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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:33 PM
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Travolta: No autism treatment for 14 Y.O. son (involves psychiatric care)
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 04:34 PM by Bush_Eats_Beef
PLEASE NOTE: Everything below comes from the W.W.T.D.D. Web Site...all documentation / opinion / etc belongs to its author. I'm not endorsing it or challenging it, I'm copying and pasting it. Their source is HollywoodInterrupted.com (http://www.hollywoodinterrupted.com/archives/a_plea_from_hollywood_john_travolta_open_your_heart.phtml) and I MUST WARN YOU...that link includes morgue photos of the late Lisa McPherson (infamously held in seclusion by Scientologists, denied external medical care, and she died in their "custody.")

Caveat Emptor. Cheers.


:toast:

http://www.wwtdd.com/index.php?type=one&i=822

Jett Travolta, the 14 year old son of John Travolta and Kelly Preston is being raised under the strict guidelines of Scientology, despite the fact that the teachings prevent him from getting the care he needs to treat what appears to be autism. The Travolta's have blamed Jett's ill health in the past on Kawasaki syndrome, a disease I'm pretty sure they made up just now. They say it was caused by "environmental toxins", but that Jett was mostly-kinda "cured" after a detox regimen dictated by the writings of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, even though Jett still has all the same symptoms he had before.

But HollywoodInterrupted.com says that Jett clearly has autism, a conclusion shared by experts on the disease including executives from the Autism Society of America and Cure Autism Now. The Travolta's may be hesitant to admit Jett's disease because treatment would involve psychiatric care, a form of medicine strictly prohibited by Scientology.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:36 PM
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1. From the CDC
Kawasaki syndrome (KS) is an acute febrile illness of unknown etiology that primarily affects children younger than 5 years of age. KS was first described in Japan by Tomisaku Kawasaki in 1967, and the first cases outside of Japan were reported in Hawaii in 1976.

KS is characterized by fever, rash, swelling of the hands and feet, irritation and redness of the whites of the eyes, swollen lymph glands in the neck, and irritation and inflammation of the mouth, lips, and throat. Serious complications of KS include coronary artery dilatations and aneurysms, and KS is a leading cause of acquired heart disease in the United States. The standard treatment with intravenous immunoglobulin and aspirin substantially decreases the development of these coronary artery abnormalities.

KS occurs worldwide, with the highest incidence in Japan, and it most often affects boys and younger children. KS may have a winter-spring seasonality, and community-wide outbreaks have been reported occasionally. In the continental United States, population-based and hospitalization studies have estimated an incidence of KS ranging from 9 to 19 per 100,000 children younger than 5 years of age. Approximately 4248 hospitalizations for KS, of which 3277 (77%) were for children under 5 years of age, were estimated among children younger than 18 years of age in the United States in the year 2000.


http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/kawasaki/index.htm
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:41 PM
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2. I was just going to say: I know Kawasaki
is real because they talked about it on House last night ... you, however, provided a much better answer! :-D
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:45 PM
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3. House- I like that show but...
...it is just getting sort of repetive: Patient has some kind of "attack," is admitted and they keep trying different treatments, tests, treatments, tests, etc until they get the right one.

I liked it better when his ex-wife was on and there was other personal issues that they dealt with.
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 11:16 PM
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18. I just got into it this season
... saving up money for the first season DVDs! I'm not minding the repetitivenss so far--I need my medical show fix after ER went down the tubes!
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:18 PM
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5. Kawasaki is real, but it doesn't sound like what Travolta's kid has.
Not that I'm trying to diagnose anything from afar (I leave that to Bill Frist) but the symptoms of the two (Kawasaki v. autism) don't even sound similar. Who knows, it could be something else altogether but it's very sad to see a child not getting the help he needs.

I also want to note that I'm not a big advocate for conventional medicine. I am very wary of doctors who want to push pharmaceuticals on every patient that walks through the door. But I know from experience (with a sister who was a Scientologist) that a lot of that "religion" is completely bogus. So I doubt it's helping that child very much.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:03 PM
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4. WWTDD must be getting Theta-ed. Commenting has been pulled.
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 05:03 PM by blondeatlast
I call what Travolta is NOT doing neglect and perhaps it's time for the authorities to see it that way too--and make an example out of Mr. Travolta.

And Ms. Preston is an enabler if she isn't actively trying to get her son the proper care.

As a mom, I can only say that if my husband forbid me to seek the proper care for my child I'd get my kid and I the hell out and charge the bastard for neglect.

I feel it necessary to explain that the above is a hypothetical situation; my husband would move heaven and earth to get our son any care he might require.




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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:19 PM
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6. They are both crazy scientologists
They were put together by the church when people started talking about John Travolta's...preferances back in the late 80's, early 90's.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:35 AM
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21. (aside, off topic)'Isn't your sig line out of date blondeatlast?
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 02:37 AM by Random_Australian
I thought the debt had passed $9,000,000,000,000...... (Read: $8,300,000,000,000 was yesterday)

Edit: I had to add more zeros. F*ck me that's a lot of them!
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:37 PM
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7. Poor kid
Maybe he just shut down because his parents are fucked up. How would anybody know what his condition is if his parents keep him only in their world? I don't know enough about scientology to know about day to day living, but if it's as weird and controlling as some of the more publicized stuff (silent births, no psych meds) it would really mess with a child's mind. Then add all that movie star crap that can get so strange...
And if he has autism, jesus I just don't know what to say except it sounds like child neglect, if not abuse.
This just makes me sad.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:11 PM
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8. Why does all that remind me of the Star Trek episode 'The Way to Eden'?
Bunch of selfish space hippies, who have turned against their technological world and claim that technology is what made them ill, do what they want regardless of how badly it impacts others just to get to a paradise where they claim to love and be nice to each other (which seems the opposite of their actions to date)...

Technology has saved countless lives.

It's how it's used that makes technology good or bad. Not just the fact it exists.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:56 PM
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11. Was that the one where Wesley Crusher was sentenced to death?
Or am I totally off and it wasn't even a TNG episode?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:59 PM
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12. No, you speak of a TNG episode:

"Justice" - what started as a good idea was perverted by the production team into a clothing-optional plot of people whose one law is that if you break a law you're put to death. So all the people do is run around half-nekkid and kiss and screw. (typical 1987 garbage... devoid of any intelligence or theme worth saying because of how it was produced.)
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:03 PM
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14. Ah, thanks
Yes, the first season and a half of TNG sucked all ass. Maybe even all of the first two seasons, thought the one where Data's sentience was on trial was pretty cool.

Yeah, that episode in question was horrible, though I applaud your instant Trek recall. :D
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:22 PM
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9. WWJTD? Now we know!
:evilgrin:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:43 PM
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10. Blah blah blah -- Kelly Preston is always on TV pushing
this kind of stuff... drives me crazy. Are kids over medicated today? Hell yeah? But.... do kids need some care for certain things??? HELL YEAH.
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YouthInAsia Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:01 PM
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13. scientology, I believe, is a mental disorder
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:03 PM
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15. Man, there are some fucked up sig lines lately.
Scary shit.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:15 PM
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16. I think Scientology could prove that asshole Bruno Bettelheim correct:
Bettelheim said autism was caused by uncaring, cold, distant mothers. We know that is total bullshit. But if Scientology mothers have to ignore the cries of their babies, then I can't be too surprised that a kid might regress into himself and not seek interpersonal reactions.


I know, I'm being extreme. But I have to wonder if some of the boy's problems are caused and perpetuated by his family's belief system.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 11:01 PM
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17. there's no treatment for autism
first do no harm

we have no suggestion that could help this boy so i personally think we should stfu

admittedly i'm dx'd in the high functioning autism camp but i'm glad i did not receive "treatment," there is no treatment that works, so second-guessing the parents and victim is pretty harsh dude
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:49 AM
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19. he must have consulted tom cruise
that eminent psychiatrist.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:26 AM
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20. While psychotropic medications are sometimes prescribed to
people with autism to address certain behaviors such as hyperactivity, this is not always the case. Psychiatric interventions are rarely, if ever, the primary facet of treatment for an individual with autism because:

Right now, there are no medications that seem to directly improve the core signs of autism. Your doctor likely won't prescribe medication for your child unless your child's behavior is potentially dangerous or it interferes with his or her ability to participate in educational programs.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/autism/DS00348/DSECTION=6


The standard approaches are behavioral modification, speech therapy, social skills training, sensory integration and similar interventions. Some parents also choose special diets and vitamin supplements (Vitamin B6 therapy is reputed by many to be effective). This should be especially popular with the Scientologists.

Therefore Jett can get plenty of assistance for Autism, if he indeed has it, without resorting to Psychiatry.
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