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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:41 PM
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HARRY POTTER!!!!!!
BEST of the HP movies (except One of course, cause it was the first!) but this was totally awesome. I wanted to go right back in and see it again!

Though I'll be going again Saturday when my 13 yo gets home from camp. We'll be going from the bus to the theater.

I absolutely loved it. My 8 yo son loved it. My 26 yo daughter loved it. She's went to the midnight and is going back this evening.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Of course it wasn't perfect - and some differences from the book - but overall. It was great!

Such an excellent treatment of teenage angst and the struggle of good and evil.

Delores Umbridge - I hate her as much as Lucius Malfoy - maybe more. She really delighted in her evil.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:48 PM
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1. I Just Came From The Theatre *spoilers*
As movies for the sake of movies go, I agree - if it's not the best so far, it's closely tied to PoA.

Eliminating many of the book's nuances allowed them to make a tight, taut movie.

That said, now that I've come to appreciate the Hogwart's world a little more than I did when SS came out, I like those nuances and don't mind seeing them on the screen.

I would have liked to seen a little more of the Order of the Phoenix and have the various members explained. Else I fear we'll miss the Tonks/Lupin action in the future.

What I'm trying to get at is, the things that were cut out for this movie, it's okay that they were cut out, but I feel it's going to make extra work for whomever directs Deathly Hallows. Already I saw where there was one character they were going to leave on the floor entirely, but Rowling advised them against it because that char was going to be important in the future.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:58 PM
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2. Neville should have gotten more play
in the movie. It doesn't show how BIG a role he played in the battle against Voldemort - nor does it highlight the question of whether Neville "should have been" the "chosen one", etc.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:00 PM
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3. She Was Talking About
The very blonde one.

But you're right about Neville, too.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:19 PM
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9. which very blonde one
the new young one

or the old old one?

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:30 PM
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38. Luna?
My God. She was the perfect add-in. I can't imagine that movie without her. The girl captured the role to perfection.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:01 PM
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43. Want to know something amazing?
We met a girl at a Harry Potter discussion at the library years ago - who became my son's best friend.

If you dyed her hair blonde - she'd be a dead ringer for Luna. Words, mannerisms, tone, the way she walked, skipped, looked. everything.

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:55 PM
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86. I pictured her as Dakota Fanning
& by god, they got the most Dakota Fanning-looking actress they could find. I like Luna. :)

dg
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:38 PM
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89. funny though, I think she bears a resemblance
to Lucius Malfoy. The nose - and the hair.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:34 PM
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79. Nope, JK stepped in to save the very short, grumpy CG generated one
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #79
96. Ahhhh
I was thinking Malfoy, I'd seen a complaint he'd been whittled to three lines. The grumpy one makes perfect sense, and if that is the case, they cut out far too much as it is.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:46 AM
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100. So you are both saying that the movie should have been
at least 5 hours long? . . . not that that would have been a bad thing.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:32 AM
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19. Looking in my crystal ball
I'm going to say the bartender at the Hog's Head. :D
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:27 AM
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29. Goodness, Yeah, Him Too
Not the bartender but, from the book, some other skulker there? He was completely cut, wasn't he?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #29
47. Nope, he was in the movie
but if you blinked you missed him.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:28 PM
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37. Percy had the shortest cameo in the bunch.
Certainly it wasn't him you're talking about?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:17 PM
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48. Upon thought and reflection there are a few candidates:
Shacklebolt, Kreacher, Aberforth, and Percy come immediately to mind.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:35 PM
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80. See post #79
Got that straight from Pottercast. (Yes, I'm a total fanboy)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #80
90. You should go post your predictions in the Fantasy Lit forum....
"Imperio!"
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:56 PM
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94. Is there an "official" predictions thread over there?
If not, why don't you start one?

Imperio-right-the-fuck-back ;)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:01 PM
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95. There's a death predictions thread.
It's good times. :D
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:18 PM
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76. cool, someone else who likes PoA
I think that's the best one of the series so far, but I've found I'm definitely in the minority in that regard. The scene in the screeching shack, when you don't know (unless you've read the book, of course) which side Lupin and Sirius are really on as they have our heroes cornered in the shack is the best scene in the series by far. :)

I liked the new one, though they sacrificed a lot in the name of a tighter movie. It did pay off, pacing wise, I think, though there were a couple of places where the pieces didn't quite fit ...
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:27 PM
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I Totally Dug PoA
I thought it was the best of the films especially from a visual standpoint; there were just so many cool details, the way the season changes were marked, for example.
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Divameow77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:12 PM
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4. I just got back from seeing it
and I really liked it. Just the scenes at the ministry made it the best so far in my book.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:20 PM
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10. The special effects were
AWESOME!

I loved the nighttime broom ride.

And the fight at the end was better than reading it. (Which is something I very rarely say!)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:35 PM
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40. I wish they had remained consistence with the ember face conversation
between Sirius and Harry. I thought they cut corners resorting to the old double exposure trick.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:37 PM
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81. It wasn't a double exposure
If you look closely, you can see that the face is actually formed out of the flames. But it *looks* like a cheesy double exposure. The ember-face was much cooler.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:31 PM
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39. Didn't they nail the ministry entrance area?
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Divameow77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:43 PM
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83. It was awesome
nt
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:14 PM
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5. do you think it would be ok for my 7 year old little sister?
she loves the hp movies but i'm worried about the pg-13 rating
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:12 PM
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7. it's fairly safe, but there is one scene where a character is bloody
and another with a disturbing death. not worse than bambi's mother, but still unpleasant.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:22 PM
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11. Hey -
My youngest is 8. Though I think it really depends on the kid. If she hasn't been scared by the others, I don't think she'd be scared by this one.

It was on-the-edge-of-your-seat action - and some "scary" stuff - but in all honesty - the "normal looking people" doing "normal stuff" was scariest (Delores Umbridge is truly evil in my book.)

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:01 AM
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13. she is one of the nastiest fictional characters to be written about for a long time.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 01:56 PM
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32. isn't she just, though?
She really ENJOYED being nasty. Excellent casting, excellent acting.

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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:54 PM
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60. Imelda Staunton!
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I had to grin at the thought of Imelda Staunton suddenly turning into the most famous woman in the world, thanks to being cast as the meanest teacher this side of the 21st century. We've all seen her in something -- Shakespeare in Love, Antonia and Jane -- but Vera Drake really put her on the map, and now HP V should take care of the rest...



Imelda Staunton and Jim Carter
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:29 PM
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114. She played the role of Laura Bush to a T
I also think that Licius Malfoy resembles George, and Voldemort is a dead ringer for Dick Cheney.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:27 PM
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97. I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard it depends alot on the child.
How you doing down there? Have y'all had any problems with draught? We didn't get to go to our lakehouse this year because the lake pretty much dried up :(

Hope you're doing well :) :hi:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:14 PM
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6. we are planning to go on Friday for my birthday
I wanted to go today, but the guys wanted to wait.... :cry:

It looks really, really cool. That book is awesome...
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:15 PM
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8. My wife and son went today and they were very excited by it.
So add two more thumbs up. Advice to those who have yet to see it would be pee before going into the theater. It's non-stop action, they said.


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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:23 PM
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12. most definitely make the pit stop BEFORE it starts
You do NOT want to miss a second. There are NO "slow parts".
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:51 PM
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92. There really really are NO slow parts! This movie was very tight
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 01:38 AM
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14. I liked it a lot
Though they left out some of my favorite scenes from the book (particularly the hospital for Magical Maladies and the shrieking portrait of Sirius' mother in the Order's headquarters).

I do wonder how much sense it made to folks who hadn't read the book. I think they had to leave out a lot of the back story to bring the movie to manageable length. I also suspect that Neville and his parents will play a huge role in book seven, but I saw little foreshadowing of it here.

The flying scenes and the scenes in the Room of Necessity were brilliant, and the climactic scene in the Hall of Prophesy actually made more sense here than in the book. And Dolores Umbridge! Just as smug, devious and insufferable as in the book. I do hate her more than Lucius Malfoy. Lucius is just a child, warped by a horrible family, whereas Dolores is as cunning a Republican politician as I've ever seen. I used to like the color pink, but I think I'm going to have to stop wearing it for quite a while.

And I enjoyed the hell out of Luna Lovegood. The young actress who played her caught the dreamy, quirky quality without making her annoying, as she sometimes came across in the novel. I just hope they make more of Tonks in the next movie. She's also one of my favorite characters.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:35 AM
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20. Three disappointments:
1) No St Mungo's.

2) Snape's worst memory could have been 20 minutes long, and not 30 seconds (it's really my favorite scene in the whole series).

3) The fireworks didn't spell out swear words. :(
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:15 PM
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33. I think they left out an important part
of Snapes memory - where Lily intervenes for him when James is bullying.

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:21 PM
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77. yeah, good point
that was a pretty important detail ...
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:51 PM
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85. Good call
n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:39 PM
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41. I was really looking forward to the grey underwear.
But, we should be seeing more of that scene because Harry's mother came to his rescue, which may play into why Snape would give a damn about Harry in the Hollows book, <cough> assuming he comes around, of course.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:01 AM
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15. Helena Bonham Carter plays Bellatrix Lestrange
Can't wait to see that.




After all, she played Miss Lucy Honeychurch in "A room with a view" :D

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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:38 AM
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21. That's Dame Maggie Smith behind her, is it not?
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 02:41 AM by badgerpup
In the Room With A View pic?

And Dame Maggie Smith is Minerva McGonagall in the Harry Potter movies.

Saw her once LIVE when she and Sir John Gielgud were performing Private Lives in Los Angeles many years ago...:loveya:

I wanna be her if I ever grow up...
edit to ask...

Ummm...:blush: would this be a suitable movie for a first date for adults?
I mean REALLY adults? Over 40 and all that?
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:39 AM
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22. Yes, it is Maggie Smith
she is a fantastic actor to say the least.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:49 AM
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23. You mean "Room with a View"
Depending. It is a very romantic movie. Also has a quiet humor I really love. Fantastic actors: Helena Bonham Carter, Maggie Smith, Daniel Day-Lewis, Simon Callow ....
If the other part is romantic as well, sure, why not. But then, I am biased, as it is one of my favorite movies.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:27 PM
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46. I mean Harry Potter and TOOTP...
Room with a View isn't playing anywhere, I don't own a TV, let alone DVD or video thingy...
and I'm not really comfortable about first date taking place at either person's home...:blush:
even though we have known each other for a while.
I want to go s-l-o-w-l-y.

Harry Potter looks like best bet among yawnful assortment available here...:boring:
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:56 AM
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24. For adults? Definitely!
I enjoyed the hell out of it, and I'm sixty. I would hope at least one of the adults had read the books, since I suspect much of the plot would appear nonsensical to some one not familiar with the characters.

And it would be fun to dissect the differences between the novel and the movie of OOTP.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:54 PM
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93. I've never read the books but have seen the first 4
But this movie was SO SO SO good that I am actually going to read all the books now
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:28 AM
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27. Yes, They're Re-United, Sort Of
I was thinking what a long way HBC has come from Miss Lucy Honeychurch when I left the movie. But I thought that after Fight Club, too.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:22 PM
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49. Depends on whether both adults have read the books
The kiss with Cho is STEAMY. People were catcalling. ;)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:15 AM
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71. It Looked Like a REAL Kiss
As opposed to what we normally see: two people trying to hermetically seal each other.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:03 AM
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16. I must be weird. I haven't read any of the books nor have I seen any
of the movies. :hide:
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:05 AM
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17. You better start NOW!!!
because the books are such joy to read. When you start one, you don't want to stop. And you have the advance to read all 7 of them without having to wait at least a year for the next one to come out :D

:hi: :hug: :loveya:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:06 AM
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18. Perhaps I will get around to reading them. Everyone I know who has read
them loved them.

:loveya: :hug: :loveya:
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:06 AM
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26. And stick your fingers in your ears and chant
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 03:07 AM by FloridaJudy
"La La La La La, I don't hear you!" to anyone who tries to tell you the plot. A character dies in each of books four, five and six, and it would be a pity to know who is doomed beforehand. I've heard that a really important person dies in book seven, but I'm deliberately not reading any speculations until I get my copy at midnight on the 29th.

I've had too many good movies (Sixth Sense, The Crying Game and The Usual Suspects) ruined for me by folks who can't keep their big fat mouths shut. Grrrrrrrrr. :banghead:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:14 AM
Response to Reply #26
98. In 1980, someone wrote "Darth Vader is Luke's father"
--all over the damned Boston subway walls.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:47 PM
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107. It wasn't me!
:rofl:

But I know some guys who it would have been just in their ways to have done it. :)
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:23 AM
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99. i'm staying off the internet completely beginning on tuesday
to avoid spoilers. i got burned on OotP and HBP and it won't happen this time!
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:48 AM
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105. We're turning off the tv -
turning off the radio.

turning off the phones.

staying off the net.

locking ourselves in - and read read read read read read read.

Damn. I so need to order another copy. I can't wait for my kid to read the one copy first!!

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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:23 PM
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112. If you wait until midnight on the 29th, you'll be a week late!
Book comes out next Friday night/Sat am at midnight.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:41 PM
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42. You're weird.
I'm just sayin...
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:50 PM
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45. What is wrong with you, woman?!?
Read the books.

Then rent the movies.


Much better that way, I think.

Make it a marathon thing.

I love Hermione Granger.

and Harry

and Ron

and the Twins

and Hagrid, of course.

and I adore Dumbledore.


and the best part - I really really LOVE TO HATE the bad mean evil people. Makes you wish you could just whip out a wand IRL sometimes.

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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:00 AM
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25. I saw it yesterday afternoon and I really enjoyed it
I was planning to go see it the night before at a midnight show, but that show was actually sold out! This amazed me, as I can't think of a time before that a midnight show had been sold out at my local theater, although I figure it's happened with other movies with large cult followings.

It's hard for me to pick a favorite movie in the series so far. It would probably come down to the POA and the GOF for me, but this one would be right behind them. I've enjoyed all of the movies, and this one may be the most consistently enjoyable one released so far. I wouldn't have minded it being a little bit longer, though; I don't think more detail would have hurt it.

As for the books, despite seeing all of the movies I have yet to get started on the books. Five family members who I am close to have read all of them and have told me I should get started on them numerous times. I've been thinking about finally getting going on them in a day or so, as it would be cool to be able to read them all back-to-back, with the seventh one getting released in a couple of weeks and all. I guess I would find out if it's possible to develop Harry Potter burnout! However, I've heard little but good things about them so I'm expecting it would be a pretty fun experience.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:27 PM
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53. They're good the first time you read them and don't know the story
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 11:29 PM by XemaSab
but they're GREAT if you know the story a little and can appreciate the details and setups.
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:59 AM
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28. I saw it last night and enjoyed it.
I couldn't even get up to go to the bathroom because I didn't want to miss anything. It kept my attention the whole time.

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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:57 AM
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30. Kick-ass. I loved it.
Saw it yesterday evening. Made sure I got there early to get a good spot in line. Glad I did! :D

:bounce:

Yeah...Umbridge is a bitch... oh I wanted to strangle her... SHE PUT SUGAR IN HER COFFEE/TEA/WHATEVER IT WAS!!!! Heresy! :grr:


:rofl:
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:52 PM
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59. talk about heresy -
did you see that the KITTEH was a SNITCH???????

I mean really. Who'd ever suspect such a cute little thing! I wanted to strangle it! :grr:
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:18 AM
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69. yeah....those cats were all annoying...especially the snitch.
They gave kitties a bad name!
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:24 PM
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31. Saw it yesterday afternoon - couple of thoughts
First of all, I loved it. I really liked the new director's style. The broomride at night was great! The wizarding battles are just fantastic!

Now, I really think they needed to flesh out a few more things. I think it was a bit glossed over just to save on time. I would sit through a 3 hour movie and I think most Harry Potter fans would so that we could have more depth.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:19 PM
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34. Yeah, my biggest disappointment is that
is was TOO SHORT!

I liked the new style, too. Much tighter. Much more real - than the last two.

I thought it an excellent job of showing the teenage angst they were all going through, too.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:24 PM
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35. Delores Umbridge was Nancy Reagan!
Well, that was my impression! :)

I loved the movie. I thought it was the best of the series at telling a complete story on the screen. Columbus did that in the first two, but he was so literal that he didn't capture the awe of the series. Newell and Cuaron captured the awe and the emotions of the books, but their stories were so jumbled you had to know the books to follow them.

"Order" was the best all-around movie, I thought, although Yates held back on the emotional punches for some reason. Each time he had a chance to rip at your heart, he pulled up rather than going for it. Typical British attitude, I guess. :)

Luna Lovegood was wonderful, too. Tonks showed promise, though she was underutilized.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 02:26 PM
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36. I was...underwhelmed.
Wish they hadn't made the longest book the shortest movie.

I understand that you can't fit all that material into a 2-3 hour movie, but everything felt rushed (especially the end), and I think that certain plotlines were concluded in the book that weren't in the movie.

I don't know. Maybe I was expecting too much after hearing so many rave reviews. :shrug:
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:36 PM
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44. Delores = Laura Bush
Was it just me or did Delores Umbridge look like Laura Bush's long lost twin? Some of her facial expressions...and the clothes...just, dear god. I couldn't get past it.

Also, all of her ridiculous edicts regarding education reminded me of No Child Left Behind.

:rofl:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:24 PM
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51. Delores is "Vera Drake"!!!!
I saw it Wed. night.

Delores is Imelda Staunton, who was nominated for Best Actress as an illegal abortionist named Vera Drake, in Great Britain circa 1950. She gets thrown in jail and sentenced. "Vera Drake" was an excellent movie, but everybody in it was ugly, and all the colors were extremely drab--beige, khaki, O.D., sand, brown. It was showing the bleakness of postwar Britain.


That said, I like pink, but not those ghastly fuzzy shades.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:01 AM
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63. I love Vera Drake, thanks for the context since haven't seen HP5.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:23 PM
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50. movie kicked fucking ass!
the casting was PERFECT for Umbridge--just perfect!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:25 PM
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52. My first reaction:
Hot DAMN!!! Harry's got shoulders!! He's bulked up!!! Dayum!!!

Isn't he still short? (which is OK).
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:32 PM
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55. Harry's 5'6"
but I'm 5'7", so it would work out. :D
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:40 PM
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57. have you seen this?






And I'm old enough to be his Mother. Maybe even his grandmother! :blush:

Damn. I am so going to hell.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:02 AM
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64. "man hair!" moaned by a teenager visiting. Harry Potter has man hair.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:05 AM
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65. er - "man hair" ?
- that's a new phrase...



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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:16 AM
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67. Even more amusing, it was an 18 yr old 6'6" 250lb kid.
I gave him the raised eyebrow
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:19 AM
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68. He is a very striking young man......
I can see where might appeal to lots of different individuals!

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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:12 PM
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75. Looks like the next James Bond to me.
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Divameow77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:50 PM
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84. OMG
is he 18 yet? I don't want to feel dirty about the dirty things I'm thinking when I look at that picture ;-)
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:37 PM
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88. Date of Birth: 23 July 1989
:wow:

Now I do feel dirty. I had no idea he wasn't even 18 yet. :blush: OMG am I embarassed now.

I thought he was older because of his stage role in Equus. Boy - Europe really IS different from America, eh?


Oh - and look on the bright side - only 10 more days!



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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:03 PM
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110. I was just thinking that myself.
Although I have finally come to terms with it by deciding that as long as someone is a year older than my oldest niece, I can drool over them. (That means no younger than 30 right now!) But Daniel is still a lot too young. Hell, from the first movie on, we've watched him grow up! It's almost like watching your own child flourish and grow! And it's the same with the others--Rupert is looking so good, Emma is a beautiful young lady, and the young man who plays Neville has lost weight and is starting to bloom as well. I do know that all the kids have signed on through the end of the series which makes for great continuity--imagine what they will all look like once the series ends! Sad though it might be for all HP fans, I think we've been watching the future generation of British performers get a very great start on their careers.

And looking at the other generation in the movies has been great, too: how sweet that Richard Harris's last movie was one that will be watched for years to come, as well as seeing such Grand Dames as Maggie Smith, Emma Thompson, Julie Walters and even Fiona Shaw being important in a film! And I doubt if Alan Rickman, Gary Oldman, David Thewlis and Robbie Coltrane and all the others will gain as many followers as they will from the Potter movies. It's such an excellent cast, and every one of the performers is memorable in their roles. It's even hard for me to think of Kenneth Branagh as a Shakespearean actor and not as Gilderoy Lockhart!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 09:56 PM
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115. Me too. Join the club.
I'm old enough to be his momma and then some.

Five feet six of pure adorableness!!! Woo hoo!!! And he's still a bit taller than me.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:17 AM
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72. And I Thought
"Daniel's on steroids. Look at that neck."
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:05 PM
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87. Harry may have bulked up
but Neville's becoming a hottie.

dg
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MassLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:28 PM
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54. I loved it, too
The character development made this a more absorbing movie than past ones. We're starting to see more of what's going on inside Harry and what motivates the main players. Umbridge was incredible! That whole aspect of the story had political overtones for sure.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:33 PM
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56. There were cuts fromthe movie (not including separate cuts from the book)
Cho Chang, specifically. There was some pretty rough editing, and obvious in parts that the director and/or producers made some cuts.

"Phoenix" could have run four hours, WITH AN INTERMISSION, and still been one of the most successful films of all time. In fact, if they had included the deleted scenes and non-filmed scenes, I bet they would have made A LOT more money on the theatrical release.

Hollywood: It's not intermissions we hate. Not only do we, statistically, buy more concessions during an intermission, but we don't mind intermissions or long movies at all. It's crappy movies we hate, re3gardless of length. Oh, and test audiences don't reveal how people will feel about a movie: they reveal how a TEST AUDIENCE felt about a movie.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:59 PM
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62. Just about every review I have read complained about the editing
I don't think people realize that some movies can be Box office gold or a bomb depending on the editing.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:06 AM
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66. Well it's STILL WONDERFUL -
We just wanted MORE MORE MORE -

the movie could have been much longer and still have been excellent.

I don't think they realized that.

Or maybe it's that old showbiz saying: "always leave 'em wanting more!"
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:41 PM
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58. Oh, and by the way
there is a Fantasy Literature Forum here for all HP fans.

Enjoy!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=279
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:58 PM
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61. Oooh! Thanks!
I hadn't found that one! Very cool! :thumbsup:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:30 AM
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70. they did cover most of the important parts of the book
but I missed some of the details - like no revolving doors in the Dept of Mysteries, none of the other weird rooms there, too much rapid movement from scene to scene, no swamp from the Weasley twins, the scenes with Neville's parents.... I missed those elements and some of them could have been a lot of fun for the special effects dept. But they did try to capture many of the emotional elements despite the speed of the film itself. At times it seemed like it was racing from effect to effect... My husband and I were joking that they should have had Peter Jackson do the film and then would have been more detail but a much longer film!


I liked the Cuaron movie the best, and the Goblet of FIre was quite good. I suspect I'll have to watch this one a few more times to see how I feel about it.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:28 PM
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78. I thought the effects were well used
A lot of the other films, particularly the first few, felt like one special effect after another, but a lot of the effects here seemed more intended to tie the different movies together (like the giant pendulum and the moving staircases) than intended to be visually impressive in and of themselves.

I hate it when special effects are overused. :(
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:31 AM
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73. I saw it last night in a nearly empty major theatre.
I cosplay as Kingsley Shacklebolt because he's the only respectable character I bear a resemblance to.

In the book, he was badass incarnate during the final battle, dueling two Death Eaters at once.

In the movie, he was hiding behind a rock.

I was pissed.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:56 AM
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74. OH - I almost cried in the scene...well, you know what scene
:bounce:

Yea to the movie!!

I missed some parts that I wish would have been in there (but would have made the movie waaaaay long :()

But overall, very happy w/it.

Must go see it again! :party:

Now I'm counting down to July 21st!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:42 PM
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82. Every scene was awesome, but...
The movie felt like a series of vignettes from the book. It never took time for a single breath, let alone any subtlety or detail. Would it have been such a terrible thing to add 10-15 minutes for pacing or character development?

I wonder if anyone who hasn't read the book would really be able to keep up with all that was going on...
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:48 PM
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91. This was absolutely my favorite of the five
The story is really really developing nicely.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:48 AM
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101. Hint (not a spoiler)
stay till the very end of the creits or you'll be sorry. ;)
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:53 AM
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106. shoot -
we left.

But that's okay - 'cause we're going back tonight.

My older son was away at camp and will be returning this evening - he wants to go STRAIGHT to the theatre. lol
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demobob12 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:18 AM
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102. does he die?
:shrug:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:29 AM
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103. My biggest complaint: Grumpydore
Seriously, what character does Michael Gambon think he's playing? He's more like Scrooge than Dumbledore in parts.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:45 AM
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104. i dunno - I think it's just that
he's not Richard Harris - it's always hard to change actors.

I liked him better in this one than the previous ones - so maybe he's growing on me.

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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:54 PM
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108. ONE question for those who have seen it --
PLEASE tell me the Weasley twins get to do their thing in the movie! This was my favorite potter book because of those two -- *fingers crossed*.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:03 PM
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109. They get to do their thing. But everybody else got their parts cut out.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:16 PM
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111. well then how in heck does that scene work?
Don't tell me -- I have to see it this weekend! Thanks! I was going to get annoyed if they didn't let the twins cut loose.

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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 04:28 PM
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113. I agree...FANTASTIC!!
There were a few things I thought they needed to include, but the story was cohesive and easy to follow this time. I was really impressed with it. Those kids are incredible. And my Weasley Twins were FABULOUS.
Delores Umbridge. I liked the arch about her evil. Did she think that leaving evidence of her terrible behavior wasn't going to get her into trouble? Scarring kids is not something parents are going to easily forgive.
Lucius and Bellatrix were WONDERFULLY EVIL. EXACTLY what I had envisioned when reading the book.
IT was a wonderful 2 hours, 18 minute escape from reality.
Duckie
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