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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 12:52 PM
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Bush Critisizm is not Hatred - What does it really mean?
Honestly, I don't know the man personally nor any of the people in his administration.

Why would I HATE any of them personally?

If critisizm is now orwellian for hatred, thanks to the republican Rovian Tactics of division and stereotyping for simplistic conservative cloned minds (I mean those conservatives who eat the Bush amdinistration party line without even stopping to swallow), then any critisizm of the left or democrats is also hatred. Rovian tactis are circular in nature in the ideological realm.

The right has tried to make this a one-way street, which has not been too effective in my POV since they spent the 1990's perfecting Clinton hatred and Liberal Bashing.

What exactly is Bush Hatred?

Is this statement Bush hatred? -- The American people were manipulated into the Iraq war by the Bush administration.

How about this one? -- George Bush is a man bent on his own narrow agedna driven by ideology that got us into the Iraq war.

Another one? The Bush administration's push for the 400 Billion dollar Medicare reform bill, helps to privatize medicare and give the pharmecutical industry more power over perscription drugs.

Here's one? Bush is EVIL, and likes to kill babies, and take a hammer to pretezels before he eats them (this one is just stupid).


No; Real hatred, involves personal vendetta's and irrational fears. Some of us have personalized Bush and his administration to were it becomes hatred. This is what many freepers, Republicans, and conservatives did with Clinton.

I don't HATE anybody in the Bush administratoin, but is it hatred when in reality we have a Patriot Act that can strip away are civil Rights, reality when pre-war intelligance was manipulated to FEAR the american populace into war, IN reality we have war profitering going on with Haliiburton, reality when 27 pages from the congressional 9/11 report that are secret becuase of Saudi Arabias involvment in 9/11 and their connnections to BUSHCO, reality when Bushco is stripping away the boundries between government and christianity, reality when they have started to privitize medicare, reality when the only winners in the Bush economy are the Rich, and on and on and on.....

No, what it really means is that those of US, any American that exersices their right of free speech and critisizm in these Rovian/Orwellian times, has a better grasp on Reality then those Americans whom simply bury their heads up their assess becuase it's to painfull to grasp this reality or willingly pursue their narrow minded right-wing agenda over that of the consitution, the Bill of Rights, and simple moral and ethical behavior.

When the right brands us as Bush Haters, all it shows is that they Fear those of us whom can understand the regressive Reality that they created and continue to support.

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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 02:10 PM
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1. You're wrong...
it is hatred and and it's justifiable hatre.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 02:14 PM
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2. you took the words right out of my mouth
hatred can be justifiable. in Bush's case, it is.

the whole discussion about "hatred" is a red herring, to divert the discussion away from the real issues and instead focus on personalities and subjective bullshit. think of it as a cleverly disguised personal attack.

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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 03:24 PM
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4. Exactly, branding the left "Bush Haters" is a red herring
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 03:26 PM by Homer12
That's why a disntiction has to be made between personally disliking the "Human-Being', and the "Policies", and finally "the Realities" of what these policies have created.

The right is trying to blurr the lines between critisizm by using the polerizable bait of hate.

Hating will get tthe left nowhere, except in the trap the right has put themselves in since the 1990's and the spitefilled win-at-all-costs Gingrich revolution that burned nearly all the bridges of ethical political discourse in this country.
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Kerridwyn Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:54 AM
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5. Agree
I agree that hate gets us nowhere; certainly, we shouldn't base our actions or behavior on hate.

On the other hand, hate is an emotion which arises. The point isn't not to feel it - it's kind of hard for many of us NOT to hate Bush! - but not to base our actions on it.

As you say, it's more constructive to criticize his policies and actions than to attack him as a person, however we feel about him.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 02:55 PM
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3. I don't hate Bush I hate his issues.
It is not a question of if you hate Bush it is just that I hate his issues.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 09:33 PM
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6. I think its reasonable to hate
despotism and treason in all forms. Remember, there was a time when presidents used to be elected - not appointed by a majority of conservative Supreme Court justices. I cant think of anything to like about this administration. Hating Bush is patriotic in a larger sense. For me it is a good starting point.
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AtTheEndOfTheDay Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:43 PM
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7. It's hatred
In my case. I hate the bastard through and through. The mass murdering son of a bitch
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:31 PM
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8. In view of how little has changed since this thread started
It merits more attention. I really like some of the points raised in these comments.
Hatred of the Chimp and his handlers, being so corrosive, it is better ( mental health wise ) to not dwell too deeply in it.
But no president and presidental junta in my living experience has deserved it more.
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