Do you live in one of the top 25 most dangerous cities in the US?

[Phillycat]

I can't believe St Louis is number one! And I can't believe we (Philly) didn't make it! (Although Camden, NJ is right across the bridge.)

1. St. Louis
2. Detroit
3. Flint, Mich.
4. Compton, Calif.
5. Camden, N.J.
6. Birmingham, Ala.
7. Cleveland
8. Oakland, Calif.
9. Youngstown, Ohio
10. Gary, Ind.
11. Richmond, Calif.
12. Baltimore
13. Memphis, Tenn.
14. Trenton, N.J.
15. Richmond, Va.
16. Kansas City, Mo.
17. Atlanta
18. Cincinnati
19. Washington
20. North Charleston, S.C.
21. Reading, Pa.
22. Newark, N.J.
23. Little Rock, Ark.
24. San Bernardino, Calif.
25. Orlando, Fla.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15475741/?GT1=8718

[AngryAmish]

1. No, I'm from Chicago

(actually the FBI doesn't trust our statistics so we are not included)

on edit, people gave me grief for calling Detroit "Murder CIty". Well I guess both entrants in the World Series deserve that name.

[ScreamingMeemie]

3. I guess not. I'm still not murdered.

thank you.

[billyskank]

8. Yay!

:D

[Susang]

34. I lived in Detroit most my life and I'm still alive

I even visit there on a regular basis <gasp> and manage to make it out alive. ! :wow:

[Radio_Lady]

84. I guess some people are able to survive there.

:sarcasm:

[Maine-ah]

2. um , nothing in New England makes the list.

I think I'm safe.

[LynneSin]

9. WIMPS

:rofl:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

17. So says the one in the "fake" state of Delaware.

:eyes:

[LynneSin]

21. FAKE MY ASS BE-YOTCH!!!

You love me and you know it

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

25. Yeah, I do...

even if your state is fake.

[LynneSin]

32. You're just jealous cause our state doesn't smell like yours

:loveya:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

33. Whatever. I live in the part that doesn't smell.

:loveya:

[LynneSin]

35. Perhaps you're just use to the smell from living there for so long

:shrug:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

38. Nah, I still notice the smell when I go to Secaucus (my birthplace), Elizabeth, etc.

You know, all the industrial wasteland parts.

[kwassa]

55. Exit 13 on the Jersey Turnpike.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

56. Yeah, I live off exit 37 on Route 80. It's a non-smelly exit.

[JVS]

57. Delaware=Glorified toll both

[Maine-ah]

49. roflmao!

Damn right, but I can still walk around after dark and not worry that someone is going to kill me....:hi:

[Zomby Woof]

12. It's too cold to commit any crimes!

:P

[Maine-ah]

53. yep, we're all up here makin' luv, not war...

it's the only way to stay warm in the winters! :loveya:

[KitchenWitch]

4. No!

But I live in the seventh safest city in the US.

[flvegan]

5. Might want to peep the methodology, here...

http://www.morganquitno.com/methodology07.htm#Method

[Phillycat]

14. New Orleans and Chicago missing

That's a bit bogus.

[KamaAina]

52. New Orleans crime is down from historic levels since Katrina

Up through about April of this year, the city was downright safe, for those few who had managed to resettle. Since then, there has indeed been an upsurge in crime, to the consternation of those who view a safer city as one with a better chance at recovery -- but apparently it hasn't been enough to get N.O. back on those kind of lists. Let's hope it stays that way!

[Susang]

41. Chicago would be 52nd in their separate ranking

Designed specifically to include us. If you read down to end of the third paragraph in that section, you will see that cited.

They could not include rape because Chicago also includes ALL forms of sexual assault, not just female rape, in their crime statistics. Because of that, the ranking would be unfairly skewed against them.

[Pithlet]

6. I live in one of them

And was born and raised in another. Sigh.

[billyskank]

7. No, I don't

;)

[bif]

10. We're #2. We try harder!

[sakabatou]

11. Nope

[kwassa]

13. Is there a correlation between being in the World Series, and being dangerous?

Look at #1 and #2.

I was born in #2.

[AllegroRondo]

28. Well, St Louis didnt burn the city down when they won.

[kwassa]

37. Wimps

[flamingyouth]

15. No. Seattle is not on that list.

[Zomby Woof]

24. Ballard tends to keep the stats down

;-)

[LoZoccolo]

16. Surprisingly, no!

I thought for sure Chicago was going to be on the list; when I clicked your thread it was just to check if it was #2 or #3 or something.

[Phillycat]

19. Check flvegan's post above

Chicago is excluded because of some SNAFU with their rape numbers, according to the FBI.

[Susang]

44. Not a snafu exactly

We report all sexual assaults as opposed to just female rapes. The FBI standard is female rape only, we include male rape and other sexual crime. Because of that, Chicago would have more incidents of overall rapes reported than any other city in the survey.

Take the rape statistics away and Chicago came out as the 52nd most dangerous city.

[johnnie]

18. Number 7

It's only dangerous if you get into danger though.

[Phillycat]

22. I cannot believe Cleveland is more dangerous than Philly.

:wow:

[johnnie]

26. Cleveland has gotten worse

It was ok here for a little while, but has gotten more dangerous in recent years.

Truthfully though, if you want to hear about when Cleveland would have been closer to top on that list was back in the 20s and 30s when it was a mob town. Cleveland has a really interesting past.

[fudge stripe cookays]

66. And when....

they found all them torsos! :scared:

[GalleryGod]

61. I'm getting the distinct impression you're a transplant to Philadelphia.

Two snarks about Philly and a side dish to Camden.

[anarch]

20. I, too, find it hard to believe that Richmond, VA or Cleveland,

just to pick two that are on the list, are more dangerous than Philly. Shit, I live in DC and I still feel safer at home than I do walking around in parts of Philadelphia at night.

[Phillycat]

23. Well, I don't know

DC has some parts I wouldn't visit at any time of the day...but Philly is certainly dangerous. Kind of a weird list, eh?

[Ekirh]

46. Damn . .

Richmond dropped from the last I checked. It use to be number five. . .

WE'RE LESS DANGEROUS NOW WE'RE LESS DANGEROUS NOW

Wait I live in Petersburg.. a good 40 minutes away..

Just for the record not once have I ever not felt safe in Richmond though... Then again I usually know where to walk.

[GalleryGod]

63. It begs the question, then, WHY are you "walking around (those dreaded) parts of Philly"

at night:rofl: ?

[AllegroRondo]

27. We're number 1! Another thing to beat Detroit at!

Although there has been some discussion of that in the St Louis news. Apparantly, this survey only takes into account St Louis City, not the county or suburbs. Because of the way the city/county are incorporated as separate counties, the city cannot annex land or expand. If the city were allowed to annex land like most other cities, the numbers would be a lot lower.

[xmas74]

39. Now if they took the burbs into account for KC

I bet it would be higher on the list.

[RazzleCat]

83. Yep, #1

Only I live in the inner ring burbs of St. Louis. And yeah we got the prize because of the annexation of the City/County.

[RebelOne]

29. I live just northwest of No. 17. n/t

[China_cat]

30. North Charleston, SC

What can anyone expect where the cops are paid less than the convenience store part time workers?

[Gormy Cuss]

31. No, but I live near two -- # 8 and #11

Richmond, CA is a sad place. Oaktown has a lot going for it in spite of its rating.

[xmas74]

36. Can't believe KC is only 16.

Seems like it should be higher.

[cautiouslywaiting]

40. I do

I'm surprised DC is only 19. I would've thought we'd be higher.

[Reverend_Smitty]

42. Born and raised in #14

Does that give me more street cred?

[kwassa]

43. no New York or Los Angeles or San Francisco or Boston or Miami

[Zomby Woof]

45. Compton is in the L.A. metro area

But it seems, on the whole, we're safer than not.

[huskerlaw]

47. Yeah, but

everyone knows to avoid that area. L.A. in general isn't that dangerous.

[Zomby Woof]

48. That's what I said

"But it seems, on the whole, we're safer than not."

I've been to Compton a few times. The only thing that scared me was the road construction going on.

[In_The_Wind]

50. I was born in #17 and lived there until I was 21 when I moved to #22.

[Initech]

51. I live in Los Angeles, it's dangerous just driving on the freeways.

[kwassa]

54. not unless you drive slowly in the left lane, then they shoot at you.

unlike here, where everyone thinks it is their natural right.

[RumpusCat]

58. Yup! Our dangerous nation's capital

Even better, I've spent time in another seven of the cities on the list. East coast crime belt, represent!

[ganeshji]

59. As always, Little Rock ranks pretty far down the list

But I'm pretty sure we're high on the list for treating homeless people like shit. This place sucks and it is becoming noticeably more violent.

[GalleryGod]

60. So don't go over the bridge

:rofl:

[av8rdave]

62. Nope. Guess I'm safe

I have lived in Youngstown and Baltimore though, so guess I should be thankful to be alive!

[deadparrot]

64. Hell yes! #1, baby!

:woohoo:

[u4ic]

65. I live in the murder capital of Canada!!!

:bounce:

[XemaSab]

70. What, some guy off another one

during a hockey fight back in 85? :shrug:

[u4ic]

76. Lol

I wish that's all it was...

This is the latest:

EDMONTON -- Three men died early Sunday after shots rang out at a nightclub in downtown Edmonton, police said.

The three deaths bring to 32 the number of homicides in the city this year, making it the second highest year for murders in Edmonton history — with two months to go before year's end.

Last year still holds the record with 39 homicides.

http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=0142f491-4d76-4753-96bb-a65597d466a9&k=44225

[billyskank]

77. You kicked Winnipeg's ass!

You guys are the BADDEST! :bounce:

[u4ic]

78. Grrrrrrrrr!!!

No...wait...





Now, aren't you glad you're on my good side??? :P

[billyskank]

79. Totally

I know if you got pissed at me, you'd get the gophers on my case... :scared:

:hug:

[tinfoil tiaras]

67. Whoa. Jackson isn't on that list.

in-fucking-sane. I thought we had the 3rd highest murder rate in the nation or something....but thats good we're not on there though :)

[scarlet_owl]

68. I was born in St. Louis, but I don't live there anymore.

My family still lives there, though.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

69. Ironically, safe here in NYC.

Safest big city in America, I've heard. :D

[Dem_4_Life]

71. I guess I'm safe in San Antonio, TX nt

[William Bloode]

72. Whats funny is not long ago many of these were fine well run prosperous places.

Ya know 20yrs ago if you said Flint, or Cleveland, and a few others were in the most dangerous list you woulda been called crazy.

Lots of those can be blamed on our governments great stewardship of our jobs, and employee rights protection.

[WCGreen]

73. I'm so glad that after 16 years of almost total GOP rule...

Ohio has three cities in the top 25...

Whoo Hooo....

[MrScorpio]

74. I've been to 12

Detroit, Flint, Birmingham, Cleveland, Gary, B-More, Memphis, Richmond, ATL, Cincy, DC, Lil Rock

And I'm still here

[Nicole]

75. No n/t

[bedpanartist]

80. my city fell out of the rankings - we need to work harder

Dayton, Ohio just ain't as dangerous as it used to be. We used to be in the Top 10.

Probably because there's about half the people here as there once was.

[ChoralScholar]

81. Little Rock is pretty rough

from 12th street on south.

Asher, Roosevelt, 65th street, University are all havens for crime of all sorts.

A friend and I used to go scanner-police-chasing down there, and we saw some awful things.

[ElboRuum]

82. Now just hold up one second there,,,

Are you telling me that Philadelphia didn't make the list... but READING... fucking READING... did?!?

:wow:

[SlavesandBulldozers]

85. Orlando eeks in!!!

we've come a long way, baby!!!

[Bombtrack]

86. I thought Orlando only raised Disney Land employees and boy band members

not a dangerous lot they be.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

87. job-wise, you pretty much rattled off all of the possibilities. . .

but I digress, we've had a real epidemic of murders down here. Orlando's getting pretty hardcore. They say 1000 people move here a day or some such ridiculous thing. You should see the highways, one look at traffic - combined with the heat - and you'll understand the murder rate. It's crossed my mind a couple of times for sure.