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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:11 PM
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Who here is currently in, or has experienced, an "open marriage?"***
What was it like? How did you manage the natural feelings of guilt or jealousy? Did it, or has it worked?

*** No, this is NOT a personal query! I'm just curious, a'right?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:13 PM
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1. View to post ratio will be 250 to 1.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:14 PM
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3. Yyyyup. But I thought I'd give it a go, anyway.
:shrug:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:14 PM
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4. Maybe even more.
Redstone
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:14 PM
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2. Half open
I was single.

She wasn't.

A one time thing.

Did not enjoy it.

My guilt got in the way.





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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:15 PM
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5. I could not do that.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:19 PM
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6. I Couldn't Do That
Edited on Fri Dec-01-06 09:20 PM by Southpawkicker
I could never be a polygamist either

I don't want to share

although I might give away my wife right now!

edit (that sounds really bad, I don't mean that as in give away a "possession", more like... well never mind, just leave it at that, not a possession to be "given away", just .....)

:evilgrin:
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:20 PM
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7. I was in an open relationship once
Never again. It's just not for me. Things get to complicated.

I have no problem if other people want to do it, I'm not going to be in one again. :shrug:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:26 PM
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8. I believe in monogamy.
All relationships get stale once in a while. That means it's time to put some effort into it.
As long as both people are willing to put in that effort and to explore and experiment with
new things, it is well worth keeping it to one.
There's quality and there's quantity - I prefer quality.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:28 PM
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9. My ex thought we should have an open relationship
but neglected to tell me. His affair ended our marriage. I left him 5 years ago.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:30 PM
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10. I'm sorry.
:hug:
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:35 PM
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11. It's okay
Matters of the heart are very touchy for me but I'm trying to work through it all. For me there's no gray area any more. End one relationship before even thinking about starting another.

There was one good thing that came out of it all. Lelapin. :)

:hug:
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:40 PM
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13. ...
:hug:
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:44 PM
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15. Good for you....
I would have done the same thing.

Also, sorry that happened to you.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:48 PM
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16. It happens to more people than most realize
You're either committed to a relationship or you aren't. Taking a test-drive with someone else is not the way to decide if the person you're with and/or married to is still the one you want in your life.

Sorry, I'll get off my soap box now...

:(
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:53 PM
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18. Oh, I know that....
I have seen it happen many times with people. Last company holiday party I attended (maybe four years ago...I HATE them), one of the bigwigs showed up with an ex-employee....they both had to divorce their spouses and now are married. I had no clue what was going on when she left. Since that time, I have not respected either.

So call me old fashioned... :shrug:
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 10:12 PM
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22. We can be old-fashioned together
:hug:
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 10:13 PM
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23. Yay!!!!
:hug:

I don't think that it is a bad thing to be.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:40 PM
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12. I haven't, but would be open to the idea
if my SO talked to me about it.

My ex girlfriend is currently in an open relationship with the father of her beautiful baby boy. They have rules they go by, and just like any other relationship- communication and honesty are the keys. They are very happy, and I'm thrilled for her to have such freedom. :)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:43 PM
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14. well, i wouldn't go that route...
That'll be sure to break up a marriage. In fact, I can't even imagine my spouse even going near that topic, OMG! Anyone who even *thinks* that it's ok, even if it's to save their marriage, should think about checking themself into a mental institution.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:51 PM
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17. isn't that an oxymoron?
I really don't get this stuff. Either you want to play around or you want a relationship with the same person.


If someone isn't ready for a marriage then they shouldn't get married (and there's absolutely nothing wrong with preferring playing the field). If they're married and things aren't satisfying them anymore then end it and move on to something that does.






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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:56 PM
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19. When I was much younger, 20 years ago or so, I had a girlfriend
that I, regretfully, cheated on. I was at a party with some old friends from high school and this young woman pursued me (seriously, pursued me and me being a young jerk, well)

I came clean and told her. I was 19-20, she was 23-24. Thing is, she thought it was the greatest thing?! I was freaked out by it. She wanted to know all about it, and she actually had met this person. The relationship didn't last much longer after that, wasn't really meant to.

Not really an open relationship, but I think she would have accepted it, but only because she had self-worth issues due to an ex-boyfriend.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 09:58 PM
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20. I think it is one of those concepts
that sound better on paper.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 10:11 PM
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21. I had a girlfriend who was always having sex with her girlfriend.
Edited on Fri Dec-01-06 10:11 PM by hunter
But they never had sex with me!

But yikes, if we'd married, yeah, it would have been open, that's for sure... :scared:

I'm so hopelessly monogamous, I'll even tell naked women coming on to me in my dreams, "Um, you're gorgeous and all, but I'm married."

And then I'll wake up to make sure my wife is there!

Can't help myself.

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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 10:57 PM
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24. Two stories, one personal ...
Up front I'll note I am twice divorced. I was in two open marriages. From my perspective, that's really all you need to know.

But for more detail, the first marriage doesn't count as "open" because it never really was. I got married right out of high school, and after living together for about six months, we both realized we had made a grave error in judgment. We'd been great friends, still are friends actually, and she is also the mother of my only child. But we were not compatible as partners, for more reasons than I care to count. The open marriage idea was presented to us by a mutual friend who before being a friend was our sociology professor. He was in an open marriage (more on that in a moment as the non-personal story) and was the ultimate, unrealistic, idealist. He thought that since we were having a child, we should try to stay together, and we might be able to do that by having an open marriage that allowed us to pursue other interests in other people while sharing our lives in close proximity to our daughter. He was a genius to us at the time, so we talked about it and thought that since he was so smart, he might actually know what he was talking about. We didn't really *want* to get divorced; we just didn't want to be around each other all the time. We thankfully gave up on that notion before our daughter was old enough to remember any of it. That year of our lives was worse than previous six months. I was never "with" anyone else during this, despite several opportunities. She was with one, and one late night, she told me she might be falling in love with him.

That, as they say, was that.

The second marriage lasted four years. My wife, after we were married, started describing herself as bisexual, and she wanted to explore that side of herself with me. She had a lesbian friend (one that occasionally indulged in men as a diversion) to whom she'd always been attracted, and one evening we were hanging around with the previously mentioned friend/professor when she started talking about this. Again with the open marriage advice. I was young and much stupider at the time, and I thought this might actually turn out to be fun. It wasn't. My wife had her relationships. We had mutual relationships that were actually just escapades in debauchery, and I must say that the Penthouse Forum letters must all be lies because, from my perspective, it is not all it is cracked up to be. More like a job than fun. Anyway, I didn't have anything outside of the marriage during this, but she did. I never felt what would truly be called jealousy ... just ignored, mostly, sometimes used. It was weird. My wife could pick up women on the basis of it being a threesome, which I didn't quite understand and still don't. But it never really had much to do with me. After the first few experiences I just found it ... too complicated, even boring, and as noted, more like work.

As an aside, there's a movie kinda sort about this that has Mariel Hemingway in it ... can't remember the name of it. Her husband wanted them to have threesomes, and when she finally relented, he discovered he wasn't really needed. Funny movie. I completely identified with that part of his character.

Anyway, then my grandmother died.

When my grandmother died, I fell into a bottle. She had been a parent, not a traditional grandmother, and we were very, very close, and I felt lost afterward, and my perpetual battle with chronic depression took on the root strength of a hundred year oak tree. My wife didn't understand that, didn't think chronic depression was "real" or that my relationship with my grandmother could truly be what I said it was. She was "just" a grandmother. My depression and my drinking started to piss her off, which of course pissed me off, and the "openness" of our marriage became more and more open on her end, as well as being more secretive.

(Why am I revealing all this? I don't know. Moving on.)

At about the same time a close friend of ours suffered the death of her mother at a rather young age, in her 40's I think. We started seeking solace in each other because we felt no one else understood at all, and truly no one our age with whom we were friends really did. My wife certainly didn't, and our friend's father had found his own bottle and pretty much ignored his daughter's existence. Things progressed from there, and for the first time I exercised my prerogative in this supposedly open marriage. My wife left me about six months later and went to live with some guy she had been seeing without my knowledge (it had grown beyond her wanting to explore her bisexuality by that point, also without my knowledge). It was okay for her, she said, because she wasn't emotionally involved. It was not okay for me because I was.

And then everything went to hell, but eventually it all got better, and here I am some ten years later pretty much okay.

The non-personal story: The friend/professor who seemed to be present at the moment of inspiration for both open relationships had an open marriage for about 20 years. Then they decided they wanted to have children and that living such a lifestyle was not a good environment for a child. What they found, though, was that while they truly did seem to manage the openness of their relationship while it was open, going back was impossible. About a year after they "closed" their marriage, they too divorced and never had a child.

In short, I'm not a fan and would never be involved in one again.

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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 11:16 PM
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25. Thank you for sharing all of that.
Your mention of all of it being "work" does make much sense to me. Having to manage the complexity of a standard relationship is enough - this sounds like it was a convoluted mess!

I'm very glad that you are in a better place now. :hug:
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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 11:22 PM
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26. I was an "other" in an open marriage once.
Edited on Fri Dec-01-06 11:27 PM by Madrone
Many, many years ago. I was under the age of 20 - probably around 18. We were all friends, and, I don't know. It happened once (just him and I), and she was well aware.

I don't know where they are now, but at the time it really wasn't weird and they seemed very content with their lives. No weirdness toward me afterward from either.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 11:23 PM
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27. I couldn't do it.
Not that I'd get the chance, and even if I did I would not.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 11:26 PM
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28. Your first incorrect assumption...
is that guilt and jealousy are somehow "natural" feelings. I'm not married, but I am poly and generally either date people who are also poly or who know upfront that I am. There's not really any jealousy for me about my partners' other partners. Jealousy kills any relationship...mono or poly. The desire to own or monopolize another person is not natural in my book.
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