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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:33 PM
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I hope one of you electronic genuises can help me
why the fuck do manufacturers now make tunerless DVD players and DVD/VCR combos?

I bought one and didn't know it did not have a tuner until I got it home and hooked it up.

They normally don't warn you on the box that the tuner is not included. :grr:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:40 PM
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1. Tuner?
You mean like the old vcr models had before cable?

:shrug:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:43 PM
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2. the tuner controls the sound
I hook the DVD up to the stereo.

Without the tuner inside the DVD player, I get no sound from the TV from the stereo.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:45 PM
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5. Does your stereo have an AUX or DVD setting?
You probably have to swith the stereo receiver over to the input device to get the proper output.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:47 PM
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8. of course it does
Does your stereo have an AUX or DVD setting?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:53 PM
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10. Okay
so your setup has the stereo as your primary audio output, right? IOW, when you watch tv, the stereo is on so you can hear it. You have your dvd hooked into the stereo as either AUX or DVD. If you switch the stereo to the appropriate input device, you should have sound.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:20 PM
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13. UMMMM
there should be audio outputs, either stereo (white and red) or optical (the little black square thingy). DVD players don't need tuners these days.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:44 PM
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3. Because DVD players don't record.
Therefore, they don't need a tuner.

Redstone
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:45 PM
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4. however,
they used to come with them. :shrug:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:45 PM
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6. Yeah, I ran into the same thing`
So in order to run the sound through my stereo, my DVD/VCR combo runs through the OLD VCR. Very convenient. :sarcasm:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:46 PM
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7. DVD players don't generally have tuners built in.
After all, they just play DVDs, so why would they need a tuner? Some DVD recorders might have tuners built in (although I don't know of any offhand), but most will just take the signal from the television or cable/satellite source, so again a tuner isn't required.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:48 PM
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9. they USED to
I should know.

I just noticed this year that they no longer include them inside the players.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:53 PM
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11. Probably because the manufacturers decided...
...that they could afford to ignore people who still get their TV through antennas, and focus instead on the cable/satellite market. They probably save a few bucks per unit doing this, and some beancounter worked out that the cost savings would outweigh the lost revenues.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:19 PM
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12. You don't mean "modulator," do you?
The thing that allows you to hook the DVD player to the antenna/cable-TV in on your television is a modulator.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:51 PM
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14. no,
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:49 AM
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16. a tuner is used to "tune in" to a station
it is the channel changer; not the audio amplification adjuster

a DVD players that does not pass through the TV signal does not need a tuner - it just uses one source - the DVD

your problem is not that it is tunerless, but that you don't have the audio out properly connected to your tv
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:33 AM
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17. I guess they figure...
since a home with either a satellite TV receiver, a cable box or a "digital from antenna" box is running baseband video past that one tuner, putting a tuner in the VCR is a waste of money since almost no one uses it anymore anyway.

BTW, have you looked on the back of your TV? There SHOULD be yellow, red and white jacks back there--yellow is video in, red is right-side audio in and white is left-side audio in (if your TV isn't stereo there won't be a white one). If there are, go yellow on the TV to yellow out on the VCR, red on TV to red out on VCR, white (if it's there) on TV to white out on VCR. If you have an A/V receiver you've got passthrough jacks on it that have signal on them when the receiver's off--red, white and yellow passthrough to red, white and yellow on the TV.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:04 AM
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15. What you need to do is connect the appropriate cables to get the sound
I am thinking you are using the component cables to connect the video. You need some RCA cables to connect the sound.
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