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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:25 PM
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Holy shit. My cousin committed suicide early this morning.
My sister just called--the only details we know so far are that he was pulled over by a state trooper in the wee hours of the morning (he lives in Indiana), and before the officer had even walked up to the car, my cousin shot himself in the head.

No depression that anyone knows of. No drug abuse (that we know of) or financial problems of any kind.

We're all stunned right now. No answers.

Tell your loved ones that you love them today, and hope for a better new year.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:27 PM
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1. I'm so sorry for your loss
I know first hand how devastating suicide is

:hug:
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:29 PM
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2. My condolences to you and your family
:hug: so sorry your 2009 started out this way.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:33 PM
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3. How sad.
I'm so sorry for your family.
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:40 PM
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4. Heartfelt condolences...
So sorry for your loss. My brother committed suicide years ago...
I know what you and your family are going through...

May you all find peace of mind and heart....



peace~
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:41 PM
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5. Oh god.
I'm so sorry. I'm not good at this in person, much less the tubes, but take care.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:42 PM
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6. Condolences, Shakespeare
Strength and peace for you and your family.

:hug:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:44 PM
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7. I'm so sorry.
:hug:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:44 PM
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8. Thats terrible....
That seems to always be the case, that you never know really what is going through someone's head..:hug:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:49 PM
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9. Shakes...
Sometimes there are no answers...:hug:

It is why when they say,"A suicide dies only one death, and those left behind die a thousand..."

I don't think you will ever know. I also know that sometimes it isn't depression, drugs or alcohol. Sometimes people just snap. My baby did that. Just snapped.

I am so sorry...so sorry...

Love,
Laura
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:52 PM
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11. Oh, MrsG. Thanks.
My parents are really broken up about it. They immediately packed up, and just hit the road to drive from Pensacola to Indiana.

We may never know why--and I will wish fervently that my aunt and uncle someday find peace over this.

Thank you for your kind words. I love you, too. :hug:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:51 PM
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10. So sorry
Awful.
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:57 PM
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12. That's horrible
My condolences and sympathy to his and your families.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:00 PM
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13. I'm so sorry
Sometimes there are no answers. I wish it weren't so. Safe passage to him.

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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:02 PM
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14. I'm so sorry to hear that.....
Love and peace to you and your family... :hug: :hug: :hug:
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:03 PM
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15. I'm so sorry.
:hug:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:04 PM
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16. Goodness. That's horrible.
My condolences to you and your family.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:04 PM
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17. I am so sorry for your loss
That is terrible news.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:06 PM
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18. I am very sorry for your loss.
:hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:16 PM
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19. Oh, how dreadful, my dear Shakespeare...
You bet I tell my loved ones I love them...

All the time.

My deepest condolences to you, and to his family...

And to all who know and love him...

Safe passage to him...

:hug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:19 PM
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20. I'm so sorry...
:pals:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:20 PM
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21. How awful!
:cry:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:20 PM
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22. That's awful, Shakespeare. I'm sorry.
:-(
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:21 PM
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23. We're sorry for your loss.
:hugs:
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:25 PM
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24. Oh how horrible...I'm so sorry for your loss, and my heart goes out
to you and your family.
I'm so sorry. :hug:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:32 PM
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25. I'm so very sorry for your loss, Shakes
:hug:

That's terrifying.

Wishing you and your family future peace.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:35 PM
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26. So, so sorry to hear this
:hug:

Condolences to you and your family.

:hug:
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:45 PM
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27. Oh, Shakespeare.
One of my students committed suicide over Thanksgiving break and it was hard enough. I can't imagine how devastating it would be to lose a family member that way. :hug:
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:47 PM
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28. So, sorry
:(
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:47 PM
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29. Oh, good God. I'm so sorry for you and your family.
Redstone
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:03 PM
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30. So very sorry Shakespeare.
This is a terrbile thing, my sincerest condolences to you and your family.

:hug: :cry: :hug:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:05 PM
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31. I'm so sorry.
:hug:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:10 PM
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32. ...
My heart goes out to you. You must feel quite unsettled.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:15 PM
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33. Wow. I am so sorry.
:cry: How shocking and awful for your family.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:17 PM
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34. Vibes to your family.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:25 PM
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35. I'm afraid to ask but...
Are you sure it was suicide? Did someone see the police video of the event? There are some pretty fucked up cops these days. If he were suicidal he could have done it anytime, anywhere...why then?
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:31 PM
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50. Sad, dreadful news.


Sympathy to all the family.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:29 PM
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36. Wow! I'm so very sorry.
That must be a huge shock and confusion. :(

:hug:

Is there video confirming that this is what happened? Are there witnesses? Not to try to make things complicated while your family is grieving, but are you all sure that what the cop told you is true?

I am very sorry that your family is now going through this. :hug:
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:55 PM
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37. Not yet, but apparently the cop who witnessed it is pretty broken up.
I'm sure my uncle will check everything out, but right now it looks like suicide. :-(

Thanks, Thom. :hug:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:03 PM
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38. Oh man, I'm so sorry n/t
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:04 PM
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39. ...
:hug:

I'm so sorry, for all of you.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:20 PM
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40. So sorry for your loss.
My brother committed suicide in July 2001 and we still don't know "why." He had intense self loathing and never accepted being gay. Even though people told him they loved him as he was and that it didn't matter that he was gay, HE could not accept that people loved him.

Depression is a disease. Untreated it kills just as any other disease.

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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:24 PM
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41. My sympathy to you and your family on the loss of your cousin
:hug:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:32 PM
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42. {{{Shakespeare and Family}}}
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:38 PM
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43. I am so very sorry! *hugs*
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:40 PM
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44. How terrible
I hope your parents have a safe trip to Indiana... and, as you said, somehow your aunt and uncle can find peace.

Sending thoughts, prayers and vibes for your family. :hug:
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:27 PM
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45. Update: They think he was despondent over losing his job.
My uncle told my dad that my cousin lost his job about a month ago, and had been upset about it.

The cops tried to pull him over three times (we're still not sure why, whether it was suspicion of DUI, etc.)--he stopped twice, and then took off again before the cop could walk up to the car. The third time, he used a shotgun he had in the front seat to kill himself before the cop reached the car.

Another victim of Bush's economy. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:36 PM
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47. I'm so sorry, Shakespeare. My prayers are with you and your family.
I can't imagine the shock you must be feeling. I feel for that poor cop, too.


One thing that needs to be considered in this economy is providing counseling and other emotional resources for those in your cousin's situation. I'm sorry your family has to go through this.

:hug:
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:35 PM
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46. I'm so sorry, Shakespeare
How baffling, and sad.

I second ThomCat's comments above; sounds as if it happened as the cop said, but I hope through the grief someone can make sure.

I hope your family can find some peace, and some answers.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:25 PM
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48. I'm so sorry Shakespeare
Words are inadequate at this time, I know, but rest assured that you and your family and all those who knew and loved your cousin have my deepest and sincerest thoughts, prayers, condolences and sympathies:hug::hug:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:26 PM
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49. Oh man, that is so awful.
sorry to hear this, Shakespeare
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:32 PM
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51. I'm so sorry. Condolances to you and your family.
And for that officer too.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:42 PM
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52. I am so sorry for your loss.
Sending a big hug your way, and then I'm going to go and hug my children and my wife! :hug:
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:53 PM
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53. UPDATE again: news story on my cousin's death.
:cry:

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2009/jan/01/man-shoots-self-during-traffic-stop/

Police report suicide during traffic stop

The Kentucky State Police is investigating the death of an Evansville man who they say shot himself during a traffic stop.

According to a state police report, a trooper pulled over a vehicle shortly after 4:30 a.m. today on the Pennyrile Parkway for suspicion of driving under the influence.

As the trooper called out to the driver — later identified as Michael D. Black, 28, of Evansville — over his P.A. system, he heard what he believed to be a gunshot from the vehicle.

When the trooper and additional officers approached the car, they found Black in the driver's seat.

He was pronounced dead at the scene by the Hopkins County coroner. An autopsy has been scheduled for a later date.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 12:45 AM
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59. Shakespeare ~~
so young.

My condolences to you and your family at this time. May he rest in peace.

May he know that he was loved.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 01:25 PM
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67. So sad...
Very sorry to hear this. :hug:
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:47 PM
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69. Oh, Shakespeare. That is so sad. So unbearably sad. I am so sorry for you
and your family.

:hug:
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:26 PM
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74. oh my dear, I lost my father to this dread cycle of depression/despondency
in the same fashion.

I am so sorry to hear this, my condolences to you and your family.
I will suggest now, you will remember this later, there are Survivors Groups all around the country. I attended one in Evansville when I lived there. Find one. They really help, really. Being with a group who has suffered that same loss is very consoling. It is a totally different type of grief, take it from one who knows. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:17 PM
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54. I'm very sorry for your loss.
Suicide in my family, too. It's terrible, especially when you have so little information and so many questions. I wish peace and healing to you and your family.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:20 PM
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55. My thoughts are with you and your family
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:46 PM
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56. My condolences
may your love for him and each other help you and your family through this very sad time.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 12:27 AM
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57. My condolences to you and your family.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 12:41 AM
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58. My condolences for your loss
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 12:45 AM
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60. We love you very much, Shakespeare.
Peace to you and to all who knew him.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:20 AM
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61. Thanks so much all of you for your kind thoughts--they're greatly appreciated.
It'll be a rough week for my family; my dad will be going with my uncle to identify the body (because he doesn't want him to go through that alone, and his wife just can't handle it), so I'm a little worried about him, too (my dad is 69).

Sad times, but still positive thoughts for a good new year. Thanks, y'all.
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easttexaslefty Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:29 AM
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62. in many ways that our story
no drugs, no depression that was seen by anybody, no answers. My son, Danny, seem the happy free spirited guy he always was and them he hung himself.
my sincere condolences to you and his poor family
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:34 AM
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63. God, man. That's awful. Strongest condolences. NT
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motely36 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:50 AM
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64. I'm sorry
:hug:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:50 AM
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65. I'm so very sorry.
:hug:
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 12:14 PM
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66. so sorry Shakespeare
suicide is such a tragedy . My brother in law comitted suicide several years ago and I do not think his family will ever recover fully from the tragedy of it. It is a truly horrible thing . I made a vow at that time to never depart with a loved one with out saying "I love you", and every phone conversation ends with "I love you" .

Many times I wish I had said "Mike you are such a good person and I love you for loving my sister" but it is way to late now
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:37 PM
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68. big hugs
That is sad

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:48 PM
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70. Holy shit. I am so sorry.
I hope, for your family's sake, that you get some answers.

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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:00 PM
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71. Hugs, my friend. I'm so sorry for you, him, your entire family and his.
I had a distant cousin who hanged himself two years ago and nobody knew why. He also didn't have any obvious risk factors such as drugs, recent breakup, depression/bipolar.

It's so very sad. So sorry.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:06 PM
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72. My deepest condolences
As someone who has also lost a family member to suicide, please accept my heartfelt condolences. What a a terrible tragedy. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. :hug:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:08 PM
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73. I'm so sorry, Shakespeare.
My deepest sympathies to your whole family. What a tragic shock. :hug: Life is precious and fragile. Whew.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:37 PM
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75. So very sorry
:hug:

RL
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