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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 02:29 AM
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NY hikes security on dirty bomb Internet chatter
Source: Reuters

NY hikes security on dirty bomb Internet chatter
Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:42AM EDT

By Mark Egan and Christine Kearney

NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York police stepped up security
throughout Manhattan and at bridges and tunnels on Friday
in response to an Internet report -- which authorities said
they could not verify -- that al Qaeda might be plotting to
detonate a dirty bomb in the city.

New York City police said in a statement the threat against
the city was an "unverified radiological threat," stressed
the increased security was precautionary and said the city's
alert status for an attack was unchanged at "orange."

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg stressed there was no
reason to believe this threat was any different from
countless others since the September 11 attacks.

One law enforcement source told Reuters that authorities
were responding to Internet chatter reported on Israeli Web
site www.debka.com, but that the information reported there
could not be verified.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1026252120070811
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 05:16 AM
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1. Ok, what are the perpetrators using for shielding to keep from killing
themselves while they put this so called dirty bomb together and also to transport it to where ever?
Where did they get the 'dirty' stuff from? Which military base will this 'dirt' be traced back to and the investigation dropped, aka, Anthrax investigation. Assuming of course, this is something more than just more fear mongering by our 'liberal' media, with the blessings of our government.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:57 AM
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2. They don't NEED "dirty stuff"
We Americans have had half a century of dread fear of radioactivity pounded into our skulls. Of course radioactive material is potentially dangerous, but we have "hipped" ourselves into thinking it's the modern version of evil spirits.

Anthrax was similar, but since we're used to it, we're not quite as scared of it anymore. We know it can be treated and cured without much fuss. In 2000, it was a badass-sounding disease and a worse metal band; today, it's adult diaper rash on steroids. You can't and shouldn't dismiss it, but panic is not necessary. Ditto radionuclides. In fact, panic will hasten your demise -- infected, irradiated, or not.

Radioactive materials are well studied. Their risks have been qualified, quantified, catalogued, and coded. Anyone can read up about them on Wikipedia, any of the National Laboratories (Sandia, Argonne, Oak Ridge, and so on) websites, or a hundred-plus university physics sites.

But we are in a position where all anyone has to do is say "radiation!" and people freak out. If a janitor at a nuke plant so much as breaks wind without filling out the required paperwork, hundreds of people from the Pentagon to the organic food shop in town issue a red alert and start passing out the containment suits and potassium pills.

Sure, we ought to be strict when it comes to all things radioactive, and poisonous, and polluting. But our irrational fears of radioactivity can be exploited. One of these days, someone WILL try to exploit them brut, and people will suffer, bad.

All it will take is a dollop of Americium collected from a bunch of smoke detectors, or a speck of medical radiocesium copped during biohazard disposal transport. Grind it up, mix it in a brick of plastique, and set it off in a city -- then tell the press. As long as there is a single Becquerel of detectable radioactivity, the public will shit its collective pants.

Not only is it useful to terrorists (there are a few out there), but also to our wise and caring government, and, sadly, about half of our fellow lefties.

This is a tragic, but remediable, weakness. As I wrote, there is no lack of accurate, educational material on the effects of radioactivity. You can even learn to calculate dosages with the information the Department of Homeland Anxiety doles out to us. You can figure out early if you need to haul ass and evacuate -- or if it's okay to just keep the kids and the dog in the house for the day.

As FDR said, "we have nothing to fear but Fear itself." Never has that wisdom been needed as much as today. The manipulation and jerking of our fears, obsessions, hang-ups, and fears (I know I wrote it twice) has done more damage to us than nuclear material, 9-11, Katrina, Iraq, Avian Flu, Anthrax, Mad Cow, and Thimerosal Fluoride Chemtrails put together. Anthrax, Britney, Pedophiles, Lindsay, al-Qaeda, Mary-Kate, Internet viruses, Paris, E. coli, Tubgirl, Tom Cruise, Goatse.cx, Swift Boaters, Hillary, Ashlee, Steroids, and our aching infrastructure ... they have all been used to render us punch-drunk, whiplashed and whipsawed into a state of chronic cock-eyed hypervigilance, stress, and conditioned stupidity.

ALL of us. Even you. Even ME. (Especially me.)

But there is a cure -- awareness. Nobody has to remain a victim of fear. Education is easy to find and can turn irrational fears into a mix of positive challenges and bad one-liners.

We should certainly be on the look-out for trouble, but walking around blindfolded and frightened is no way to reduce risk. It is time to take the blindfolds off, bust the ghosts, and put the fear jockeys out of business.

--p!
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:27 AM
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3. Israeli Web site that prompted New York terror threat seen as unreliable
Source: Associated Press

Israeli Web site that prompted New York terror threat seen as unreliable

The Associated Press
Published: August 12, 2007

JERUSALEM: Unsubstantiated reports of a dirty bomb attack
in New York City that sent police into heightened alert this
weekend came from a Jerusalem-based Web site that claims
more than a million daily readers but is criticized by
intelligence experts as unreliable.

Giora Shamis and his wife, Diane Shalem, launched DEBKAfile
(Debka.com) in 2000 to focus on security, terrorist activities
and military affairs in the Middle East. Shamis claims he and
his wife predicted the Al Qaeda attack on the World Trade
Center.

Shamis says Debka, which is financed by subscriptions and
ad revenue, has a daily readership of 1.3 million. But its
reports, published in English and Hebrew, rely on anonymous
sourcing and often prove untrue.

"I don't know a single Israeli official who sees the site as a
reliable source," said Ronen Bergman, an investigative reporter
for Israel's Yediot Ahronot daily who specializes in espionage.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/12/africa/ME-GEN-Israel-NYC-Alert.php



Alternate AP headline: Israeli Terror Web Site Unreliable
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