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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:39 AM
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So why aren't the Stones singing songs about THEIR Yankee Poodle
I mean Tony Blair is just as guilty and the Rolling Stones are English?
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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:44 AM
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1. Keith Richards is an American citizen
Has been for many, many years.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:44 AM
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2. Yeah, but it was Bush that got Tony on board the train.
If we had a non-stolen election in 2000 and Gore was President, the Stones wouldn't have had to write this song, even with Tony in office.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:15 AM
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3. Yes, let's attack the Stones for attacking Bush - How dare they!




(sorry I am in a cranky mood today)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:21 AM
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5. Yes but I question why the Stones are doing this...
...unless it's because they know their career has pretty much been in the toilet for the last 20+ years, they haven't put a decent album out since "Some Girls" and they know the music rage in the States is Bush bashing.

They're jumping on the bandwagon trying to make one final grasp for breath before they drown in their own overexposure. Stones have not been significant to me for decades because they're still putting out music even though it's extremely substandard compared to their earlier works. Bands like Green Day, Audio Slave, Nine Inch Nails, etc are making a killing off Bush Bashing so now the Stones turn in their innovator badges and become copycats.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:26 AM
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6. Ok maybe they can attack Democrats instead -- that is popular too
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 07:33 AM by emulatorloo
And Rush could promote it on air.

Would that make you happy?

(sorry I know shouldnt take my anger right now at self-defeating dems out on you (i know you are not one of those). . .I get your point, I know you are a good person, but I am tired (lack of sleep) and kinda got disgusted over in GD)

:hi:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:39 AM
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9. Maybe Stones are just a giant size sellout and I'm not buying their crap
Stones make me sometimes grateful that John Bonham died when he did so that Led Zeppelin's career ended on a high night instead of them fading to obscurity by putting out crapola albums year after year just for the sake of one last final fling. My only regret was I never got to see Led Zeppelin in concert and yet I wasted $50 on the 1989 STones concert where personally I though the opening act rocked more than the Stones (I thinkit was Living Colour)
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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:49 AM
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10. As has been pointed out numerous times
The Stones released a vehemently anti Poppy Bush/Gulf War song in 1991, called 'Highwire'. So, Green Day, Audio Slave and Nine Inch Nails, some of whom existed back then must've copied someone, since by your logic, no one has an original idea.

Personally, I love all the Stones releases up to 'Some Girls' and after. The only release of their's I have yet to bother with is 'Black & Blue'. So, what was wrong with 'Tattoo You', anyway?

As a fan of the Stones I'm told repeatedly on this board that my taste in music in worthless. However, say one negative thing about Paul McCartney........

BTW, the opening act for the Stones in '89 that you saw, Living Colour, was managed and produced by Mick Jagger.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:41 AM
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12. I guess you haven't heard anything from the new Stones album?
The music speaks for itself on this one. It's easily their best album since Some Girls from what I've heard so far. And the Stones were making political statements when the guys in Audioslave were in their diapers.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:46 AM
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15. Check Matcom's thread about how they're raising money for Ahr-nuld
They wrote the song to try and make money off of those of us who try and support the anti-war crowd and then they're do a massive fundraiser for the Gropenator.

They can fuck off for all I care. I'm not such a dumbass that I'll buy an album from a bunch of aging old farts who haven't done anything significant for DECADES and now they want to make money by singing an anti-bush song. ANd yet they'll fund raise for Ahr-nuld.

I don't think so - fuck off! I'm a fan of the classic rock greats but never ever them. Try to be who you are instead of being so desparate that you'll mimic others!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:44 AM
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13. Right. The Stones are copying Green Day.
:eyes:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:47 AM
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16. Is Green Day doing a fundraiser for a repuke gov who stole an election?
I don't think so

Are the Stones? Yep!! See my thread below for the link

I stand justified!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:48 AM
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18. Stand wherever you want.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:49 AM
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19. Here're I'll make it easy for you - got $100k for a Stones fundraiser??
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/08/11/MNGVCE66GH1.DTL

Governor cashing in on Rolling Stones
For $100,000, you can watch concert with Schwarzenegger

Here's the ticket: a private evening rockin' the night away with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger during the kickoff of the Rolling Stones' "A Bigger Bang'' U.S. tour on Aug. 21 at Boston's Fenway Park.

Here's the bottom line: $10,000 a pop to get in on a private preconcert reception and front-and-center seats to watch the show -- or $100,000 to sit with the governor in his luxury box.

The eyebrow-raising event is one of a cluster of glitzy fundraisers the star-power governor will headline in the next few weeks as he seeks to arm his campaign fund with $50 million in preparation for the Nov. 8 special election -- which will determine the fate of his political agenda and, observers say, his chances for re-election in 2006.


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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:53 AM
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21. Yeah, OK.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:57 AM
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22. NO INVOLVEMENT FROM BAND - SEATS FROM AMERIQUEST
From article:

<snip>

No involvement from band

Fran Curtis, the longtime publicist for the Rolling Stones, said by telephone from Toronto -- where they're preparing for the tour's start -- that the band itself had no role in the matter. "We knew he was coming, but nothing else,'' she said.

<snip>
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:07 AM
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24. Then you know something - if Stones are so anti-Bush...
...say something about how they are against what Arh-nuld is doing. I mean, it still may not prevent them from hosting the fund raiser but at least the Stones will show they stand for something other than profit. Any other Band out there who has shown any inkling of anti-Bush sentimism would have spoken out (but then again repukes probably know better than to host it there)

I mean, geez, the freaking write a song called Sweet Neo-Con and it practically is an Anti-Bush song and already the Stones are coming out and saying it's not. Because now they don't want to alienate the repukes who still listen to them.

When you support both sides you end up standing for nothing which is exactly what the Stones are doing. They're trying to suck up to everyone and personally their music means nothing!
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:46 AM
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14. Thanks for the "Some Girls" props, LynneSin
It's the only Stones album I own. Sh'doobee!

Now: back to the topic....
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:48 AM
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17. It's the last Stones album I've owned
I have Let it Bleed and Hot Rocks too
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:18 AM
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4. Our guy is such an easy target
what with the stupidity and all ...
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:33 AM
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7. Because they are washed up and want attention
The fact is the Stones have been downhill since Brian Jones left the band and died
Now they are a bunch of rich old dinosaurs who charge hundreds of dollars for tickets. They figure if they make a mediocre bush bashing tune, suddenly the world will actually listen to their latest drivel.

I LOVE the old stones, even their really early shit when they were a wannabe Blues band. But they have been downhill since 1969.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:38 AM
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8. he said the song wasn't specifically about Bush

I guess it's about the whole lot of these cons.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:34 AM
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11. They hate Bush but they'll raise millions for the Gropenator
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/08/11/MNGVCE66GH1.DTL

That's it, I don't care what the stones sing, their anti-bush song is nothing more than an attempt to revive their faded careers by hoping us anti-war/bush supporters will buy their music because of one fricking song. If they're so anti-bush then why the hell are they raising money for that repuke asshole?

We cannot be so fricking desparate for bush-bashing celebs that we would support posers like the Rolling STones. Hell at least Rod Stewart was smart enough to start appealling to the EZ-Music listening crowd to keep his career going.

YOu're a bunch of 60 year old farts and your music sucks. Mick Jagger is nothing more than a seriel breeder who has knocked up how many women with kids? He's nothing more than pathetic!
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:51 AM
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20. Long post... I'll read it later.
I've got to go drive a front end loader over a stack
of Rolling Stone CDs.

Make album covers into dart boards...

etc.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:02 AM
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23. NO INVOLVEMENT FROM BAND - SEATS donate to arnie BY AMERIQUEST
same (somewhat poorly written) article

<snip>

No involvement from band

Fran Curtis, the longtime publicist for the Rolling Stones, said by telephone from Toronto -- where they're preparing for the tour's start -- that the band itself had no role in the matter. "We knew he was coming, but nothing else,'' she said.

<snip>
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:15 AM
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25. Probably because Bush started this war.
It was in all the papers.
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