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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:46 PM
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I am failing my religion class
:cry: :cry:

I cannot stand it. I don't know what to do!! I cannot just be a "yes ma'am" person, I can't. As a matter of fact I think I will get in trouble tonight. I was fed up and I know it was childish but couldn't help it but being an smart ass. Some idiot posted a letter on the class message board about how Muslims will take over the world and I replied to it with "Hate speech in a religion class? A shocker!!

If I fail, that will put off my graduation for a year. I just needed to vent.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:49 PM
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1. What kind of class is it? Is it ABOUT religion, or about religions,
or just Christianity?

What?

As to the idiot moron asshole - he's an idiot moron asshole. And more than likely a Christian - probably a fundy fuck Jesus Crispy one, too. Pay him no mind - he's a waste of flesh.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:54 PM
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2. It is supposed to be about "living"
but living according to the Bible and making God look like a Diva which I don't agree with. Of course, most of the test questions are based on opinions about the Bible and my opinions are very different. I am supposed to "get with the program" since my school is funded by a mayor church. In one of the tests I was asked for my opinion about something and I was only given half the points even when I almost wrote an essay!! My degree is not even on religion but Health care!!!!!!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:57 PM
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4. So it's really a Christian doctrine class, not a religion class then?
Sounds like a fucking nightmare, and I'm a Christian.

What's the church the school is affiliated with?
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:59 PM
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5. Yes
The one religion with a 7...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:17 PM
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7. Is this a high school?
Or a college?
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:23 PM
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9. College
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 11:17 PM
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12. I hope your other classes have taught you more useful things than this one.
Although maybe you've learned something useful from this one, just not what they were expecting to learn.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:18 PM
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8. Seventh Day Adventists?
Holy shit!

I'd leave.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 02:18 AM
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20. I had to take two semesters on the Bible and two semesters of religion electives.
One of them was called "Being Human," LOL. But that one was easy for me to get through because I wrote poetry when we had to read Martin Buber, which was a pretty big hit, LOL. My friend did not do well in this class and she wondered what that meant to her status as a human...:eyes: But I found that these people were pretty easy to deal with as long as they thought that you were on board. I complained to my father and he said that if he could make it through the Navy, which he hated, I could make it through this, so some things are worse. But my sympathies are with you, my friend. But you can make it through this, if I did, trust me.:hi:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:56 PM
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3. that sounds terrible
Wow, it sounds like a terrible situation to be in and I too would be struggling just the way you are right now. :hug:

I would definitely fail.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:08 PM
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6. Find creative ways...
Edited on Wed Mar-14-07 09:21 PM by Chan790
to respond to such idiocy.

Virtually all of the major Christian religions have biblical interpretations which forbid religious persecution. Given, they don't tend to follow them...but a response of "Religious persecution isn't very Christian." might win you brownie points with the prof. if nothing else if you can cite sources. (If the institution in question is Catholic you need to look no farther than Vatican II. )

Speaking as a graduate of a nutty uber-Catholic university run by a zealot RW nutjob who invited John Ashcroft (who is pro-death penalty and has made anti-catholic comments in the past) to campus and verbally mocked Sr. Helen Prejean (who is anti-death penalty (the official Catholic position), and...well, moderately liberal. (but very pro-life.)) behind her back, I can tell you it is possible to graduate and still attack religious lunacy if you do it right.

Edit: can't spell. Been awake for too long. Have tomorrow off so I can't go to bed this early unless I want to wake up at 7am.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:04 PM
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10. Try to put it into perspective
If you fail, you will not really be condemned to eternal damnation. It will just suck.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:09 PM
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11. this is for you--hang in there, baby
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 12:37 AM
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13. Lol.
Great response.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 12:38 AM
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14. that sounds like a GOOD thing to me . . .
just saying
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 12:51 AM
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15. I hate to say this, but since you go to a religious school, tell them what they want to hear.
Give the SDA doctrinal answer for everything, and as soon as you get a passing grade you can forget everything you think is horseshit. Just think of it as practice at sucking it up and nodding your head at very stupid ideas, a skill that absolutely will apply out there in the corporate world.

If you ever find that you have a hard time doing it, think about how much an extra year of school is going to cost, not just in terms of tuition and books and such, but since you won't be out there working in lost wages. Suck it up and say enough of what they want to hear to pass. You're not studying to be a theologian and this class is clearly a waste of your time (a real religion class with critical analysis might be interesting and useful but it sounds like this is sunday school for grownups and you're paying tuition for it) so if they're going to waste your time by blathering about the whims of somebody's imaginary friend, at least don't let them waste your time twice.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 12:55 AM
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16. One thing I will never, ever, ever understand about fundie Christians
go with me on this:

Secular Progessives are evil.
Secular Progressives are a powerful group.
Secular Progressives hate religion.

In fact, SPs are so powerful in this country that we have forced the large majority, Christians, into silence. They have had to keep their religion secret, and are only now being outspoken and proud. But they do so at their peril, because the SPs are so influential that we can have anything Christian done away with and PC'd out of existance. We killed Christmas, and are working on killing easter.


Ok, fair enough.

But if we are that powerful...

Why do they insist that we would be the first to cave in to Muslims and Islam? Why do they think we would let the "Islamofascists" win?

We have been oppressing Chrsitians for years, right?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:46 AM
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17. If it makes you feel any better...
Edited on Thu Mar-15-07 01:48 AM by ellisonz
I got a D last semester in Introduction to Sociology...for not being Yes, Sir capitalist enough. Long live Marxism!

:mad:

Edit: D is for Degree.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:53 AM
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18. I went to college at a Jesuit university, and was required to take
religion classes. I loved them, and the priests who were the professors in those classes absolutely LOVED being challenged.

I don't think you should have to be a "yes ma'am" person. If this class requires you to do that, it's not really an academic class; it's a class to proselytize to the students, which has no place in a classroom, unless one is attending a university that bills itself as a religious one.

I think what you did was great. :thumbsup:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:56 AM
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19. I had to take religion in school, as well, and wasn't a big fan of it.
My saving grace was that I happened to sit next to another girl who was a black Muslim, so she was always challenging the uptight teacher, and made me laugh. I had no idea what this meant back when I was in high school, but I appreciated her attitude. I was never a "yes, sir" kind of person, either, and I was also a "smart ass" in school, which also got me in trouble, but, trust me, you can get through this. Just get through it, and you can, if I did.:hi:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 08:36 AM
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21. Consider it an acting class.
You don't need to agree with the character you are playing in order to pass the class.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 08:49 AM
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22. My daughter, who is an atheist like me, worked at a Catholic college
in Miami. In order to earn more money and advance in her job, she had to get her BA degree. She was required to take certain religious classes. Well, since she worked for the college, her education was free. So she just hung in there and endured the classes and finally graduated with her BA. She is now a teacher in middle school.
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