Time magazine picks the 100 best films of all time

[quaoar]

Some of these are pretty strange:

http://www.time.com/time/2005/100movies/the_complete_list.html

[Kire]

1. Finding Nemo. Strange? You think?

:freak:

[swag]

2. Missed "She Freak," didn't they?

Well, that's their own tough shit.



"Jade, you're goin' down. All the way down."

[sir_captain]

3. Kudos to them

on picking City Lights and Barry Lyndon, two of my very favorite films

[KitchenWitch]

4. Weird

some of those are downright weird.

[Archae]

5. Son of a B*****!!! "Wrath Of Khan" isn't on the list!

Hey, it's better than a lot of the crapola movies on that list.

[quaoar]

7. I think Wrath of Khan lost out

to Star Trek V: The Undiscovered Country.

[Deja Q]

31. I second that! And it deserves tro be on there unlike 'Star Wars'.

[ghostsofgiants]

6. Finding Nemo?

Finding Nemo was pretty good, but top 100 of all time?!

Some good stuff there though.

[KitchenWitch]

8. I would say it is one of the best animated feature films

whether it should crack the top 100 is debatable...

[ghostsofgiants]

11. As far as animated features go...

I think Spirited Away is much better than Finding Nemo.

[maveric]

9. Where's Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein?

You've gotta be shittin me!

[KitchenWitch]

10. Abby .... Normal

[maveric]

16. "I Aint got no Body..."

[Withywindle]

12. Some of those picks are weird...

but I can forgive a LOT for including Wings of Desire. :thumbsup:

[jobycom]

23. God I hated that film

I would probably have rathered lose a limb than having to watch that rambling, pretentious tripe. Made me long for Nicolas Cage and Meg Ryan, and NOTHING has ever made me long for Meg Ryan before.

But hey, that's just me.

[Withywindle]

51. Heh!

I see downthread you hated Lord of the Rings too. We definitely should not ever try to rent films for an evening together.


What do you like?

[jobycom]

52. I like

films that care more about the story than the director's ego, I guess. Wings had some beautiful moments, and I loved the storyline, but there was no story. It was like one long poetry reading with images. The images were nice, and sometimes the poetry was nice--and sometimes it was pompous and pretentious--but there was no movie in it. For me.

LOTR was just so full of bad directing and melodramatic poses and cliches that I couldn't focus on the story. Every scene was a cliche--zooming cameras on faces looking over their shoulders with concern, or knowing, sad smiles at another character's bravery, or running feet stamping on logs to show an enemy rushing hidden through the forest. It was directed with a sledgehammer. I tried really, really hard to like it, but I just couldn't.

And his scene choice was baffling. He didn't seem to be picking out a narrative, he just threw in scenes from the book he seemed to like. It went on too long, when he could have found a more direct narrative.

I guess that's what I hated about both--not enough narrative, too much pretentious meandering. (That probably makes no sense to anyone, but it's the best I can do.)

I like movies that do something. Amadeus, The Unforgiven (which made their list), Princess Bride, Big Lebowski. I liked City of Angels, except Meg Ryan's corny death scene. I loved the way it ended, though. I like creative directing--Baz Lurhman, or the Cohens or Tim Burton. I even like plain old straightforward stories. I just don't like seeing a director who thinks he's more clever than he is.

[Withywindle]

54. No, that makes sense

...I guess I don't mind a bit of heavyhandedness if it's visually striking or beautiful enough. I like long rambly books too (in the case of LOTR, I grew up with those so I'm very aware of how much Jackson CUT, more than of what he left in. Like the scenes at the river I took my username from. :D)

Haven't seen City of Angels. I hate gratuitous Americanizing remakes of foreign films, even if they're pretty good on their own merits. And a good part of what I love about WoD is the portrait of Berlin, a city I've only been to once and would love to see again.

[jobycom]

58. I can see that, about Berlin

I liked the imagery of the walled Berlin, the poverty, the art and music of the city. I loved the Peter Falk scenes as they were casting for the film. SOme of the Homer stuff was inteesting, too. That's the main reason I watched it until the end. Well, that and Solveig Dommartin. But all that "The child was the child before there was a child that could be the child that thought it was a child of a child watching a child think about being something like a child..." I just felt like they thought they were more clever than they were.

The Nicolas Cage film kept the essence but used scene, plot and words, rather than just words, to convey its message--thus it was more watchable to me. Even with Meg Ryan.

[MrScorpio]

13. No 2001: A Space Odyssey?!?

You've got to be kidding

[Robeson]

14. That alone, discredits this list....

...in fact, it makes is farcical.

[SmileyBoy]

19. No Ben Hur either.

(crap)

[Hissyspit]

27. You're right, that's ridiculous. n/t

[Crazy Guggenheim]

15. What happened to Caligula? Ya gotta put that into every movie

thread. lol.

[zann725]

17. Didn't "Time" just put Coulter on the cover? How does THAT qualify them

to judge anything...let alone the 'best films of all time.'

[SmileyBoy]

18. Why in the FUCK is "Finding Nemo" on that list??

Please tell me why.

[jobycom]

21. Cause it's better than at least half of what is on the list

Weird list. More of a random sampling of top films in every genre or style than actual greatest films.

Drunken Master II? I love Jackie Chan, but that was better than Amadeus? No way.

As for Finding Nemo, it's at least one of the best, and probably the best, example of computer generated animation, with a good script, one of the best voice-acting performances ever (Ellen), and it sold a ton of tickets. That's what I mean, I don't know that I'd put it as one of the top 100 films (I might, though), but I think their point is that it is the best example of that type of film.

[Richard Steele]

56. If they REALLY NEEDED to include some ChopSockey....

..."Iron Monkey" was far superior to DM2.

And NEITHER was better than Amadeus!

I agree with your assesment:
"More of a random sampling of top films in every genre or style than actual greatest films."

[Abelman]

20. WTF?

This list sucks. Some good movies, but a lot of them don't belong on a top 100 list.

[jobycom]

22. WIngs of Desire and LOTR--- fourteen of the worst hours of my life

Why do you mock me, Time Magazine? Why?

Though Solveig Dommartin wasn't so bad to watch.

[6000eliot]

24. Not bad as these things go

I think they could have included more comedy.

[saracat]

25. No "Gone With The Wind", or "Dr.Zhivago?"

What about "French Connection? Weird list.

[Sugar Smack]

34. No "Gone With the Wind"- I don't get that list either.

[Vektor]

26. No Shawshank Redemption? Those fuckers!

Best movie I've ever seen.

[Fuzz]

33. Agreed. Was gonna make the same point.

A top 20 list without that movie isn't worth squat, much less a top 100.

[illbill]

28. They missed so many movies...

Casino to name one. Dazed and Confuzed to name another. Ferris Bueller's Day Off.... all the classics missed.

[Art_from_Ark]

29. Where's Monty Python and the Holy Grail?????????

The funniest damn movie of all time, and it's not on the freakin' list.

Two :thumbsdown::thumbsdown: for this list!

Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffft

[Deja Q]

30. From what criteria - box office receipts?! And given their idols...

They also have a fetish for * and Mann Coulter, so I ain't surprised by the list...

I think they just took movies that had big box office receipts.

"Star Wars" must have made it ONLY because of the special effects; the plot is thin and the acting often dreadful.

Why the 1986 remake of "The Fly"?

"Sunset Boulevard" isn't on the list but deserves to be.

Odd how "It's a Wonderful Life" is mentioned yet "The Wizard of Oz" ism't... especially when "Star Wars" was.

None of the movies appears to be a comedy. That's a joke.

Anybody else find Nemo yet?

[sleipnir]

32. I disagree with the "strange' angle

Many of these films are obscure or forgotten, not strange, IMO. Your average citizen has probably only seen 1/4 of these films, but that does not make them poor choices. Rather, I applaud these two critics for placing hard to find films and others that might be lost over time.

The list reads like a weekly schedule on the old "Z Channel." Which I greatly appreciate.

My "shocked" moment was that Time Mag only put 6 movies from the last 10 years (yes, they have 3 films from '94, but that's 11 years ago.) Their list seems to be centered around the 70's and 40's. Not bad years for film, and I like the inclusion of foreign films and obscure but great movies. A lot of people here seemed to have been spoiled with AFI's lists, that being only American films, had a decent amount of crap to make it to 100.

The Decalogue, being a Polish TV mini-series was a shock, but certainly is one of the best ever.

Miller's Crossing, best "Art" film the Coens' have done, to date.

[DelawareValleyDem]

35. Should have included

The Bridge on the River Kwai and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. On the plus side, they did include A Hard Day's Night and wisely left off the overrated Silence of the Lambs.

[Deep13]

36. Where's Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers?!

:shrug:

[Lannes]

37. No Bicycle thief???

But the fly remake gets in?

[Lannes]

38. Purple Rose of Cairo

Over Manhattan or Annie Hall? what were they smoking?

[DS1]

39. I'm glad they have so little news in the world to cover

[MrScorpio]

40. High Noon is missing

High Freakin' Noon

The Fifth Element is no where to be found.

No Le Femme Nikita or The Professional... They're Dissing Luc Besson big time.

No Sunset Boulevard or NETWORK!!!! NO NETWORK!!!

No French Connection

No FULL METAL JACKET


MOST of All NO APOCALYPSE NOW

The list is TOO wack

[Lannes]

42. The Seven Samurai doesnt make it

But Finding Nemo does??? What about "Vertigo" or Cocteau's "Beauty and the Beast"? They probably would have picked the disney version over it.

[Shell Beau]

41. I didn't

see The Color Purple on the list. That was a very moving film. Some of those on the list could be replaced by real movies. Jeez!

[peekaloo]

43. lol....Drunken Master ll........

well at least they put an overlooked Coen Bros. 'Miller's Crossing' on that "list'.

[Melynn]

46. I'm glad that they put 'Miller's Crossing' on this list

but as another poster pointed out, no 'Apocalypse Now' which baffles me. Plus, no 'Fargo' or 'The Usual Suspects' two great films from the 90's.

[Dukkha]

44. very weak list

While Finding Nemo is a good movie, There's so many better Disney films to choose from, like Snow White, Cinderella, or Fantasia.

The horror genre got looked over a lot. No Exorcist, Jaws, Silence of the Lambs, Nosferatu, Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, Dracula.

A surprising absence of war movies too. No Apocalypse Now, Bridge on the River Kwai, Saving Private Ryan, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Deer Hunter, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, Hamburger Hill.

[gollygee]

45. Where's Dr. Zhivago?

otherwise, they've got my favorites.

[lpbk2713]

47. Bogus list ..... Didn't *Time* make Shit-for-Brains Man of the Year?

What do you expect from such a collection of assholes?

No High Noon ... No The Longest Day ... No Bridge on the River Kwai.

[northzax]

48. as of this post

I have counted 57 movies that DUers are complaining were missed.

Look, people, it's a top 100, something's gonna miss, and I'm unclear on the methodology, or what they were looking for. Frankly, every single movie here belongs here, they either created, revolutionised or aerved as the apex of a genre.

[lpbk2713]

49. High Noon is widely considered the first "adult western"

and yet no mention. Not to mention the performances of two cinematic legends Cooper and Kelly. Go figure.

[kodi]

50. comparing Time's list versus the AFI's shows pop culture versus culture

and it ain't purdy

http://www.afi.com/tvevents/100years/movies.aspx

[MrScorpio]

59. Now the AFI's list is one that I can agree with

Time's list is total bullshit

[quaoar]

53. 'Barry Lyndon'

Sorry, but it sucked.

[LynneSin]

55. I question any top 100 movie list that doesn't include "Road House"

[Deep13]

57. Hardly any horror films.

These movie snob critics have always been biased against them.