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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 12:59 PM
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Madonna upset because her daughter is dressing trashy
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 01:00 PM by Skittles
(from www.thesuperficial.com)

In the latest issue of British Elle, Madonna says she's worried because her daughter keeps wearing jeans that are too tight. She says:

"My daughter is going through a phase of wearing jeans that are so tight she can't bend her knees in them. I have a go at her and say, 'Can't you wear something else? You have a closet full of clothes and you wear the same pants every day. And please wear a belt because I don't want to see your butt crack when you bend over.'"

Madonna getting upset with her daughter for dressing too slutty is like Mr. T getting upset with his son for pitying too many fools. I think there was a period in Madonna's life where all she wore was spaghetti pasta and condoms.


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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:12 PM
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1. that is rich
I always laugh when I hear Madonna complaining about how trashy today's girls are dressing/behaving.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:22 PM
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3. yes
seeing how the general public has been forced to view HER buttcrack for like what, going on three decades now? :o
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:52 PM
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14. rememebr though, she was an ADULT
when she was doing it. There is a difference. And I am sure Papa Ciccone woulda slapped the shit outta her if she'd dressed that way as a kid.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:14 PM
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2. Don't you leave this house without .putting on ....
your pointy bustiay (sp?)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:27 PM
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4. I don't know how to spell that damn word either
someone help us out here
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:34 PM
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5. Bustier is the word you're looking for. eom
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:34 PM
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6. Bustier
I wish Madonna would wake up and realize she isn't English. That fake way of talking drives me insane -- "have a go at her?" You grew up in MICHIGAN.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:37 PM
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8. same thing happened to Jerry Hall
she picked up a hideous Texas/Brit mix - sounded f***ing terrible, and very phony - I spent part of my childhood in England so it's like fingernails on a blackboard when I hear it
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:57 PM
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68. Texan
I have a strong Texas accent and I love it. Accents and dialects are the flavor of the language. The spice. ...and I have friends who spend half the year in England and half in Texas and their little daughter has a Texas/British accent and it's wonderful to hear.

How else would Jerry Hall sound?! She is a Texan and has spent years in Britian. I love it, myself.
Lee
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:17 AM
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79. I lived in England 11 years and never sounded that ridiculous
it's f***ing PHONY
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:38 PM
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9. First thing that jumped out at me, too
What a bloody twit. :eyes:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:47 PM
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11. I've never understood why people criticize her for this.
Her husband's British. She spends the majority of her time in England. Of course her way of talking is going to change.

I lived in Brooklyn for over 10 years. My accent changed. I grew-up in South Jersey. There are certain phrases that I didn't grow-up with, that I now use after living in Brooklyn/NYC for so long.

I find it odd that no one ever criticizes Tina Turner for this.

:shrug:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:55 PM
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18. Aye
When I moved South, I had a weird "I'm-trying-not-to-pick-up-the-southern-accent accent."

But it didn't take long at all to go from "you guys" to "y'all."
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 02:11 PM
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105. The switch to "y'all" was pretty much instantaneous for me when I moved South
However, when I caught myself saying "might could" I know it was time to head back west...
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:26 PM
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117. LOL
I'm a transplant to the south, too and love "y'all" but totally agree about that oddity known as "might could." My head still spins when I hear it ... often from the mouths of educated folks (teachers, lawyers, doctors, local newscasters, etc.).

And they wonder why the "churrin don't talk good 'Mericun' English ...

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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #11
20. nah
sorry, it's an affectation and a silly one at that. I've lived in Germany for many years, my SO is German and speaks with a German accent when we speak English and when I speak German, I speak with an American accent. You don't suddenly pick up the accent of the locals as an adult.

Jillian Anderson does the same lame English accent shit too.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:30 PM
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21. I did as an adult.
Which is why it's possible Madonna did as well.

I can relate. Obviously, you can't.
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. You moved from South Jersey
to Brooklyn and your accent underwent drastic changes in all pronunciation? Sorry, I'm not buying it.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:36 PM
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26. is there any reason he would be making this up?
:eyes:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:36 PM
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27. Then don't.
My family finds it cute.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. I knew a woman who moved from Scotland to CT
and, her accent changed after a few years, from something that many struggled to understand to one that was much milder. (Her parents back in Scotland would sometimes have problems understanding her unless she consciously switched back...)

Before that, I knew a woman from Jamaica that was similar. Her thick Jamaican accent softened considerably, though she could turn it off & on easier than the Scottish woman.



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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #30
112. same with a very good friend of mine
he's American, but his mom married a man from the Virgin Islands and he lived there for a space of time... he talks regular, but he can flip into Patois and it's remarkable to hear him speak this.
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #25
31. you can hear different accents
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 03:01 PM by frankenforpres
in different parts of boston, and SE mass.

and i dont mean foreign, i mean different regional dialects
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. ofcourse you do. i moved to america as an adult
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 02:33 PM by lionesspriyanka
and my english is now heavily american accented

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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:14 PM
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32. I'm sure your
accent has changed but has it changed to the point that you have NO residual accent left from your home country? Do people mistake you for a native English speaker? Picking up the local sayings...having a go at, taking the piss, etc. are normal parts of assimilating into a culture. A complete change in your pattern of speech as an adult? I don't think so.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:17 PM
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34. actually i am sure the british hear american in madonnas voice
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 03:23 PM by lionesspriyanka
my indian friends only hear american in my voice

americans can hear the indian.

i also speak very differently than i used to
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:27 PM
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37. I'm pretty sure the British can discern an American
accent too. :rofl:

I guess I should be thankful not to have picked up the local accent after so many years. :silly:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #34
60. Same here.
To Brits, I'm have a totally American accent. To Americans all they hear is British. I tell people I'm from Atlantis.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:41 AM
Response to Reply #60
78. atlantis?
cute!

:rofl:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #34
67. I speak differently too.
I grew up in Minnesota. People could tell I was from Minnesota. People here in Idaho can still hear the Minnesota in my voice, but my family in Minnesota teases me about my "Idahoan" inflection.

My oldest daughter picks up accents/dialects very quickly. She doesn't do it on purpose.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #32
113. just because it's not your reality doesn't mean it's not a reality.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:32 PM
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39. some people do pick up accents
to generalize everyone according to what you do or your SO does is just silly.

I used to work in the tourist industry, when cajuns came around and carried on around me while at work, I often responded with a cajun accent. It wasn't that I was trying, it is what my brain processed. Same goes for other accents.

It some times just happens and the focus has to be on not adopting the accent/speech.

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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:40 PM
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44. you are absolutely right!
This whole topic of conversation is silly!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #44
47. It is silly. And you started it by not "buying" my story.
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. you started it?
I'm sorry, I left grade school YEARS AND YEARS ago. I conceded it was silly. WTF?
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:59 PM
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51. OK, then let me rephrase.
It all began when you falsely accused me of making my story up: ie "Not buying it". Then, did a 180 when you were proven wrong by other posters.

I believe proper board etiquette would be to apologize, instead of referring to this whole sub-thread as "silly". But since you're new, I hope you realize where you were mistaken.
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:08 PM
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53. I'm torn
between telling you I'm sorry for "falsely" (sic) accusing you and reminding you this is a thread about Madonna but I see downthread how invested you are in the subject.

I didn't do a 180 about anything. I don't believe that people's basic pattern of speech changes as adults, no matter where you move to in the world. I chose to STOP arguing about it because at the end of the day, it doesn't fucking matter.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:53 AM
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89. I moved around constantly as a GI brat
sure I picked up accents but not PHONY ones....I lived in England and Madonna's accent comes off as completely phony to me, NOT NATURAL
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:25 PM
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94. I'm not saying her accent doesn't sound funny
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 01:26 PM by merh
I'm saying some people pick up accents - your experience is your's.
Mine is that my elementary education was provided by Irish Catholic nuns and I had an ear for their accent, I could sing with a brogue that would melt the heart of any Irishman. Depending on how long I am around others with accents, mine will change and not intentionally. I have to focus on not letting it change.

Everyone is different and their minds process things differently, similarly maybe, but not identically. Why do you think some folks can imitate celebrities while others cannot? It is how their mind processes what they hear.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #94
108. another thing that gives her away
she's not CONSISTENT - she pronounces stuff differently depending on who she's talking to
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:36 PM
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58. You mean the same Gillian Anderson...
...who "lived in London, England, from age 2 to age 11, then moved to Grand Rapids, Michigan, where she was teased for her English accent"? (source: IMDB). I think we can give her a pass, considering she actually lived in England during a period when children's accents start to form. She also went to college in the UK for a time, which would tend to reinforce her accent.

Madge, on the other hand, started speaking like Robin Leach within fifteen minutes of stepping off the plane.

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #20
61. That is not true. Maybe for you it is, but I have noticed
many people who move to the south have started talking a bit more southern. I am sure Brits don't think she sounds English.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:33 AM
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86. I think many people pick up accents as adults
it's not uncommon or necessarily phony.

Or maybe you're right and everything which happens to one person is what happens to all. or something.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 10:35 AM
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99. You can after years of living in the culture......
I know somebody who lived the first 25 years of her life in Canada, then lived in England for 10 years (now back in Canada) and I heard a hint of an english accent when I was talking to her. She said it was much more pronounced when she was in England.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #20
107. Agreed, except...Gillian Anderson GREW UP in England.
I can't speak for Madonna or Jerry Hall.

But I feel I must point out that Anderson spent much of her childhood in England, so I'm not sure it's fake in her case.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #20
115. YOU don't suddently pick up the accent of the locals
I don't either. That doesn't mean no one does.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #11
35. I agree, and the British have a lot of good phrases that one
would naturally pick up because they are useful.

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #11
59. No shit, huh?
I grew up in California but I use terms like "y'all" and "I know, right?".

I speak like a southern california/deep south/new yorker!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #11
65. I don't get that either. It's perfectly normal and natural to move to another region...
and pick up the local inflections and phrases.

I admit that Madonna is not my favorite person, but I see no reason to trash her over the way she speaks.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:22 AM
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80. because it sounds PHONY to me, L is W
I spent many years in England - she sounds to me like someone who is TRYING to speak Brit, not someone who picked it up naturally
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:03 PM
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116. It's just another way of expressing irrational hatred of Madonna
If I were married to a Brit and living in England I'd be doing it as well.

I do it now, just like you do. Everyone can tell who I'm spending time with by the way I talk.

I'd probably make a great subject for hypnosis, I seem to be suggestible that way.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #116
119. What cracks me up about this thread
Is that Madonna is getting exactly what she wants from those who hate her. They're TALKING about her. Whether good or bad, people continue to be fascinated by her. How else can you account for a 25 year career that's still going strong?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 09:34 AM
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120. No, no, no, she's OVER. Washed up, kaput, etc.
Didn't you get the memo?

:evilgrin:
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:19 PM
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36. She's affected
In the 80s, I saw her in the play "Speed the Plough" on Broadway. She was dreadful- and had the worst, stilted "actressy" way of speaking. I don't think she usually spoke like that, but was trying to sound cultured in that role.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:32 PM
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56. Pontiac, no less.
n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:55 AM
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97. That's becuse Anglophilia is the half-wit's idea of "classy"
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #6
98. Oh, have a cuppa
;)
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:48 AM
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111. but she lives there now and she's picking up the colloquialisms
from talking with her husband who did grow up there.

I don't live in England, but I do like their turn of the phrase and try to incorporate it into my speech.

Just like I grew up in St. Louis, I picked up some of the colloquialisms of LA when I lived out there and I'm learning to incorporate the colloquialisms of DC now that I live there.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:36 PM
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7. Brought to you by the same woman who wore her bra outside of her shirt.
:eyes:

She's dealing with what all of us have had to for years.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:40 PM
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10. i liked the way madonna dressed.
most parents are hypocritcal about their kids anyway.

i am sure i will give queerspawn some random lecture about the importance of not doing drugs and blah blah!
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:50 PM
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12. LOL - it's a parent thing
I am so strict with Dropkid. It's all different now that I am the parent.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:55 PM
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17. exactly, i think she is just like most parents.
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:52 PM
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13. I think it's funnier that Madonna and her daughter both have problems bending their knees.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:54 PM
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15. HAHA See the link today? PEte dougherty feeds weeds to penguins!
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:45 PM
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64. Holy shit!
First he sullies poor Kate's reputation with his drugs, now PENQUINS???? Will he stop at nothing? :grr:
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:54 PM
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16. Pot, meet kettle.
Has Madonna ever seen some of the photos of herself? I like your comparison.

:hi:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:24 AM
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81. oh I did not mean to imply that was MY comparison
I got if off that site thesuperficial - I just thought the comparison was hilarious :hi:
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:04 PM
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19. I Have Her "Sex" Book
She didn't wear much at all in that book.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:32 PM
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22. Physicial, heal thyself.
Next headline: "Madonna upset that her daughter is producing crappy pop music."
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:32 PM
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23. madonna just can't admit she's over, she's old and she's OVER
having and now using her child as a publicity stunt is cheaper than any of the other cheap self-promoting stunts she's ever done

there is absolutely no reason to share a remark about her child's "butt crack" with a reporter -- none -- but it's all about madonna and what she thinks will get her in the news

shave your head and die, is my advice to this self-involved creep!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:28 PM
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38. That was kind of harsh. Calling for Madonna's death.
I guess the fact that her concert tour last summer made about $250 million. Her singles are always #1 on the Billboard Dance Chart, not to mention her last CD debuted at #1...worldwide.

This attitude I always find curious: that if an artist isn't as "successful" in America as you define "success" (or call "over") that means that the rest of the planet must agree.

It's obvious that you don't like her. That's fair. But when you don't look at the facts before making such pronouncements, it makes you look a little silly.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:32 PM
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40. And she just won a Grammy!
:bounce:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:35 PM
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41. That's right.
Always happens when a career is over, doesn't?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:37 PM
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42. and she looked fabulous!!
she is still far more fabulous than most of the 20 something pop stars
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:39 PM
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43. She looked great at the Oscars.
And this whole "old" crap reeks of ageism.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:40 PM
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45. i think it reeks of jealousy. i would give up a decade of living to look like her at her age
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 03:43 PM by lionesspriyanka
personally i would trade in my 20 somethign body to her 40 something body in a heartbeat
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 11:17 AM
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102. Accusing somebody of "jealousy" over Madonna? LOL
Oh, right, people are just SO jealous of Madonna? That's like some kind of childish taunt. You're just JEALOUS!!!! :eyes:

Maybe the fact that Madonna does just about ANYTHING to stay in the news is just wearing a bit thin. Who really cares about her kid and her butt crack?
I know a ton of 40 somethings who look WAY better than Madonna.

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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:59 AM
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114. more like intimidated and rendered powerless in that intimidation
to the point that their only recourse is to lash out in order to regain some sense of power they perceived was taken from them when they read her name. :eyes:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:41 PM
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46. I agree.
There will only ever be one Madonna! :bounce:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:53 PM
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70. are you people for real? you think normal women talk about their kid's butt crack?
madonna is ill, obviously i was kidding about "old," since i'm her age, but she's clearly mentally ill and out of her freaking mind

they say the mind is the first to go and she is exhibit "a"

would you really give up your mental health and your sanity and start talking to reporters about your kid's butt crack just to look like an over-the-hill tramp? any woman my age can look like madonna, all it takes is $$$ for the surgeries, if you were sufficiently motivated you could do exactly the same thing

not everyone who has lost her mind can buy it back...at any price

i wouldn't be her for all the tea in china, frankly, money or brain -- money or brain -- rich woman who makes idiot remarks about my child's butt or woman who tries not to shame her child in public

i dunno, seems pretty clearcut to me
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:26 AM
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82. When my mom took me to the GAP as a teen
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 11:28 AM by JackBeck
she would always point out my package and my ass to the person who was helping us.

Maybe it's an Italian thing.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:52 PM
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49. Ya know, JB
There seems to be so much misdirected venom over there in Ami-land. I've never been a great fan of Madonna. I DO GREATLY RESPECT what she has achieved. She's a hard working girl who developed her talents to their fullest potential. Blonde victim she is NOT. She has regularly re-invented herself and is FEARLESS.

She is now the mom of a daughter. Mine are boys, and when the 2nd one came out I said, "THANK YOU UNIVERSE!" I cannot help but stand in complete solidarity with her as I stifle the gut splitting laughter at the IRONY of it all!

As for her accent "affectation," some critics need to give it a rest. Musically-inclined folks are natural mimics. It's about sound concept and reproduction. I'm a TOTAL chameleon in that regard. It involves no conscious attempt on my part, except when I'm speaking a language other than my mother tongue where the conscious attempt at sound reproduction is a POSITIVE THING if you wish to be properly understood...
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:58 PM
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72. she's the mother of a daughter she obviously doesn't care about
one day this child will be able to read

one day this child will know about these conversations her mother thoughtfully shared with the world about matters that should have been private

that is just such an ugly thing to do to a child

sheesh, madonna should have kept any discussion of the child's butt crack between them, not used it as a cute teaser for a reporter

if you can't see how sick that is, what can i say?

young girls are sensitive, they don't need such personal things as fashion faux pas hashed out in the media, they don't need to be held up to public scorn

it's just ugly and unnecessary

if madonna can't get attention any other way, she needs to STFU, she's a waste of oxygen

as for a 40 year old (now 48 or 49 year old) woman being a helpless mimic and unable to control her ridiculous and snotty accent, please, there is nothing attractive about a woman who is ashamed of her background and who pretends to be of an ancestry that she perceives to be of higher status, she's a classist witch obviously
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:17 PM
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76. Well, it wasn't like she gave some in-depth description of her child's posterior.
She said "butt crack." I thought it was kind of funny. I wouldn't have died of humiliation if my mom had said the exact same thing. In fact, she kind of did, on numerous occasions, Granted, it wasn't to the Associated press, but still, my momma doesn't mince words.

The irony of Madonna worried about how her daughter dresses is funny to me. I don't see anything that would give me reason to call Child Protective Services.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:33 AM
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87. Madonna's rich & famous. And still beautiful.
She may have had surgical "help"--but she's also worked hard to keep her body well toned. Madonna's music was never my favorite & "Desperately Seeking Susan" was her only decent movie. But she's always been hard working & ambitious.

It's slightly endearing to hear her say "don't do what I did, do what I want you to do!" Many non-rich & non-famous parents have done the same.

(I'm neither rich nor famous. While I'm in decent shape, I don't look like her on the red carpet. Heck, I've never been on a red carpet. But I'm not bitter about it.)

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:39 PM
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118. I think you are taking it way out of context. I think a lot of moms
can relate to having their daughters want to wear too old clothes. To say she doesn't care about her daughter is ridiculous.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:36 AM
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88. Call CPS on me; I'm constantly complaining (complained) about
see my child's butt crack. Thankfully she's over that. You are over the line.
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:26 PM
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90. No one said they would call CPS.
They said they DIDN'T see anything to call CPS over.

:eyes:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:47 AM
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96. VenusRising, I wasn't responding to you. Thank you...but,
the poster I was responding to said that Madonna shouldn't be speaking of her child's buttcrack to reporters. Please read threads before you jump all over someone. :eyes:
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:06 AM
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121. "shave your head and die"... Now that's creepy.
:eyes:
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:40 PM
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28. She "has a go at her"?! Madonna, for the last time, YOU ARE NOT FUCKING ENGLISH n/t
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:44 PM
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29. I have a daughter the exact same age as Madonna's. They were born the same month, in fact.
I think it's pretty ironic she's feeling this way, given her own personal history....but hey, I'm willing to cut her some slack b/c I know how things can change, once one is a parent.

It's true that today's young girls are being sexualized at earlier ages. Since she's been around the block with that topic herself, I'd suspect she has a lot of wisdom to share with her own daughter about what's appropriate or not.

Here's hoping, anyway.

:hi: Skittles!
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 11:39 AM
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103. I'll have more compassion for parents who at least tried to set an.......
example for their kids, but who is Madonna to complain? :shrug:

The way she dressed, her videos with guys' units sticking out to God knows where, etc..... ;)

I don't know, but then again, maybe her daughter is just pre-teen trouble ready to happen. Not everybody has model children. ;)



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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:16 PM
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33. Like they say, "The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree."
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:52 PM
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50. I love you Skittles!
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 03:52 PM by Blue-Jay
"Mr. T getting upset with his son for pitying too many fools"

:rofl:

That's comedy gold, and I'm stealing it!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:28 AM
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83. oh darn it Blue-Jay I did not mean to imply that was my comparison!!!
that's all excerpted from that site www.thesuperficial.com - yeah, it cracked me up too!! :hi:
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:01 PM
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52. Irony, thy name is Madonna.
What goes around does, eventually, come around.
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:12 PM
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54. Things change when you become a parent
I used to drink and do drugs when I was a minor and if I find my kids do so I would be pissed.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:31 AM
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85. BUT
did you drink and drug on camera and charge people to see it? :o
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:38 PM
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92. of course..
doesn't everyone.:P
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:30 PM
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55. So daughter wants to make her OWN way in life...
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 06:30 PM by Orsino
...and not just inherit Mom's money. I think she's showing remarkable strength of character.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 09:56 AM
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109. A preteen kid wanting to change the world......
or raises money for homeless people, or what have you, is showing strength of character, not Madonna's daughter.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:32 PM
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57. Wow, she's changed...
I'd put up some pics, but that'd get this thread locked... and they're only pics 15+ years old that everybody's seen before. :7


Still, as fatuous I could get regarding this, is it not possible people can learn and change?
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:43 PM
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62. Skittles you are my hero!
:thumbsup:

:rofl:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:44 PM
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63. What a fucking asshole
God, I can't really dislike someone more than I dislike her. I wish she should just shut the fuck up already.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:48 PM
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66. "...all she wore was spaghetti pasta and condoms.?" That's HILARIOUS!
Redstone
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:10 PM
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69. superficial is a great website
i have to show my daughter the lindy lohan "mom`s jeans" pictures
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:57 PM
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71. Madonna was an adult when she dressed that way
Even if kids don't dress appropriately when they grow up, it's still their parents' job to tell them what is and isn't appropriate regardless of what they did at any given stage in life. :shrug:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:02 PM
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73. Lourdes is what, 13 or something?
If I remember right Madonna was around 23 when she hit it big. I think it's appropriate to have restrictions on what a child that age wears, whereas a 23 year old is well over the age of consent.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:10 PM
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74. Well motherhood does change your view sometimes.
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 08:11 PM by Nicole
There are things I wore in the 70's that I hoped my child wouldn't.

I'm so glad halter tops & short shorts were not the fashion when my daughter was a teen.

Am I hypocrite? You bet! :P
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:16 PM
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75. the daughter is only ten!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:18 PM
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77. hahahahaha, that's too classic!!!!
:rofl:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:29 AM
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84. CLARIFICATION
I agree with everyone the Mr. T comparison is a classic but I did NOT mean to imply I wrote it - that text is all excerpted from www.thesuperficial.com :)
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 10:47 AM
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100. you're so nice...
i would have let folks think i wrote it...maybe :hi:
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:31 PM
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91. Well, Madonna believes in karma.
She just got hit by the mack truck of it. Think about all those poor mothers that had to tell their daughters they could not, in fact, wear their underwear on the outside of their clothes or wear nothing but lace belly shirts.

Madonna's a whore, but Karma's a bitch. :rofl:
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:56 PM
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93. Should your children be able to do everything an adult can?
If you wear sexy lingerie, do you toss out the onesies to strap a bra onto your toddler?

If you drink a beer, should your ten year old drink it?

:shrug:

Other parents are responsible for letting their children dress like Madonna. Madonna is responsible for clothing her own daughter. If she wants her to pull up her pants, then it's her choice.

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 03:44 AM
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95. I have only one thing to add to this
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 10:52 AM
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101. Madonna has always struck me as someone....
Edited on Sat Mar-03-07 11:00 AM by Jade Fox
who doesn't quite get the consequences of her actions. It's like if something allows her to get what she wants right now (which seems mostly to be attention), it never occurs to her that there may be fallout, whether negative or positive, later on.

If her daughter is dressing like a no-self-esteem-anything-for-the-attention-of-any-guy sort of girl, Madonna need look no further than her mirror for the source of that behavior.

The best comment I ever read about Madonna is that she doesn't allow men to exploit her--she just goes ahead and does it herself.
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Ms_Dem_Meanor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 11:54 AM
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104. uh...
Does she really have room to talk? :wtf:


Hey Madonna! If the girl's jeans are too tight, tell her to stay out your closet!!! :rofl:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 04:37 PM
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106. I love The Superficial - the writing cracks me up and that quote's no exception!
I read that other day & just about fell out of my chair with the Mr. T comparison.

I wish I could sprinkle my everyday conversation with "Superficialisms," but nobody would get me.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:45 AM
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110. ah, she's been blessed with a daughter just like herself
but then again, she wasn't wearing that stuff when she was 11 yr old, either. I can understand her frustration on that point.

young girls can be very impressionable when it comes to fashion... I was aghast recently when I saw a bunch of tweeners all excited and lined up to buy Paris Hilton's book about how to be an heiress. Of all the people out there, Hilton is the last person I would call a roll model for young, impressionable girls who are not going to be heiresses.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 10:09 AM
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122. Jesus Christ, Skittles

Madonna getting upset with her daughter for dressing too slutty is like Mr. T getting upset with his son for pitying too many fools.


That is possibly the funniest thing I've ever read on DU. :patriot:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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