DU Ladies, how would you respond to this situation, how would you want the Man with you to respond..

[Pierre.Suave]

I just talked to a friend and she told me a story that happened to her last night at some local club.

She was dancing with a guy when they both decided to stop dancing for a bit and get some fresh air,anyway, as they turn around and begin walking off the floor, someone grabs the guy and holds him there, while this other guy follows her off the dance floor. Apparently it all ended thanks to her actions, not to the guy that was with her.

I told her that if I were there and that happened to me and her, I would have knocked the fucker grabbing me out and went after her to make sure she was ok, using all force necessary to ensure her safety.

Then held them there until the cops arrived...

How about you.

edit: I forgot one relevant detail, the guy following her off the floor has a known crush on her, and is creepy to begin with... She is not interested in him at all.

[PaddyBlueEyes]

1. Anyone grabs me for no reason

and restrains me...They are getting knocked the fuck out, and I am following her out the door...You are right.

[Pierre.Suave]

2. Yeah, I did not think any other reaction would be appropriate

but taking immediate control of the situation, by laying a motherfucker out...:P

[PaddyBlueEyes]

4. Now that is

Corps thinking brother!

[Pierre.Suave]

6. edit

k, that was stupid...

[PaddyBlueEyes]

7. ooooorah

Remember the pits? They are covered now.

[Pierre.Suave]

8. BOOOOOOOOO, reopen the sand pits!!!!

you saw that before my edit, :rofl:

[PaddyBlueEyes]

10. rofl

They are still open, but covered by a pavilion..I guess so the little dears, dont get sunburned...:wtf:

[Pierre.Suave]

13. Thats just wrong

I wonder who's mother complained enough to her congressman...

[PaddyBlueEyes]

15. I dont know

but Im glad it wasnt mine.....They cant even do IPT on the pavement anymore.

[Pierre.Suave]

18. Dont want to hurt anyones poor tender bodies...

[PaddyBlueEyes]

20. Its ridiculous

What's next...they getting rid of the Quarterdeck....

[Pierre.Suave]

23. Oh god

sometime I will tell you the horror story I have, I thought I was going to die that day...

I had a slight problem keeping my mouth shut...

In fact, I may have some record for the least amount of time in the Corps before getting some Office Hours...

:rofl:

[DS1]

42. what the fuck?

the sand pits or the boxing pits?

[mcctatas]

3. Why do your knee-jerk reactions of violence...

kinda turn me on

[PaddyBlueEyes]

5. mmmmm baby

:evilgrin:

[Cabcere]

9. All right, you two...

get a room! :P

And Happy Valentine's Day to you both. :hug: :hi:

[PaddyBlueEyes]

11. Thanks Cabby

and you are the 47th person to tell us that. Number 50 gets a set of Steak Knives :rofl:. Seriously though, Thanks and we hope you had a great day!

[Rabrrrrrr]

12. After the X-Files guys come to do an investigation on the unearthly way grabber guy died,

I go after the woman person.

[Pierre.Suave]

14. HAHAHA

I can always expect to get a good laugh out of your responses.

:rofl:

[drmeow]

16. As someone who used to go clubbing

all the time, my attitude is that I can't just rely on the guy I'm with to take care of me. I might not always be with a guy nor can the guy be there all the time. I'd have gone straight to the nearest bouncer and asked them to take care of it ... its their job. If my companion had done something that would have probably started a fight, he probably would have gotten kicked out meaning I would have to leave, too, or it would have left me more vulnerable.

[Pierre.Suave]

17. Not start

end.

[drmeow]

25. Perception

True but bouncers wouldn't know/care. More likely to blame "ender" - both booted.

[PaddyBlueEyes]

26. I generally agree with you

but in this case, the guy was forcibly restrained from accompanying his friend outside while another male followed her out without her knowledge. In that case, Id take my chances..

[drmeow]

27. Not clear that the creep

actually followed her out. He followed her off the dance floor. Also, she knew the creep was a problem. I just recently had a semi-similar thing happen - two creepy guys and me there with a girlfriend. We'd met some people there and asked one of the guys to escort us to our car (otherwise would have asked the bouncer) and I was aware of where creep-boys were at all times. My guess is that she didn't even get off the dance floor without knowing (and if she did, sad to say, she needs to learn to pay attention).

Also, we don't know the details of how her escort was detained and what aspect of it she took care of (was it that she'd already acted by the time the guy was able to get free or did she get the guy free?) or what she did. How big were to various players? How drunk? Lots of variables.

Further - the advantage of going through channels is that too many repetitions of the same behavior might get the perps banned, at least for a while (this is why it pays for ladies to get to know their bouncers).

Finally - the question was "DU Ladies, how would you respond to this situation, how would you want the Man with you to respond." It is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. You would behave differently. I responded how I would respond.

As for how I'd want the gentleman to behave? Try to get free, deal with the restraint however he wants to - preferably in a way that doesn't get him hurt or kicked out (that was an assault of him, not me), and ask me how I want the creep handled.

[Chan790]

36. I'll vouch for this, having been a bouncer in a rowdy DC music venue/bar.

I got paid to take only one side...that of management. Management wants me to maintain order.

That's what I did...I can respect the desire to defend a friend but all "ending" a fight will do is insure that he's not the only one being put into the floor face-first or physically-removed from the building. Throw a punch and it's a night in the DC lockup, do it on Friday night and you can expect to be there all weekend and maybe most of Monday. Trust me when I say the cops don't care how badly I manhandle you...DC's law is fairly simple in regards to ABC and disorderly conduct in establishments with liquor licenses, we're right and if I call the police, you go to jail. It's pretty-much automatic. Your side doesn't matter, nobody cares, you just get arrested. End of story. I don't have to be to work until 7PM so I've got nothing better to do all afternoon and I got paid for my time if I had to testify in court...I always show-up.

On the other hand, as long as you're the one being assaulted and not assaulting, you've got nothing to worry about from me. I knew everything going on in that space and when I didn't, that's what the monitored security cameras and radios are for. We worked in teams of 6+ and there wasn't a square inch of that venue that didn't have eyes on it at least 8x a minute, we like to deal with problems before they become problems...so by the time asshole grabs you, I'm probably already busting through the crowd to drop him. Yell, hoot, holler, make a ruckus to get our attention...as long as you're not fighting, you're going to be fine. When I break it up...keep your hands at your side and explain calmly what the situation is...we don't want the kind of trouble that creepy guy causes either. I have no problem checking on her well-being. That's not the sort of crap I want going on and it's not the sort of rep that the management wants for the venue.

[Pierre.Suave]

40. Good thing for you

no Marines ever came in there and got fucked with, I can guarantee in the middle of that if someone ELSE comes at me, they are ALSO getting knocked the fuck out, who ever they are.

[Chan790]

46. They did...

dropped one of them like a sack of taters. Generally, Marines tended to be on their best behavior though. They don't go looking for fights and had the sense to let me do my job.

[flvegan]

19. Luckily, nobody grabs me and holds me somewhere.

However, in this scenario, if they did I guess it would depend on the guy holding me. If I noticed that he was detaining me so that someone else could follow a woman outside, my forehead is going to splatter whatever nose he has all over his face. Then it's Terry O'Reilly time.

[Pierre.Suave]

21. Exactly

that just has bad ending all over it. I honestly see no other response as being adequate.

[PaddyBlueEyes]

22. See great minds think alike

!

[amitten]

24. I would have laid the guy out on my own, thanks.

That's why God created testicles.

On Edit: For kicking.

[drmeow]

28. Oh, for the record

I'm a little over 5' 2" and once screamed down a 6'+ ska skinhead type for acting out on the dance floor much to the amazement of my 6"+ escort who (along with an army ranger buddy of mine) thought he was going to have to jump in to save me. Guy was not paying enough attention where his arms and legs were flying and almost hit me and a friend at which point I poked him and gave him a "talking to" (the look on his face after he turned with a snarl and had to look down ... relatively far down ... was priceless) after which he came about as close to scuffing his feet and saying "aw shucks, Ma'am" as anyone I've ever seen. I can be pretty tough when I need to. There is a good chance that I would have taken on the muscle doing the detaining myself. What I say I'd do and what would actually happen in the situation are not necessarily one and the same.

[Skittles]

29. I'd kick the grabber's ass and the ass of the guy I was dancing with

and your ass too, just for fun

[PaddyBlueEyes]

30. I'd also call some of my boys....

[LeftyFingerPop]

31. I would win him over by gentle reasoning and persuasion.

I would ask him how his day had been, and why he felt the need to lash out in such a harsh manner.

Sorry to disagree here guys, but taking the high road always is better.

[Pierre.Suave]

32. While the other guy follows the girl out the door?

Seriously?

[DS1]

44. Don't question the master of taking the high road

:rofl:

[LeftyFingerPop]

45. Can't believe the gullibility...

:rofl:

[PaddyBlueEyes]

33. Nope Sorry Bro

Once the young lady is outside, with the other guy in tow. Thats an issue. If the guy was simply looking to talk, why is the restraint by his buddies necessary?

[LeftyFingerPop]

34. I was just joking Paddy...

:P

[PaddyBlueEyes]

35. sorry for overreacting

just through work and life experience...that scenario tends not to end well..

[LeftyFingerPop]

43. I'll get serious for a moment and tell you my thoughts...

There have been plenty of times in my life where I have had to get physical. Some of those times worked to my advantage, and some did not.

Someone very wise once told me that no matter how tough you are, there is SOMEONE within a few hundred feet of you that is bigger, stronger, a better fighter, and with a harder head.

A person in your profession would understand the following much better than me...that it is always better to try reasoning when possible...to get out of the situation and make you and yours safe.

Unfortunately, reasoning does not work in some situations.

:hi:

[PaddyBlueEyes]

47. Understood Bro

Believe me. Id rather talk my way out of something than engage in hand to hand combat..(stop laughing, mcctatas) But that is one of those times. I didnt initate physical contact and they are detaining me in order to gain access to my female friend who is alone. Thats when its time, not to be nice.

[LeftyFingerPop]

49. Understood and Agree. n/t

[LeftyMom]

37. I think we can file this under "things LM does not have to worry about."

:shrug:

[Pierre.Suave]

38. I am sure

no one will grab him in an attempt to restrain him.

You are lucky.

[ThomCat]

39. Seriously. I don't think anyone is going to stop flvegan.

He's just pick the guy up and toss 'em out of the way to get to you. Problem solved. :P

[PaddyBlueEyes]

48. when your boyfriend is the caucasian hulk

there is whoooole lot YOU dont have worry about! :rofl:

[mdmc]

41. i have rhumatoid arthritis so I couldn't "do" anything physical..

but that is just me..