Climate Denial Industry Blowing Hot Air On Himalayan Glaciers

[kgrandia]

Climate Denial Industry Blowing Hot Air On Himalayan Glaciers

The climate denial industry is once again trying to make a huge to-do about a tiny error by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

With the Climategate Swifthack episode fading from the limelight, after a thorough debunking of far-fetched accusations that scientists made up global warming, the climate science attack machine now wants the world to focus on one paragraph out of a 938-page, three-year-old report.

The contrarians are questioning a single reference to Himalayan glaciers included in a 2007 IPCC report that does not meet the IPCC’s well-established evidentiary standards.


More: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/20/213211/022?new=true

[NewJeffCT]

1. So, with all their billions of dollars, it still took them 3 years

to find one piece of a 938 page report that didn't meet standards of evidence? And, you can bet that with their resources, they had people pouring through the data from Day 1 looking for something, anything.

[kgrandia]

2. Exactly

AND, they had a bunch of their folks (i.e. Kenneth Green from the American Enterprise Institute) as a reviewer.

[timeforpeace]

3. Other than saying the glaciers will melt and now saying they won't, it was spot on.

[cdillon]

4. Meanwhile they ignore real evidence

The EAIS is actually LOSING ice. Much to the surprise of climatologists. See ...

http://climateprogress.org/2009/11/23/satellite-data-grace-east-antarctica-ice-sheet-losing-mass/

Climatologists had believed that because of global warming that Antarctica, and especially the EAIS, would actually GAIN ice for awhile due to increased snowfall caused by the increased evaporation by the warmer oceans.

However, reality is different. The Grace sattelite measures the amount of ice by measuring its gravity impact. More ice means more mass which means more gravity. And, less gravity means less ice. And the satellite is measuring the entire Antarctic mass, unlike coring or other land based measurements.

If the EAIS is losing ice, as well as the WAIS, the estimates for sea level rise this century may very well be greatly underestimated. The more the ice caps of Greenland and Antarctic are researched, the original idea that they are just big blocks of ice that will melt slowly is wrong.

Ice shelves can fail catastrophically. Ice rivers and sheets can begin to move much faster to the sea. Surface melt water will make crevasses through the ice and bring heat to within the ice cap itself. Water falling to the bottom of the ice cap will lubricate and float the ice cap above and bring it to the sea. Basically, we don't know how long it takes for an ice cap to disappear when climagte warming occurs.

[DeadEyeDyck]

5. I don't know...

that report is really falling apart. It is flawed in so many ways. I think it did a lot of damadge to the over study.

[tom_paine]

6. Lucrative Industry, that.

I don't think there's any question that the American Empire's two greatest industries which we can be most proud of are:

1) The Lie Industry
2) Pornography

With these two industries, that no other nation on Earth can match, we march bravely into the 21st Century!

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