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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:36 AM
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How much does it cost to have a hot H2O heater replaced?
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 11:38 AM by commander bunnypants
in a roundabout way

CB
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:37 AM
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1. Probably, more than a standard water heater...
I'd think.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:38 AM
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2. 300.00 to 500.00 ball park figure
depends on energy saving ability, whether gas or electric and gallon capacity.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:39 AM
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3. Ask eyesroll
;-)
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:43 AM
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4. We had ours replaced recently. It was the original, from way back in '78
I think it cost us between $700-800, with installation. After we started seeing black crud coming out of the bathtub faucet, we decided it was finally time to make that worthy investment in our home.

Good luck!
:hi:
Shine
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:50 AM
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7. *perk-a* *pop* *perk*
That's what our '72 water heater is sounding like.

It's only a matter of time.

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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:09 PM
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9. Yup, been there.
You've got one from '72?! Impressive.

:thumbsup:
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:43 PM
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15. '72?
put it out of it's misery. it served you well.:hi:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:00 PM
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19. But, my utility room will lose it's retro 70's look!
;)

I hear ya... :hi:
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:28 PM
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22. turn it into...
a monument and decorate it, disco style.:puke:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:58 PM
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18. The nice thing for you is
Any new heater will be so much more energy-efficient that you'll start recouping the replacement cost immediately.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:02 PM
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20. You're probably correct...
Also, adding nifty features like an anti-bang fixture to keep the
pipes from rattling is also appealing. ;)
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:45 AM
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5. why do you want to heat water that is already hot?
:silly:
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:48 AM
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6. do it yourself?
the cost of the unit- and some fittings- and alot of cursing-

We gave up on our 'on-demand' h2o heater, because we had to run the bathroom sink to get water warm enough to shower with- without screaming. The 'flow-rate' wasn't sufficent. We have alot of scale in our water- went for the most energy efficent lpg unit we could find, had to replace all pipes, with new ...plastic...(not copper-!!??) pipe
- BOCA Code- the unit cost 400- the pipe another 50 with fittings etc- but my GOD how good a real hot shower feels, and how easy washing the dishes is.

Nothing like having REAL hot water for a change.-
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:56 AM
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8. heck no
I dont mess with natural gas or electricity.


CB
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:11 PM
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10. don't blame you-
i especially hate electricity-
And natural gas is something i don't know-
But LPG (aka Propane) is something you can shut off right at the tank-
(we live 'out in the sticks literally)

Do you have any friends you could barter your skills for theirs with? It can really save you more than $ in the long run-

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:20 PM
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21. I believe you got took on the pipe
Water heaters are installed according to BOCA Mechanical Code M605.5. It states in no uncertain terms that all of the pipe connected to a water heater must be rated for the temperature of the system.

You are allowed to use galvanized steel, hard-drawn copper, CPVC (PVC is inadequate), polybutylene, PEX or XPA around a water heater. All those materials are rated for the temperature of a residential water heater.

CPVC = Chlorinated Polyvinyl Chloride
PEX = crosslinked Polyethylene
XPA = a composite pipe made by jacketing aluminum tubing with raised-temperature polyethylene on the inside and the outside of the aluminum

We use BOCA code here, and the mechanical inspectors are all happy to see hard-drawn copper connected to a water heater.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:11 PM
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11. about $400. It also depends on the size, how many gallons? Is the space
where it goes up to code? Is it on a stand already?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:12 PM
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12. Try and get an "endless" hot water heater
These thingy's heat water as needed and can created an unlimted suppy. It runs off electricity and could be much greener if you get your electricity through hydropower or nuclear.

I very much like the idea of never riunning out of hot water especially if there are teenagers afoot.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:37 PM
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14. We had one of those in the early 90s
It was a great idea and saved money when it worked. The bad thing was when it broke, we had one hell of a time finding someone to fix it. It was a simple problem with a gasket and a diaphragm, but we went without hot water for weeks until we found someone who knew what the problem was.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:35 PM
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13. How many gallons does it hold?
It's been a while since we replaced one, I think it was a 40 gallon and it cost around 300-400.
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:43 PM
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16. yup
40 gal

CB
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:55 PM
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17. It cost me nearly $3000, a couple weeks ago
but I had some special situations. I had flooding, which required pumping $$$. I had some piping not up to code $$$. The heater is in a scarcely accessible cellar, requiring 3 men to lower it down $$$. The new heater - even the smallest available - was bigger than the old, therefore the entrance hole to the cellar had to be enlarged and re-framed $$$. Most importantly, it had become something we needed done immediately, therefore I couldn't use a local, independent guy (which would have probably cut the price in less than half) because they are always booked for several days. I had to call the big, heavily advertised, rip-off plumber $$$$$.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:31 PM
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23. heaters range 300-600, then install
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freestyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:44 PM
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24. $500 for tank, around $1,000 for tankless.
The energy savings from the tankless heater will more than cover the difference. Also, they take up less space.
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Debbi801 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:05 PM
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25. Depends on what type of water heater it is (power-wise)...
Is it an electric water heater, or oil, or gas? I know an electric one is considerably less expensive. Our oil water heater went up a couple of years ago and it was about 2K to replace it.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:06 PM
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26. Home Depot national install price $175 plus the unit
Price includes delivery of the new unit, draining and removal (including removing it from your property) of the old unit, connecting the new one to the household plumbing and electric or gas system, purging the air out of it, installing a new drain pan, lighting a gas unit's pilot light, and testing it to be sure it heats water.

How to buy a tank-type water heater, the most common kind:

There are four things to look at.

First is capacity and dimensions. You need to know the dimensions of the unit you have so you don't get one that won't fit where you need to put it. You need to know the capacity so you don't get a smaller one. You probably want a larger one, but never go smaller. Most homes were built with a 40-gallon heater, so a 50-gallon is a nice upgrade. Also measure the door you need to take it through; if you have a 40-inch hole for the unit but a 32-inch door, that 35-inch water heater you're drooling over is completely out.

Second is fuel. Water heaters run on either gas or electricity. If you don't know which you have, go look at it. If there's a stovepipe sticking straight out the top of it, you have a gas unit. Normally you get one that uses the same fuel, but if you have gas heat and an electric water heater, call the gas company and ask them if there's a discount for running multiple gas appliances. Normally there is because the more units you have, the more gas you use. And they especially like gas water heaters because you heat water all the time; not even Siberians run their furnaces 365 days per year.

Third is configuration. There are manufactured home units (inlet and outlet on the side), standard, low-profile (short and squat), narrowline (tall and thin), and cabinet (looks like a washing machine). Manufactured home units are used in...well, trailers. The intent was to get the plumbing off the top of the unit so a cabinet could be installed above the water heater. If you're not working with a trailer you won't use one of these, and if you are working with a trailer, if you're willing to run a little pipe you can install a standard unit. I know it works fine because I've done it. Cabinet units were popular in the 1960s for installation in laundry rooms because they look like a third appliance, not a water heater, and you can stack stuff on top of them. These are really expensive and they're limited to 40 gallons capacity (nothing bigger fits in the cabinet), so we only sell them to people replacing worn-out cabinet units. Low-profile units are used mainly under stairs and in attics, and narrowline units are used when the architect added to the floor space for living in a small home by making the mechanical closet scrunchy. Which I've always hated: Let's say, just for the fuck of it, that your Temperature and Pressure Relief Valve pops. Plumbing the T&P R is a recent phenomenon; for most of its history people just pointed the T&P R at the back wall and called it good. Now let's say the water heater boils over and the T&P R pops. The room the unit is in will immediately fill with live steam. To get it to stop, you gotta cut off the power at the breaker, right? Well, guess where the breaker is. If you said "in the room that's currently full of live steam," you receive a GO at this station. Now understand: the National Fire Protection Association could solve this problem tomorrow by requiring that all residential breaker panels be mounted on the wall in the hallway and covered by either a print of CM Coolidge's "His Station and Four Aces" or a photo of George Bush (or a photo of an orangutan or a jackass, if you prefer his fresh-faced look). Not only would that clearly mark the location of the breaker box, it would vastly increase the sales of prints of dogs playing poker. So it's all good.

Okay, where were we? Oh yeah. Warranty. There are four warranties on water heaters: three-year, six-year, nine-year and twelve-year. Your three-year water heater has one 3600-watt element in it. It's vastly overworked, which is why this unit only has a three-year warranty. Don't get one of these. The six-year water heater usually has two 4500-watt elements. A nine-year heater has one 4500-watt element at the bottom and a 5400-watt element at the top, and a 12-year unit has two 5400-watt elements. This affects two specifications: first-hour temperature rise and recovery rate. First-hour rise is most important if you have the unit on a timer. If you work outside the home and put your water heater on a timer, take the first-hour temperature rise and use it to calculate the turnon time for the unit. If your unit has a 120-degree FHTR and you keep it set to 120 degrees, you should set the unit to come on an hour before you come home. That way, if the water got completely cold--it won't--it will be nice and warm when you walk in, because it won't take the whole hour to get it up to 120. Recovery rate is the number of gallons of water the unit can heat from 45 to 140 degrees in one hour. You will occasionally see a unit with a recovery rate of more gallons than the unit holds. If you do it'll be a 12-year heater. What this means is that the unit can take a whole tank of water from 45 (which is a common tap-water temp) to 140 in less than an hour. You're thinking "aren't they the same thing?" Well, no. First-hour rating is for people who regularly use all the water in the tank; recovery rate is for people who usually get out of the shower while the water's still hot.

There is a device in your water heater called the sacrificial anode. It's a magnesium rod that corrodes so your water heater doesn't have to. 12-year units will have two.

Price? A 6-year, 40-gallon unit is $189 IIRC. A 6-year, 50-gallon unit, which is the most popular water heater in America, is $219. Twelve-year units can run as much as $400. (Don't ask me about commercial water heaters. They are REALLY expensive.)
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:35 PM
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27. wow thnks
really mean thanks
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:37 PM
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28. 'bout $300 + dollars.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:38 PM
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29. mine was about $900...$600 for the unit and the rest for
bringing my intallation up to code, because it is a natural gas unit. (mine had also been in place for a long time)

I had urgent need to get it done so couldn't shop around like I would have if it were a planned thing.

I also upped my capacity an extra 10 gallons.

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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:40 PM
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30. Just had one put in last week
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 11:41 PM by seemunkee
Heater, install, and removal of the old one came to a little over $600. 50 gallon tank through Sears
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 12:28 AM
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31. I have never understood
why someone would want a Hot Water Heater. Why would you heat water that is already hot. Is it not hot enough for you?

Now I have a water heater to heat the water that comes from my well. When it comes out of the ground it is pretty cold, and needs to be heated for some purposes, such as bathing. If it came out of the ground hot, then I wouldn't have to heat it.

:shrug:
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