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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:05 PM
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SEIU wants talks on outsourcing (union)
As many decry the offshore outsourcing of U.S. jobs, one U.S. union leader is about to approach outsourcing companies directly to discuss ways to support global living standards.

There's always going to be someone who's going to try to find people to work for less and we need some forces, besides minimum wage, that set the bottom,"

Stern says the first step to creating a global union is to forge relationships with unions in other high-wage countries like Britain and Scandinavia.


http://dailynews.muzi.com/ll/english/1357539.shtml
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dcfirefighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:34 PM
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1. What sets the bottom
is a better choice than the one offered by that employer.

As long as there are people who want something, there is demand, and last I checked, people want alot of things.

At the bottom, the opportunity to be self-employed as a farmer is often a better option, if one can get the land.

In the middle, the opportunity to be self-employed as a shopkeeper, or a craftsman, or ... is often a better option, if one can get the land to set up shop.

Some jobs will go to places with lower standards of and costs of living, this is OK, otherwise, their standards of living will not rise.

The majority of jobs leaving this country are because we tax labor too much. We are well educated, and among the most productive people in the world.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:11 PM
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2. This looks like the US in the 1800s.
No regulation of industry. No Unions to bargain as a group. In the 1800s children 8 and older were used routinely to clean out moving machinery. Now these companies go overseas and, because of social problems in those countries, are able to get 8 year olds to mine, sew and run machinery for them. They get away with paying those children slave wages (I'm not kidding, they get a child for a month for five dollars). If those countries didn't have serious social problems the industries would never get away with what they are doing. Because the US has fewer devastating social problems they can't get away with buying an 8 year old for 5 dollars. Yet adults in neither the US or in the victimized countries can compete with such low labor costs. So the spiral continues until????
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 10:37 PM
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3. I agree
right now it looks like they are working for 1896, where
there were no unions, still child labor, no taxes for the rich
and extremes of rich and poor.


I've concluded they wish to return to 1820...when slavery was legal.

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