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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:44 AM
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What would you say to someone who said this to you?
"No matter how tolerant you are, there are people who want you dead. Repeat that to yourself a couple of times, because it's true. And then, think about what sort of actions you might base on this knowledge."

I really want to know. Context: Not being an intolerant bigot to people who's beliefs or ideas you disagree with. That is not to say that you are tolerant and don't state what you believe and call them on what you think to be their shit. I'm talking low down want them to die or be eradicated intolerance.

Anyone?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:48 AM
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1. I would avoid those people.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:22 AM
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6. The people who said it
the people who want you dead?
Or both :D
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:21 PM
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21. I would avoid the ones who want me dead

However, the mere desire on someone's part that I be dead is not a threat.

You can walk up to me on the street and say that you want me dead, and I will simply say, "I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I shall remain alive. Have a nice day."
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:12 PM
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22. Oh, I don't think it's a threat
I just think it's totally bizarre. :D
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:54 AM
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2. No idea what I'd say exactly, but...
If this person is going to let some hypothetical people who want to kill them determine ho tolerant they're going to be, they have issues.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:22 AM
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7. Clear.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:55 AM
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3. "Yes, that's true, but that doesn't mean I'm going to kill people who don't want me dead."
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:22 AM
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8. I'm not going to kill anyone
eek
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:57 AM
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4. Question is simple.
Right now...

I'd say..

What the fuck are you talking about you stupid basterd?!? You want repeat? How about dumb ass dumb ass dumb ass? What the fuck are you looking at? No, she ain't playing.. WTF you looking at?!?!?

He swings and I beat him with a stool.

Hmm... I re-read this and it ain't good.

*sigh*
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:28 AM
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9. Well, I know what I should avoid saying to you then
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:31 AM
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10. Wait a sec
Was I being intolerant?

:yoiks:
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:33 AM
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12. Put the stool down first.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:42 AM
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13. For you, ok
They will recieve other metal :D

I'm really digging old Bobby McFerren stuffs :)

:hug:
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:05 AM
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5. Those kind of people make me think
"Live and let die." I know some people hate me to the point that they'd dance on my grave. I did some "debating" with conservatives in the month before the election and a lot of them basically think I'm a commie traitor. For real. And there is nothing you can say to them or show them that will make them think any different no matter how compelling the evidence.

I'm also a trucker. People have tried to kill me before out here on the road. It seems that way anyway. What they don't understand is that most truckers walk away from even the most horrendous of accidents. Most four-wheelers don't. Most people are okay with truckers, but the ones that hate us REALLY hate us. For example, I was driving down the interstate one night doing about 60 mph. I was out in the left lane passing another truck and coming up on an overpass. Suddenly, I hear this loud bang on the top of my truck. It scared the shit out of me and I pulled over onto the shoulder of the road to get out and inspect the truck. There was an air foil that was fiberglass on the roof of the truck. Someone had thrown a large rock off of the top of the overpass. It went through the air foil and slammed into the roof of the cab making it concave. I have no doubt that whoever threw that rock was aiming for my windshield.

But, yeah, live and let die? Well, I'm not really that cold. And maybe I'm a fool, but I'd never watch something bad happen to anyone if I could do something about it. Wouldn't matter much who they were.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:33 AM
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11. that sounds hells of scary
People can be fucked up.

I think what it boils down to is I am more about working FOR what I believe in, rather than working AGAINST something else. That doesn't mean I wont, it just means that I think being reactionary and awful to people is an uphill battle. I think educating people and pushing ourselves for what we want is a better way to go. Maybe it's slower, it's harder, maybe it's even wishywashy, but I think the end result is a stronger, more solid foundation for my goals than anything achieved through nastiness, division and hate.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:48 AM
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14. That's the way to do it
You probably didn't see too much of the campaign commercials for our election up there in Canada. I've talked to people here (friends, family, co-workers) who paid attention to the election but who really aren't political people. They don't affiliate with any one party and have at times voted for Republicans. I hear the same thing from all of them: Obama just ran a much more positive campaign. McCain's tactics and commercials tended to be on the negative side and that really turned them off to him. They liked Obama's positive, upbeat message.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:51 AM
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15. I would simply agree...
I have met people who would be perfectly happy to see me dead, even though I had nothing against them.

I have no doubt there are people I don't know who if I knew them would want me dead.

It's a very mean world out there with some very mean people in it. Just because I wish no one any harm doesn't mean it will be reciprocated.

Anyway, I just keep on doing what I'm doing and don't really see that kind of thing as any more threatening than any other horrific possibility for my demise.

(Now, if someone actually and credibly threatened my life, that would be very different from some vague, existential death wish, but it only happened once that I remember, and it was a very long time ago)













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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:15 AM
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16. ??? My ideas don't require something different. I kinda expect it, in fact.
Sure, they wanna kill me. I knew about that already.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:49 AM
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17. It's Human nature I guess.
If we were all clones of the most tolerant person of all time with no difference in gender,skin

color(obviously)and the same common beliefs,we would still be at each other's throat and making

War anyway.


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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:52 AM
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18. hell, I think I probably agree with that
I don't know that I'd ever say it though.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:30 AM
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19. "I'll pray for them"
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:34 AM
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20. I'd ask for names and if he didn't have any I'd tell him to STFU.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:15 PM
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23. "shaddup and have another beer"
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