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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:16 PM
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'God' is just the English word for 'Allah.'
I just felt compelled to remind everybody of that little fact.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:16 PM
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1. Sez who?
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:17 PM
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2. and allah is the Muslim word for god

all decendents of adam

DDQM
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:19 PM
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3. Arabic, actually.
There is no muslim language.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:20 PM
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4. Yahweh is the Hebrew word for Creator re: God
our "friend" BYTES will be very disappointed to hear that.

thanks, Dr. Weird. :yourock:
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:21 PM
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6. Actually * is the Hebrew name for *
never spoken, never written
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:24 PM
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8. hmmm...
i was taught that Yahweh was the Hebrew word for Creator hence God--
learn something everyday, thanks much appreciated.

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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:26 PM
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10. Only in the very Orthodox
In my reform synagogue we did write it.

If you were to pick up a Hasid paper you'd see G*d all over.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:34 PM
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12. That's true.
Although writing the word God on the internet is ok. I was taught the thinking behind G-d was so that someday when the paper ended up in the trash, it wouldn't be like trashing God (same with setting the prayer books on the floor). Here on the internet, I see not problem writing God because it doesn't really go anywhere.

As for the supposed name of God, there are three possible connotations. In the Torah, the little pronunciation key symbols aren't there (just a little lesson for you non-Jews out there :) ), so we aren't really sure how to pronounce it anyway. In the really olden days, the high priest said it once in the Holy of Holies on Yom Kippur while nobody else was present. It hasn't been spoken with any authority since the fall of the Temple. Furthermore, there are three possibilities of what the pronunciation is. One of them is the words "I am what I am". That would mean the exchange should read as follows:

Moses: "What is your name?"

God: "I am what I am".

Therefore, it might not really be a name at all.

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INTELBYTES Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:39 PM
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15. It's another way to say Jehovah.
yahweh

n : a name for the Old Testament God as transliterated from the Hebrew YHVH
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:46 PM
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18. i'd like it if we could
finish our discussion of God etc in GD.

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INTELBYTES Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:52 PM
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22. buddhamama, I appreciate a great debate, even a good argument...
but they always have to pull out the "freeper card" when they don't agree. I don't want to play that game. My voting record speaks for itself. I'll hold my ground on my opinions and have fun tweaking others while doing it, but if their only comeback is accusing you of being a "freeper" well, I'll pick up my toys and go elsewheres on the DU.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:54 PM
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23. Nobody's called you a freeper.
Now go back to that thread and finish the discussion.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:59 PM
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24. i never refered to you as a freeper
our debate ended when you told me i was wrong when i stated that Jews, Christians and Muslims all worshiping the same God. it bugs me a bit that you walked away, especially since i am not wrong.

i may be a buddhist but i am not ignorant of different theologies/religions.
i was born and raised in a Catholic family, attended church every Sunday and went to religious schools for my education; where btw, theology was a required subject.



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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:20 PM
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5. Actually...
It's the arabic word for "the god" not just "God"

and "Lah" was the name of a particular arabic deity worshipped on the arabian peninsula prior to islam. Mohammed just scooped him up and made him his own.

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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:22 PM
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7. You are correct--Christian conservatives are simply WRONG (as
usual) when they say that Allah is not the same as the Christian God. They are one in the same. Also, "YWH" translated as Yaweh, Jehova, or "the Lord" in the Old Hebrew Bible is the same God.

Now, Shiva or Ganesh, there you ARE talking about a different tradition and concept.

Strange that the three religions with the same God are the ones most at each other's throats.
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INTELBYTES Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:25 PM
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9. Hey, I'm famous now!!
Thanks DrWeird, for pulling me from the G.D. to the Lounge. I could have done it myself, but I see that you have a "cross to bear" (as it were) about our conversation in the G.D.

Although I think you may be breaking a rule or two by doing that, I don't mind the infamy.

Autographs will be given in the foyer.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:31 PM
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11. You have an odd interpretation of the rules.
You read a rule that says not to carry over flame fests from other threads and interpret this rule as: don't start a discussion on a spin off topic that had nothing to do with the actual topic of the original thread. And then you show up to try and start a flame fest.

And then you completely ignored that rule about not posting bigotted comments.

Have you actually read the rules?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:36 PM
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:37 PM
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14. There you go again.
When have Iraqis ever bombed an airplane?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:46 PM
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:48 PM
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20. Iraqis are trying to kill us?
Seems to me that we went over there and started killing them first.

So answer my question, when did Iraqi terrorists ever board a plane with a bomb?
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INTELBYTES Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:05 PM
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26. sshhhh....Dr. Weird....
(We had to kill them because we are friends with the Saudi's and couldn't kill them instead.)
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:50 PM
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21. That is one of the most vile...
things I have ever seen posted on this forum.

Not liking people trying to kill Americans may not make you a biggot...but referring to people from teh Middle East as "people wearing towels on their heads" sure as hell does.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:43 PM
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16. are all Muslims the same in your eyes?
since you claim Christianity as your religion,
then Bush* and you are the same too, correct?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:03 PM
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:16 PM
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28. Racism runs deep
in Amerikka.
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:45 PM
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17. And "Bush" is the Universal Word for Mother Fucking Maniac -eom
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:17 PM
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27. It'd be better to place no label on deities...
Then we wouldn't fight over them so much.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:19 PM
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29. whatever...
...it's all fairy tales and voodoo, period.
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