L O S T

[graywarrior]

Tonight

Follow The Leader

Jack and Kate are at odds over the direction to take to save their fellow island survivors, and Locke further solidifies his stance as leader of "The Others."

[charlie and algernon]

1. is tonight the finale?

[graywarrior]

2. No, two episodes for next week's season finale

[charlie and algernon]

3. ah ok, cool

[merh]

4. Already heavy stuff in this episode

geeeze

[charlie and algernon]

5. "I watched them all die"

:wow:

And the road to the season finale has begun...

[charlie and algernon]

6. Phil is fucking dead

how dare he! :grr:

[myrna minx]

7. I missed the last minute...can someone update me with the minute

before Locke said that he was that man. What were Locke and Aplern looking at? Stupid phone call.

[charlie and algernon]

8. He told richard that he has to tell the other locke he's got to die to return

they were looking at other locke stumbling out of the jungle.

[myrna minx]

10. Thanks!

You miss a minute, and you're "Lost". LOL.

[question everything]

45. delete

[merh]

9. Locke had Alpern follow him in to the jungle to tell Alpern

what he needs to say to "that man".

Then Locke wants Alpern to take him to Jacob.

[myrna minx]

11. Thank you.

Why do people call me during this show?! :hi:

[merh]

12. I don't answer the phone

voice mail needs to serve its purpose during this show

:hi:

[slay]

62. I turn off my phone during Lost

Seriously. Well, the ringer at least. :)

[Fleshdancer]

13. That better not have just happened

PLEASE tell me Sayid stepped in before anything happened to Freckles. :scared:

[Pacifist Patriot]

14. Not liking this turn of events if that's the case.

This one is quite the mind twist. Then again, aren't they all?

[Fleshdancer]

15. this episode is far more intense than I expected

I can't believe we still have 15 minutes left.

[omega minimo]

54. Sign of X-Files quality show: time distortion, extended "hour"

[Fleshdancer]

16. New thoughts on Locke....

Who knew he would turn into such a populist leader? I think this is the Others "change we can believe in" my friends. :rofl:

[SoxFan]

70. !

[Fleshdancer]

82. Awesome pic!

Was he nice in person?

[SoxFan]

105. According to Mrs. SoxFan...

He was as nice as one could ever hope for. TOQ genuinely seems to appreciate his fans and his rise to prime-time stardom.

[graywarrior]

17. Man oh man, and after next weeks finale there are 16 more episodes!

[charlie and algernon]

18. man, the originial losties are sooo far apart right now

we've come a loooooooooooong way from when they were all on the beach together. Now half are dead or in some weird other dimension, and the main losties are seperated by 30 years and now in enemy camps opposing eachother. This show is coming closer and closer to Lord of the Flies.

[graywarrior]

20. That hydrogen bomb---why is that so significant and who/where is Jacob?

[charlie and algernon]

21. the bomb will supposedly destroy whatever is below the Swan station

erasing everything that's happened since.


Who knows who or where Jacob is. The Television without pity people are speculating Claire will be involved somehow. I'd hate to think that Locke would kill Claire. Next week is going to be epic.

[graywarrior]

23. Jack is such an airhead

Thank god for Sayid.

[charlie and algernon]

26. well it looks like Kate is going to rally the losties to stop jack

Yeah, I don't think Jack has clue what he is doing.

[graywarrior]

27. What about that map that Sawyer supposedly drew?

That notebook looks familiar.

[charlie and algernon]

34. no idea

he may have just drawn random notes just so they could get off the island.

[graywarrior]

37. I wonder if it's this one.

[charlie and algernon]

41. hmm, might be

does sawyer know where the temple is though?

[DS1]

74. That's a pretty damn artistic map for someone who's just been beaten

:D

[graywarrior]

90. But it's Sawyer/James/LaFleur....sigh

[Javaman]

35. Sawyer is a con man, he drew them a map to smokie LOL nt

[hibbing]

19. my usual dumb question

Hi,
Well, once again I'll have to watch it again. Was that the young Widmer that captured Jack and Kate? Glad the innertubes has the episodes online.

Peace

[charlie and algernon]

22. yup

[madinmaryland]

24. Well, if you would FREE THE DUCK, then it would have the chance to get L O S T!!!!

[graywarrior]

25. Ellie is pregnant. Did you see Witmore touch her stomach?

I'll bet she's pregnant with Penny.

[madinmaryland]

28. The DUCK is pregnant?

:wtf:

I'm confused!

[graywarrior]

29. I pregnated the duck

[madinmaryland]

32. Well at least it wasn't Midlo. Or was it??

:hide:

[graywarrior]

33. We did a threesome, like Sawyer, Jack & Kate

[MilesColtrane]

59. I got the impression that Daniel Faraday was Ellie and Widmore's kid.

[slay]

63. You are correct - at least that's what it looks like - however

doesn't mean Penny isn't his sister - or that Charles didn't get some other chick pregnant later (earlier? so hard to tell with all the time travel.. heheh).

[graywarrior]

67. Yeah, but Penny is Widmore's kid, therefore, she could be ellie's also

[merh]

73. Remember that Ellie visited Penny and Charlie at the hospital

waiting room after Ben shot Desmond. She said she felt connected to Desmond because he came to her with a message from her son.

[soleft]

101. Ben said Whitmore had a child with an outsider

So I don't think Ellie is Penny's Mom.

[graywarrior]

30. One more thing....Jacob to Locke "Help me". WTF?

Remember that? When Locke could see Jacob and Ben could not in the cabin?

[fujiyama]

31. My head is spinning

God this show is absolutely INSANE!

I think we're going to be watching an amazing two hours next week. I can't believe we will have only ONE more year of LOST left. God, I hope they answer all the questions everyone still has...

[graywarrior]

36. I won't sleep tonight

I never sleep after watching that show. Jeeze, I'm so impressionable.

[Jade Fox]

38. Can't wait till this hits the west coast airwaves....

Glad to hear Sayid is back! :loveya:

[Fleshdancer]

39. I'm re-watching this online tomorrow

I rate these episodes by how much my head hurts after watching them. This was definitely a good episode.

Soooo....

Should we have the "Locke and Jacob" talk now or should we wait a day or so?

[Wetzelbill]

40. LOST just sucks

5 minutes in and it has me mindfucked already. I don't know why I do this to myself, the anticipation kills me.

[Wetzelbill]

42. Alright dude, we're from the future

Hugo just caved, lol.

[wickerwoman]

61. You fought in the Korean War?

There's no such thing?

Classic Hurley. B-)

[Robbien]

43. Why the heck would Locke want to kill Jacob?

Is Jacob not the power behind the island?

How does one go about killing a being which does not have a body?

[Fleshdancer]

55. My thoughts on that....

If this is Locke's mission (and he's not saying this just to screw with Ben's head) then I think this is what Jacob wants him to do. Jacob told Locke "help me!" when they met, so I think Locke needs to set Jacob free somehow.

Jacob didn't appear to Ben, but he appeared to Locke so perhaps there is a physical form after all. :shrug:

[Wetzelbill]

65. Maybe in some way Jacob is suffering

and he needs to be killed. It sets him free? Then Locke officially takes over? Hard to say. I think Locke sees him in a way that nobody ever has. That freaks Ben and Richard out.

[Robbien]

78. Taking it one step further

Jacob (maybe the previous island leader) is being held hostage by ????. More than likely Richard.

Up till recently Richard seemed to be a good guy. All knowing, all seeing. But we are finding out that many of Richard's actions have been directed by Locke's time tripping. Richard may be the evil from which the island needs to be saved.

[omega minimo]

44. PST no spoilers please. What did it say in Miles notebook that his mother read?

:yourock:

[question everything]

46. Miles or Farraday?

Farraday's book had a note from his mother about trusting him and supporting him - something like that.

[omega minimo]

49. thank you you're right it was Farraday, Daniel and spelled out later by Eloise

:hi:

[question everything]

47. Why would they show Locke three years earlier, when he stumbled out of the jungle?

When he first showed up, Richard commented that last time he saw him was three years ago, so why flip back three years just for Richard to pull the bullet out and to give him a compass?

[Robbien]

50. In the episode where Locke was time tripping

we were led to think that the Island told Richard to show up in the nick of time to pull the bullet out of Locke's leg and tell Locke he would have to die. Now we know that it wasn't the Island but Locke himself.

[omega minimo]

48. :29 "Who is that man, John?"

:bounce:

[Robbien]

51. For once Ben is not telling lies

he is too busy being totally confused.

[omega minimo]

52. :38 Say- fucking - id!! Best since X-files, Great acting, Juliet is a sap, oh well.......

:thumbsup:

Darius "Locke" (Chris Carter) is excellent.

:kick:

[omega minimo]

53. good ending. Why/how are there two "Richards"? Why does ABC follow with the sucky cop show?

:wow:

[Fleshdancer]

56. It's Richard from two different time periods

Richard 1 is in 1977

Richard 2 is in whatever their present is...2004 I think?

[omega minimo]

57. .

:wow:

[slay]

64. My impression is

Richard is timeless. He never ages, and he's always there. Perhaps trapped there - maybe related to Jacob, who knows I don't know any spoilers so is all guess work but Richard is some kind of constant (and evidently Desmond Hume is too so I expect we'll be seeing more of him - his dreams of the island, pressing the button all those years, helping even after he had left). Very interesting. Wonder if the 2 part finale next week will be by the writing team of Lindelof and Cuse. They write my favorite eps usually. Can't wait! :bounce:

*on edit: I just looked it up and sure enough next week's two parter IS written by Lindelof and Cuse! Now I'm super-excited!! :)

[question everything]

102. To show us "Michael" in a new role

:shrug:

[Duer 157099]

58. Is Jacob = "Management"?

This is somewhat Carnivalesque.

Also have noticed 2 Brotherhood actors in this now. Whatever happened to that series anyway?

[slay]

60. You know, for such a long awaited Richard Alpert episode...

we sure didn't learn much of shit about Richard! Not even a clue as to where he buys his eyeliner! :rofl: Great ep though. Really sets up the tension for next weeks 2 hour season finale. Can't wait - but will be a longggggg 7 or 8 months til the final season starts in 2010. :(

[graywarrior]

66. 7 or 8 months?

Fuck, I hope I live that long

[MorningGlow]

68. Best Damon Lindelof quote EVAR

"We have to make the show for the hardcore fans who care about the numbers, but we also have to make it for my mom, who just wants Sawyer to take his shirt off."
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Q&A here: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b122630_lost_redux_who_causes_incident.html?utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_kristin

[graywarrior]

69. Ha ha ha ha ha!

Sawyer could make a rock all horny.

[NJmaverick]

71. Was I the only one to be pissed off when Kate got into the sub

you have one of the rare functional relationships with Sawyer and Juilet and along comes the one that is sure to break them up and create nothing but angst.

[graywarrior]

72. I was glad

There is an issue there that needs to be resolved between Sawyer and Kate

[NJmaverick]

75. I see Kate as a walking train wreck. Anyone that gets involved with her

tends to regret it. Let her team up with Jack, as they are both equally messed up. Sawyer and Juilent have found some happiness and Kate will only ruin that. It's not like Sawyer will find happiness with Kate. She is like a flame for moths, attractive but deadly.

[Javaman]

84. I agree she's the total trainwreck...

She is the cute gal with a great smile but has a history that will follow her till the day she dies.

I equate her with Syid. They are similar in the respect that they both have tragic histories. Syid, as much as I really enjoy his character, I think he will die.

Kate, I think will meet the same fate, sadly.

But remember this: Kate has more to gain by history NOT being reset. So that will make for some truly interesting interactions from this point on.

[NJmaverick]

89. I thought about that. You have to figure her and Locke both would not be happy

with a do over.

[graywarrior]

88. Maybe Sawyer and Juliet are Kate's parents.

[NJmaverick]

93. According to the LOSTpedia that's not possible

<<Born in rural Iowa in 1977, Katherine Anne Austen was raised by her mother, Diane, and Sam Austen, whom Kate believed to be her biological father. However, her actual biological father was a man named Wayne>>

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kate_Austen

[The2ndWheel]

76. Follow the leader

Alpert and Ben followed Jacob. Alpert and Ben followed Locke. Is Locke following Jacob("Help me")? Jack followed Faraday. Eloise followed Jack. Eloise followed Faraday. Alpert followed Jack. Alpert followed Eloise. Sayid followed Jack. Chang followed Faraday. Phil followed Radzinsky. Sawyer wished he had followed Juliet onto the sub in 1974. Juliet was glad she followed Sawyer and stuck around the Island for 3 years. Baby Miles and his mother followed the orders of Chang. Jack seems to wish he had followed Locke all along.

Good to see an answer to how Alpert knew that Locke had the bullet in his leg by the plane. Ben said dead is dead, so Locke must be dead. So dead Locke told never dead Alpert to save living Locke who was a few feet away so that he could tell living Locke to die in order to get everyone back on the Island so that they could be the cause of their own suffering and all die while never dead Alpert watched it all happen only to find out that dead Locke was going to be a problem and that Ben killed living Locke only to not really kill him because dead Locke had to be there to save himself from dying so that living Locke could die before never dead Alpert actually took the bullet out of living Locke's leg.

[hedgehog]

77. How old is the compass, and where did it start out?

If Richard gives Locke a 3 year old compass, then Locke gives Richard a three year old compass to give Locke, then it repeats....

Any other Trekkies remember the antique eye glasses Mccoy bought Kirk?

[MorningGlow]

94. Ow. Brain cramp. n/t

[bikebloke]

79. How many episodes are there in Season 5?

I wait to watch Lost on DVD. Is it a regular season length?

*My arm keeps getting twisted until I'm forced to click on these Lost threads to drown in spoiler morass.

[slay]

95. Only 17 eps in Season 5 - same for season 6

Was going to just be 16, but the writers strike forced a shortend 4th season adding 1 more ep to both seasons 5 and 6. Judging by the excellent ratings Lost has been getting this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see them lengthen season 6 or to fund a season 7. Right now the show is set to end next season with season 6. :(

However - next week's is a 2 hr season finale that should be epic! Then you are free to watch. :)

I recommend you just watch them on ABC's website rather than waiting for the DVD's. Last year they had every ep up til or through the finale. Not sure bout this year since they are available on the torrent sites i haven't checked abc's website for awhile.

Enjoy - easily the best season so far!

[bikebloke]

96. Only 17 - I guess I'll watch it anyway.

;)

These shortened seasons allow me to catch up on my various series. I watch two shows on Fridays nights, then another on Sunday evenings. And that's one episode a week for each one. The next Lost DVD release is 18 December. By then the spoilers I've been forced to read will have been forgotten.

[slay]

104. I watch Dollhouse friday nights and it's gotten really good

so i'm sure it will be cancelled. doh. I don't know how you have the patience to wait til Dec 18th for Lost. There is no way possible I could do that. I am a true hopeless Lostie - and loving it. :)

[Fleshdancer]

80. I have a question:

HOW in the world would you detonate a hydrogen bomb from the 1950's? It's not like there's a big red button on Jughead that Jack can just push. Do you hit it with a big stick? Do you light dynamite underneath it? What do you do if you're stupid enough to want to detonate it? :shrug:

[Javaman]

85. Like most nukes...

they usually have a fail safe detonator. Meaning, even on air dropped nukes, as Jughead appears to be, you usually need two people to activate the initiator aka to arm it. Once armed, it's live and from that point on, it can be, in this case, dropped.

Unless of course, since the bomb didn't explode the first time around, logic would dictate that it's technically still armed. :scared:

And as per tests in the nevada desert, above ground detonations appear to do more damage, so a proximity fuse is employed. When it reaches a certain altitude, boom.

So several things are going on here, either 1) it wasn't armed 2) it was armed and the detonator failed 3) all of the above plus the proximity fuse failed. That's basically a catastrophic failure. At which point a retrieval team goes in to find it. (probably were all the military garb the others are wearing came from, or my theory, the others infiltrated the US Army to prevent the bomb from detonating)

Anyway, my other theory is: the bomb has a breach and is "leaking". If this is an actual hydrogen bomb, an atomic detonation is required for the hydrogen end of the bomb to take effect. So what exactly is "leaking?
I think what will happen is when they try and detonate the bomb, it doesn't go off in the traditional fashion but instead sends out an electromagnetic burst, basically frying all electronics and electrical based "things" aka the energy source under the Swan.

[kid a]

81. AVOIDING this thread like the plague!!!

I just got hooked on LOST last week and finished season one last night!!

Gonna watch season 2 opener tonight and I don't want to know anything!@!
=)

[myrna minx]

83. In my opinion, season two was very disappointing, because season one was so amazing.

The subsequent seasons do become addictive, so don't give up, if you find season two a little flat. :hi:

[Javaman]

86. Spoiler!!! they all get eaten by crocodiles!!!

:rofl:

[graywarrior]

87. They find the one armed man

[The2ndWheel]

91. I remember having to wait an entire summer for season 2 to start

Lucky. For months all I had was an image of Jack and Locke looking down a hole with a broken ladder. What the hell is down there!!! As of right now, that was my 2nd favorite season finale.

[graywarrior]

92. Locke has the best WTF smile ever

That one with the orange wedge in his teeth makes me laugh and gives me the creeps at the same time

[Jade Fox]

97. I love Sayid, but.....

could he go for a couple of minutes without killing someone?

I feel like his character has devolved into a mindless killer. :(

[graywarrior]

98. Not mindless

He has reasons

[Jade Fox]

99. Yes, he does have reasons...

Still, where is the soul-searching, would-be-reformed Sayid of earlier LOST seasons?

[graywarrior]

100. He got used by Ben as a hired killer after being told it was the only way to save his friends on the

island. Ben has so much bad karma.

[question everything]

103. Is the conclusion, then, that all the plane survivors

were once on the island, and died, and then landed again to... what, exactly?

And where are Bernard and Rose and the other survivors who were on the beach?