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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:38 AM
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Scientists dispute climate sceptic's claim that US weather data is useless
Ex-weatherman Anthony Watts says many US weather stations produce unreliable data because they are located next to artificial heat – but a scientific analysis suggests that, if anything, such stations underestimate warming


It appeared to have shaken the credibility of one of the most important global warming data sets in the world. A blog-inspired campaign by amateur climate sceptics seemed to show that numerous weather stations across the US were so poorly located they could not be relied upon.

But a new scientific analysis, using data from the sceptics, has shown that, if anything, the poorly located stations underestimate warming, rather than exaggerating it.

The US temperature record uses data from thousands of weather stations spread around the country. Their accuracy was called into question following a campaign by climate sceptic Anthony Watts, an ex-weatherman who runs the influential blog WattsUpWithThat.

He set up a site called surfacestations.org for readers to post photos of poorly located weather stations, particularly in places that could be influenced by artificial heat, such as air conditioning units or car parks. The photos were compiled into a book published by the right-wing thinktank the Heartland Institute. In it, Watts wrote: "The conclusion is inescapable: The US temperature record is unreliable. And since the US record is thought to be 'the best in the world,' it follows that the global database is likely similarly compromised and unreliable."

But scientists at the National Climatic Data Centre (NCDC) in North Carolina have analysed the weather station data to see what difference poor location actually makes. Watts had ranked the stations by his estimation of the quality of their location, so Dr Matthew Menne and colleagues compared the results from high- and low-ranked stations. They described their results as "counterintuitive" – poorly located stations were actually more likely to be cooler than those in better locations. This is probably because the poorly located stations are more likely to use more up-to-date measuring equipment called Maximum-Minimum Temperature System (MMTS), which has a slight "cool" bias that is already well documented.

"NCDC has spent more than 25 years developing methods to correct for biases such as those introduced by the MMTS switch, and published numerous articles documenting these methods and their reliability in the peer-reviewed scientific literature," said Dr Scott Hausman, NCDC's deputy director. "These methods have proven time and again to be robust at removing these biases and providing a true climate signal in regional to global temperatures, and we are highly confident in our results."

He said the NCDC had invited Watts to collaborate on the paper, which appeared in the Journal of Geophysical Research last month, but he declined.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/15/climate-sceptic-us-weather-data
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:41 AM
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1. What is the matter with these deniers?
They obviously have an agenda, for us to keep on polluting as much as possible. Even if climate change wasn't happening, what the hell is wrong with reducing pollution?

Money sure does corrupt these bastards. And Anthony Watts should be strung up by his balls on a melting glacier. Is he a relative of James Watts, the pollution-loving asshole Reagan appointed to the Interior Department?
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:59 AM
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2. dupe
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 12:03 PM by HillbillyBob
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:01 PM
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3. i wondered about the name
Not sure where to look to see.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:11 PM
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4. Greed and fear of change...
A lot of deniers are making big bucks off the status quo and want things to remain the same.

Another group of people simply don't want to give up their muscle cars and wasteful lifestyles.

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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:39 PM
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5. "people simply don't want to give up their ... wasteful lifestyles"
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:36 PM
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6. In case you didn't get the memo...
The greedy people went to the climate summit as well.

No better way to protect your interests than to disrupt the process of change.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:44 PM
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7. well flying to Copenhagen in a fleet of jets
probably wasn't the best statement that could have been made.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:35 PM
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8. I see this is a full-time job for you. Must pay well.
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