Global warming gets less debate than future of oil

[OKIsItJustMe]

http://www.star-telegram.com/business/story/470890.html

Global warming gets less debate than future of oil

Posted on Wed, Feb. 13, 2008
By JIM FUQUAY
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

HOUSTON -- When the head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says he is "delighted" with what he just heard from the head of the one of the nation's biggest energy companies, it would seem global warming has arrived -- even at what is described as the "Super Bowl" of energy conferences.

ConocoPhillips Chairman James Mulva told a lunchtime crowd at Cambridge Energy Research Associates' 27th annual meeting that a growing consensus on the consequences of climate change demands that the energy industry, as well as the United States, become fully engaged in the debate.

"The train is leaving the station without the industry on board," said Mulva, whose Houston-based firm has been among the front-runners in supporting "a strong, mandatory framework to control greenhouse-gas emissions."

That led R.K. Pachauri, chairman of the IPCC, which along with former Vice President Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize for their work studying climate change, to joke that Mulva's comments made his own presentation "redundant."

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[L0oniX]

1. When we run out of gas, global warming will be reduced ...and we ARE going to run out of gas.

I give it 4 years until we run out of the easy to get oil. Feel free to Google "peak oil".

[poopfuel]

2. or we already have run out of it

But that won't stop energy companies from adding pollution to feed some people's cars.
Read this. This is what they have planned. Demand goes down, people die and starve, so what? They'll just keep plugging away with this.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-greenhouse_12feb12,0,7430874.story

[OKIsItJustMe]

4. A few thoughts for you to consider

• Most of the readers of this board are quite familiar with "Peak Oil."


• Reaching "Peak Oil" will not mean that we're "out of gas," it will mean that we've used about half of the oil supplies, and production rates will decline. Or, looked at another way, we've done about half the potential damage we can do by burning oil. (We can still do plenty of damage by burning coal and coal derivatives.)


• Many experts do not believe that "peak oil" will be sufficient to reverse the effects of "global warming." (Here's a Google search for you to try.)

[L0oniX]

5. Sure there's lots of hard to get oil but who can afford $10 a gal of gas except the gov

[NickB79]

7. Unless we get desperate and start liquifying coal to oil

Naaa, no chance humanity would do something so stupid rather than even consider the fact that the American way of life is unsustainable :sarcasm:

[Ezlivin]

3. The plan is to allow us to drive ourselves right to the edge of the cliff

No one wants to change the American lifestyle: Not the citizens, not the government and not the corporations who are making record profits.

It's simple, really. We are going to keep on doing what we've always done, consequences be damned, right until catastrophe is inevitable. Then and only then will we think about making wholesale changes.

Of course by then it will be too late. Oh, well.

[L0oniX]

6. The lemming factor. n/t