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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:18 AM
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Hedge Funds Frozen Shut
To buy time and stave off losses, more funds are blocking withdrawals. Are they just postponing the inevitable?

There's a chill spreading across the hedge fund industry. With more portfolios falling victim to the credit crunch, managers by the dozen are freezing investor redemptions, preventing a mad rush to the exits that would force funds to sell beaten-down assets to raise cash. But is this unprece­dented move just postponing the day of reckoning for funds and the market?

Since November at least 24 hedge funds have barred or limited investors from taking their money out, tying up tens of billions of dollars for an indefinite period. ... Some hedge funds have broad powers under their contracts with investors to make such changes at their discretion. "It's the largest period of redemption suspensions in the industry's history," says Jonathan Kanterman, a managing director with Stillwater Capital Partners, a money manager.

It's understandable why hedge funds would want to keep investors from pulling out their money en masse. In this market, any sales would almost certainly be at cut-rate prices, guaranteeing big losses in portfolios. And once managers start dumping assets, there's also the danger that big banks, which provided the funds with credit lines to amp up returns through what's known as leverage, will demand their money back as collateral shrinks. Those margin calls would prompt further sales, setting off a vicious cycle that could ensure a fund's demise. "If you are an investor, you are upset," says one well-heeled investor in a fund that has stopped redemptions. "But if every fund has to sell at once, it's terrible."

Business Week
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:22 AM
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1. my heart bleeds...
:hurts: :nopity:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:34 AM
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2. If you have any money in the market, your returns would bleed if hedge funds
have to liquidate their positions.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:18 PM
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7. and as we're not in hedge funds I'll repeat my refrain
my heart bleeds :hurts: :nopity:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:30 PM
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8. My point is it will TANK the market for everybody.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:04 AM
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3. It seems as though we citizens are being taken down by design and plan.
Is it all for retaining control of the country - Exec, proclamation, military, curfews, prisons, courts?

Are we going to find out on which side of the fence some semi-weealthy people land on?

Did they go too far by accident or plan?
Is this the question?
And Is there a parachute for common citizens?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:34 AM
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4. This is serious because hedge funds attracted so many
institutional investors. They weren't all greedheads. Some of them were the pension funds that state workers are depending on since they opted out of Social Security.

Hedge funds are and always have been a Ponzi scheme. Unfortunately, they've been marketed to institutional investors like banks, brokerages, pensions, states, and insurance companies as a way for the real greedheads to get their money out.

I always figured that by the time a little fish like me heard about them, they were ready to go belly up. I was right.

Crashes always happen from the top down. The crash has happened to hedge funds, although the true extent of it isn't being publicized.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:15 PM
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5. Don't forget your Margin Calls. n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 12:16 PM by utopiansecretagent
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:18 PM
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6. Sound similar to Enron
didn't they freeze things before going belly up:hangover:

Avast
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