid wants 15 more minutes

[Shell Beau]

52. Always go with your gut.

:)

[WI_DEM]

59. I don't know if they had a sexual affair or not but there is evidence

to support that she was communicating a great deal with a contestant she was supposed to be judgeing. All those phone bills and it appears people can id her buying a cell phone with Corey and clothes. So that puts her credibility as a judge in the trash bin. Not that she really had that much credibility as it is.

[flvegan]

61. Paula who?

[SharonRB]

62. I agree with everything you said

He certainly has motivation for coming out with this now, but he also has enough evidence that it actually happened. How stupid was she? She could bring down the whole show based on the laws created after the quiz show scandals of the 50s.

[Shell Beau]

63. yeah, I know.

:shrug:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

64. I say no. Not that I don't think she's capable, but by all accounts

the contestants were supposedly very well insulated and had no real contact with the judges.

[noonwitch]

65. I could care less, as I don't watch the show

All I can say is that Simon is right about what he calls the "popera" trend in music. I love that type of thing-Sarah Brightman, Josh Groban, Andreas Bocelli, Amici, etc.