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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:03 PM
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Such Anti-Gay Bias On American Idol *SPOILER*
Danny Noriega got kicked off in favor of Chackezie (or however you spell his name).

First of all, Danny was a much better singer than Chackezie, and much more entertaining.

Secondly, yeah, he was flaming, but that just added to his overall entertainment value. Plus, he could sing. So people comparing him to Sanjaya are way off base. Sanjaya couldn't sing, which is what made him such a curiosity.

But this guy could actually belt it out.

Such a shame.

I have no doubt that anti-gay bias played a part in this.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:08 PM
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1. really?
really you not only watch this shit but turn it into something political?

really?

dude...
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:13 PM
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2. yes, i watch it
my fiancee loves it.

and it's not hard to figure out that the guy was too outspoken for the producers to take a chance and keep him on the show. Simon, especially, hated him - even though the guy is a damn good singer with a nice voice.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:15 PM
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3. Was Donnie McClurkin a guest judge?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:19 PM
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4. On MSNBC.com today there was an article asking if people were ready for
a Gay Idol...apparently not...they pointed to Danny a video of him showing him rapping and admitting to being gay.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:24 PM
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5. I don't think that's it
The other guy is gay and he has been all over the entertainment "news" shows as being a dancer at a gay club and blah blah blah, but I think he stayed on tonight. If it was all about being gay then those two would have been off tonight I would think.

I also think that the video of that Danny from You Tube probably turned off a lot of the younger kids who vote. He is saying something like "I hope Santa goes to your house and rapes your mother".
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:14 PM
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6. David Hernandez is the former stripper from a gay club.
He made it to the top 12. I didn't know about that YouTube video, but I thought that Danny Noriega was just weird. He made that goofy gesture at Simon and just had an obnoxious attitude, IMO.

I was happy to see him go.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:56 PM
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19. it's not as obvious though.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:20 PM
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7. American Idol has had viewers voting off talented people in favor of utter wankers in the past
Nadia, the best A.I. has EVER had, by FAR, got kicked off...

Sanjaya and William.

There's nothing left needed to say. The only people who vote are prepubescent children, who often put a hairstyle over proper talent!

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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM
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15. I don't think people get voted off
I think the person with the least amount of votes don't move on. There is a difference.
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:23 PM
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8. Aw that sucks. I loved him.
I loved his cheek and his attitude. He made me laugh and DAMN but can he sing.

No matter, imo. With a voice like his, he's got places to go whether AI fans choose him or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6cnT-Mwi6A
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:25 PM
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9. TOTALLY agree with this
Simon has never hid his homophobia ("girly," etc.). When Danny came swooning out on Tiesday, I looked at Haruka and said,"Dimon's gonna hate teh arrangement... and Danny's way too gay for Simon to keep around."

I was right in both cases.

I liked Danny, and wish he was there and Cheesie was gone.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:39 PM
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10. agreed
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:46 PM
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11. So then how did the gay stripper make the top 12?
We really liked Danny, but "Tainted Love" kind of...well...blew.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:51 PM
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14. The stripper isn't gay...he works at a gay club...
...or that's the story right now.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:47 PM
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16. He's not gay?
Since when?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:19 AM
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25. since the owner of the club said he wasn't...n/t
i'm jest sayin' that's what they're sayin'.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:44 AM
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24. well i think its also that danny is far more stereotypically gay and gender deviant
most people find gender deviance 'unnatural'
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:47 PM
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12. while danny was not the best guy on the show by far
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:47 PM by Ava
he was a million times better than Chickezie imo

however, i wouldn't be sure that it is homophobia as much as people not liking the attitude he gives off (personally i think it is funny and entertaining myself)
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:50 PM
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13. I didn't read your post
but your thread title is a spoiler in itself. Geez, think a minute before you post!
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:51 PM
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17. What about Clay Aiken? I still think he is the best Idol has produced so
far. His voice is just beautiful IMO.
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gbate Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:43 AM
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29. Good point. He was always one of my favorites.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:55 PM
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18. That was soooooooo RIGGED>
there is no way that chakezie guy has more fans than danny. the producers kicked him out and they should be ashamed of themself! the producers are trying to preserve a "family friendly" facade. W/e Danny better have his own show.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:07 AM
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20. I think it proves that it's NOT rigged
Danny going further would've made MUCH more compelling television. The producers are probably really bummed he's off.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:20 AM
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21. My 8 year old just cried herself to sleep...
because Danny got kicked off of Idol. I have been hearing about almost nothing but Danny Noriega for weeks. When they announced he was gone, she burst into tears and said she would never watch AI again and that she hated Simon Cowell. I told her it really wasn't Simon's fault, that not enough of the American people voted for Danny. She then told me she hates America. Oy.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 03:11 AM
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22. I don't know. I wasn't ever THAT impressed with Danny's singing.
I thought his first two performances were at best ok. However, I did really like his arrangement of "Tainted Love". (It's still bouncing around my head now).

It would have been fun to have him around for a little while longer, but I always thought he'd end up going home sooner rather than later.

One trend I've noticed is that contestants who do trade insults with the judges do tend to go home sooner rather than later, which also does not bode well for Chikezie.
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gbate Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:07 AM
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23. Danny sucked and his schtick was getting old.
The eye rolling, hand gestures, and text-language was just annoying.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:20 AM
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26. That's not his schtick -- it's how he acts
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gbate Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:27 AM
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27. Still couldn't stand him.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:36 AM
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28. Again, I want to point out that this title is a spoiler in itself
I saw the headline before I saw the show. When it was down to Danny and Chekezie, it was obvious to me what the result would be, based on this headline.

It's stupid to put *SPOILER* in a headline that contains a spoiler.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:50 AM
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30. When Cameron was in Egypts land....let my Cameron goooooo
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:22 AM
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32. pardon my french but you're an asshole! asshole!
:P

love that move.. love him in that movie even more
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:02 AM
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31. IMHO Danny wasn't very good.
If he didn't move on to the next round it was simply because the people that vote didn't like him as much as the others.
I've never completely agreed with who has gotten voted off but I don't vote for the AI so I don't have say.
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:05 PM
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33. I actually like Chekezie...
I think he has a beautiful, soulful voice that hasn't been heard in this competition in a while. I'm biased though because every season, I yearn for another Ruben so I always root for the soulful singers. I was an Elliot Yamin fanatic during his season for that reason.

Danny's voice was okay but he never blew me away. He was fun to watch though.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:12 PM
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34. I don't watch American Idol; I have an anti-elevator-music bias.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:15 PM
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35. When Tom Waits is a contestant, I'll tune in...
nt
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