Kirstie Alley's weight loss program: Why J. Craig and NOT Scientology?

[Atlas Mugged]

Has this been addressed before? Wouldn't the CoS have more to gain over Alley's loss than Jenny Craig? People would be quitting gyms and diets in droves if all they had to do was join the CoS and shed pounds the easy way - which would more than likely be starvation due to the high overhead of joining.

But, seriously, since Alley claims that Scientology got her off cocaine and other substances, as well as many other soft "miracles", wouldn't weight control be a major marketing angle for them? Unless, they're full of shit to begin with, of course.

[tjdee]

1. Scientology wouldn't pay her?

Good question, though.

I think it was the weight thing plus the career move/money for Kirstie.

Surely her "church" wouldn't want her to miss out on something beneficial for her career!

Maybe we should ask Tom Cruise.

[KitchenWitch]

2. Unless, they're full of shit to begin with

Bingo

[mcscajun]

3. You raise a very interesting question.

And you're last sentence is probably the answer.

Now that's my smart-assed comment.

Seriously, though, Somebody in the press could raise this with Tom Cruise next time he's being weird and mouthing off about Scientology. It would be fascinating to watch his mouth move, much like a fish gasping for air.

OTOH, the money she's making from doing the ads probably does, at least in part, flow back into Scientology's coffers, so there's that to consider.

[Heidi]

5. Actually, someone should ask Mr. Cruise,

next time he says there's no science behind psychiatry and advocates that psychiatry be outlawed:

"That's an interesting point, Mr. Cruise. Could you explain to me the 'science' behind Scientology? Also, while we're on the topic of science, could you provide me with clinical studies supporting Scientology as a means of alleviating and curing mental illness?"

[mcscajun]

8. Nooooooo....That's the question he wants. The first one, anyway.

That's the Scientologist's stock-in-trade.

It's the Second question I'm not sure of...they probably have 'clinical studies' bought and paid for.

[Heidi]

10. Yeah, but I want to hear him say it.

I want to hear him explain the science.

[jmm]

4. I can't believe I'm about to defend Scientology but

I read an article a while back claiming that it gives its followers self confidence so people like her and John Travolta at their heaviest points could still pursue careers and be happy with their bodies.

Of course that doesn't explain why any Scientologist would ever go on a diet unless of course the only part of you they care about lightening is your wallet so they wouldn't want to alienate followers by pushing them into a diet.

[Orsino]

7. Self-confidence is not necessarily a good thing.

Look what it did for *. Self-doubt is healthy, to a certain extent.

While I'm certain that Scientology has been beneficial to a few, I'm not sure that any other hobby couldn't have been just as efficacious. Scientology is bunk, but as a philosophy it seems rather harmless. It's the Church itself that I see as responsible for all the misery.

[AngryAmish]

6. She is filled with millions of thetans

or pizzas.

[mcscajun]

9. Please, let's not take this off in a fat-bashing direction.

tyvm.

[Mr.Green93]

11. and NOT Scientology?

Maybe because she is nearly broke and Scientology is pay to play?

[warrior1]

12. So what is Sciencetology?

Just another cult for weak minded people with a lot of loose cash laying about?

[Mr.Green93]

13. It is best

not to talk about them. They have a lot of power and a long reach.

[kikiek]

16. That is exactly why you talk about them just like this administration.

[kikiek]

15. I think they have a lot in common with the neo cons. I wrote a paper

in college about how they not only have survived this long as a cult, but thrived. Pretty amazing when you look at how long L Ron Hubbard has been dead. They basically reel em in and keep them in through blackmail and threats. The celebrities are used to entice people in and make Scientology appear respectable. They are into public schools and just about everything you can imagine through "foundations" they fund. They have been waging a war on psychiatry for years. Whenever I read a story about how some antidepressant pill caused something I wonder the real source. (They have people in every faucet of society working for them just like the Christian Right.) The average people owes so much money trying to become "clear" that they end up working just to pay their debt. There have been many documentated cases of deaths and harassments. LA Times wrote a very interesting piece on it I think in the 80's. Also a book was written I think it was called A Piece of Blue Sky. Kind of a dry book though. Very interesting stuff, but very chilling too. I think the Right Wing think tanks, Neo Cons, and Christian Right took a few pages from the operations book of the Scientologists. Interesting link comparing them to 1984 http://www.xenu.net/archive/1984/

[Mr.Green93]

17. Thanks for the link

[Atlas Mugged]

18. But she's a STAR

I would think her celebrity is worth more to them than her annual dues.

Quite frankly, I don't think somebody in the PR department of Clamsville was smart to miss a good opportunity. They could've created a whole new line of products, just as useless as the others glutting the weight loss industry, and slapped her smiling face on them.

[hyphenate]

14. Because she's getting paid

to endorse Jenny Craig. I doubt if Scientology would pay her to lose weight.