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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:22 PM
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U.S. Companies Safeguard Right to Move Jobs Overseas (Coalition formed)
(Wall Street Journal Europe, 3-1, A2)WSJ Says:

U.S. companies and trade groups including the American Bankers Association and the National Association of Manufacturers have formed a coalition to guard their right to move jobs overseas and bring foreign workers into the U.S., the Wall Street Journal said, without saying where it got the information.

The Coalition for Economic Growth and American Jobs opposes dozens of bills introduced by states and Congress including a rule that stops companies who bid for government work from moving jobs overseas, the paper said.

About 80 bills limiting the outsourcing of work have been introduced across 30 states, spurred by elections later this year. None of those that have come to the vote have been passed, according to the paper. <snip>



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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:26 PM
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1. Then we tax'em!
and hard. They want to produce "cheap" goods but sell them in the
States because that's the only place that they can sell anything...?
Tax'em! No free rides for these morons.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:31 PM
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2. I agree!
The tax code has been used - and is used - to modify the financial behavior of individuals and corporations. We should use these tools here and now.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:34 PM
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3. If they move the jobs overseas
they should go with them.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:47 PM
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5. Be careful what you wish for!
I suspect that the CEO's with their multiple tens of millions in ill gotten gains would abandon the US in a heartbeat.

We need to hold onto the loot they've stolen!
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:03 PM
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11. Get it back from off-shore banks...
It is stolen money.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:11 PM
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13. We have a President, VP, and cabinet that would also.
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 05:12 PM by mac2
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:17 PM
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14. The argument about cheaper goods....
Cheaper for who?

It's not cheaper for us in the long run. Only the ones on the top get most the profits. They don't pay taxes so all that has to be absorbed by the society. We pay for the services, health care, housing, of low paid workers.

How do we end up paying for over seas cheap labor? It ends up being hidden in dollars spent on defence and foreign loans. The cost to our society for the unemployed, crime, etc. The enviornment suffers...effecting our survival.

How much is quality of life worth? Is profit the end all of human existance?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:36 PM
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4.  What's the exact name of the organization?
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 10:37 PM by DanSpillane
Posters...demonstrations...ultimately...direct action involving certain plant fibers, metals, and igneous items?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:38 AM
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9. All I have is the WSJ article - it should come down the business
wire soon and I'll post it then.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:49 PM
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6. So now we'll call them co-orporations.
It would be easy to neutralize the power of corporations in America. We must stop giving them the same (or better) rights than we do individuals.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:06 PM
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7. How much longer?
Will the average middle-class American (Republican especially) go along with the philosophy that what's good for business is good for you.

It's really not working out that way...
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:46 AM
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8. Is tarring and feathering still illegal?
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:18 PM
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15. Didn't at the turn of the last century either.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:05 PM
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12. Making sure corporations don' t have more rights than ...
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 05:10 PM by mac2
individuals is a Constitutional Amendment I could support. They are not human and don't deserve the same rights. Using their power and wealth to force it on us is wrong.

Thomas Jefferson worried about corporate power (the reason we went to war against England in the first place)ruining our democracy because of their wealth and power. John Adams,etc. prevented it from being in the Constitution. It was a wrong decision.

I'm not a lawyer but, we should start a movement for an amendment soon as possible. The World Union is a corporte controlled government (fascism). Yipes!!!

Thom Hartmann said,we should replace the word "human" before the word "person" in the Bill of Rights.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:53 PM
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10. Corporations have Charters......
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 05:22 PM by mac2
To do business in certain states. According to my business training, if they are found guilty of criminal conduct, do not act in the best interest of the community, etc., their charter can be taken away and the corporation dissolved.

They passed these laws as part of the Progressive movement back at the turn of the century. They did take away corporate charters. It was enforced.

CEOs, managers, board of directors, etc.who lie to shareholders, employees, plunder the pension funds, etc. are committing fraud. Plain and simple concept is it not? They do not own the company. They are employees.

Dissolving a corporation isn't so bad. There are always others to buy them up.

Many states have this in their legal systems but have failed to do so. Why not in the case of Anderson, Enron, Tyco, World Com?

I have written my Governor and reminded him of this power. No answer of-course. There is a general lawlessness about corporations that I just don't understand.

The best system for private utilities, transportation, etc. (paid for by tax payers) is a private and public partnership. The government reviews rate increases, complaints, etc. Controls to make sure this important service is not abusedand it works for the customers, repairs timely, enviornmenatal controls, etc. Profits above all else aren't the goal. It worked well in the past prior to making them corporations (privatization).

They(WSJ)can spread their propaganda in the media. We have to power to decide. It is our country, laws, and money. Unless they have direct ownership...we control corporations.

If they continue to plunder and we find them guilty, move off-shore, other mischeif, we don't do business with them. We'll find others who will. This is one of the laragest markets in the world...we have power.

China is demanding corporations meet standards, deliver certain service and products, add to their community by building manufacturing and technology there,etc., so should we.





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