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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:18 PM
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Let's say...that you are a patient/resident in an
Edited on Tue Nov-04-08 12:19 PM by Tuesday Afternoon
assisted living/rehab/nursing home type facility. You go to the Doctor and he prescribes a certain treatment for you. He writes a prescription and you are taken back to the Facility. Upon arriving your prescriptions are turned over to the Nursing Staff. An Administrative Nurse reads the prescription and then writes another prescription for a different type of treatment.

Has anything illegal or immoral or both just occured?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:19 PM
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1. It depends -- but probably not
Edited on Tue Nov-04-08 12:21 PM by LostinVA
And, it would be illegal, not immoral.

I'd trust a Nurse Practitioner who knows my health background to a doctor who doesn't any day. That's probably the situation here. The ones "on the ground" know what's up.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:19 PM
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2. Nurse4s can't do scripts
:D

:hug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:21 PM
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3. Nurse Practitioners can -- and, some nurses CAN do scripts
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:23 PM
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5. I said Administrative Nurse, if it had been a Nurse Practitioner, then
I would have said that.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:26 PM
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8. U still stand by what I said -- and, in some places, nurses can write scripts and change orders
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:26 PM
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10. I'm just a rookie
I'll learn more when my daughter becomes one :P

Well, if that's the case.. the nurse sucks! Who does she/he think he/she is?!?!?

:grr:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:27 PM
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12. Thank you for being You
:hug:
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 01:03 PM
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19. Hey wait!
Is that a cut? :D

Owie!

:*
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:21 PM
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4. Is the nurse an NP? If so, then no.
Also, depends on what drug it was and which state. Certain states allow for both PAs and RNs or BSNs to write Rxs for anything but Class 3 drugs.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:24 PM
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6. Not an NP.
I understand writing but, is this not considered Over writing a Doctor's Order?

signed: Just Wondering.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:25 PM
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7. What is the drug that the Doc wrote and which one did she write?
it may be a simple matter of generic vs. brand.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:26 PM
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9. I did not say drug...I said Treatment
as in specific treatment for a specific wound.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:27 PM
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11. Okay, but which treatment did he write and what did she change it to?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:29 PM
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14. Sorry, can not go into too much more info in a Public Forum.
What if the patient dies?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:29 PM
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15. I doubt the patient will die because of that. You can PM me the info if you want
and I'll try to help.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:31 PM
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16. meh ...
really just trying to pass time until the polls close. We live in different states any way. By the way, the patient did die.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:31 PM
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17. As a direct result of changing the meds? There's got to be more to this story.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:37 PM
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18. In my limited capacity I would say that there is a distinct possiblity
that the Treatment could have been a direct (or indirect) result. Yes. Of course there are other factors involved. I do not know what medications this patient had been (or NOT been) given.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:27 PM
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13. Yup, or a cross-med reaction
I just called my mom to make sure -- she says this is permissible in alot of places, as long as it isn't certain drugs (like you just said).
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