Could we not have any ADDITIONAL threads celebrating the death of the soccer mom.

[Tim01]

There are already a whole bunch of threads for people who are joyous the gun toting soccer mom was shot in the head by her husband. You are thrilled, we get it. But it is burying all the threads on other gun subjects. Thanks.

[Lerkfish]

1. um *points to this thread*

:shrug:

[divideandconquer]

2. Why because it exposes gun huggers false meme about gun making america safer?

[Lerkfish]

3. no, more basic and nonpartisan

pointing to this thread telling people NOT to make additional threads, is an additional thread.

capiche?

its just one of the DU things I find ironic, even though I"ve done it myself on occasion.

[JonQ]

10. Studies with an N = 1

are generally considered useless.

If one instance of an armed individual being killed negates the entire value of firearms for self-defense, does one instance of an armed individual not being killed because he/she was armed disprove the counter argument?

It seems we ought to be consistent. And if we're going to say that one case can prove a trend then you may as well say it is perfectly safe to be shot directly in the head, after all there have been instances of that happening with no ill long term effects.

[proteus_lives]

16. You should worry about them.

They expose the heartless nature of you and your fellow gun-grabbers.

[MNDemNY]

4. No way, more threads on murdered soccer mom and her dead gun-crazed hubby are in order. Keep it up!

[armueller2001]

6. Where or when

did any credible source say that the hubby was "gun-crazed"? Because he was a peace officer and had to have a duty weapon?

To you people anyone who owns any type of firearm is "gun-crazed".

I'm also car-crazed, a fire extinguisher nut and a smoke detector lutatic.

[JonQ]

11. Don't gun grabbers usually argue that only police and military should be armed

in such a world, wouldn't this have happened anyway?

According to their logic the murderer would have been armed regardless in this scenario. Required to be armed by law in fact.

The only thing that would have changed would be the victim would have had no chance at self defense, rather than an insufficient chance. She would have been exactly as dead.

[valerief]

5. Guns don't kill people. BULLETS do!!!!

Gun control is vital to the survival of our world.

[benEzra]

7. Given that the shooter here was a rogue law enforcement officer,

do you propose disarming the police as well?

[valerief]

13. The soccer mom was? She had a gun. I assume she was a shooter. BULLETS KILL!!!! nt

[benEzra]

17. The "soccer mom" was unarmed, in her kitchen, and talking on her webcam to a friend.

Her law-enforcement-officer husband, who she had separated from and IIRC had tried to file a restraining order against, slipped into the house and shot her in the back, before going upstairs and killing himself; there is some suggestion that he may have used a department-issued weapon, but I haven't been able to verify that.

Yes, she did have a gun elsewhere in the house, but she was apparently not expecting any trouble, as it was not on her person or even in the same room with her; she was unarmed.

[spin]

8. Gun control is raciist...

The racist roots of gun control:

If you dispute this statement read this brief to the Supreme Court in the Heller case.

http://www.georgiacarry.com/Heller/07-290bsacGeorgiaCarry.pdf

I'll just quote the conclusion:

CONCLUSION
American history, from colonial times to the
immediate past, is replete with evidence that gun
control has frequently been implemented with a
nefarious purpose of subjugating blacks and other
minorities. Even today’s gun control laws are often
vestiges of, or the continuation of, the nation’s Jim
Crow past. At best, many such laws have greater
effects on minorities and the economically disadvantaged.
As the parties and other amici no doubt will
argue, the Framers put into place a constitutional
guarantee that the right of the people to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed. It clearly was the
intent of the drafters of the Fourteenth Amendment
to ensure that this guarantee applied to all people
and against the states as well as the federal government

[valerief]

12. I guess bullet control is racist, too. nt

[spin]

15. Firearms without bullets would be wall hangers...

and the KKK could ride again without fear. You can bet THEY would have guns and bullets.

In his 2004 book, The Deacons for Defense: Armed Resistance and the Civil Rights Movement, Tulane University history professor Lance Hill tells their story. Hill writes of how a group of southern working class black men advanced civil rights through direct action to protect members of local communities against harassment at schools and polling places, and to thwart the terror inflicted by the Ku Klux Klan. He argues that without the Deacons’ activities the civil rights movement may have come to a crashing halt.

…Following a KKK night ride in Jonesboro, the Deacons approached the police chief who had led the parade and informed him that they were armed and unafraid of self-defense. The Klan never rode through Jonesboro again. Local cross burnings ceased when warning shots were fired as a Klansmen’s torch met a cross planted in front of a black minister’s home. The initial desegregation of Jonesboro High School was threatened by firemen who aimed hoses at black students attempting to enter the building. When four Deacons arrived and loaded their shotguns, the firemen left and the students entered unscathed. It was this series of efforts by the Deacons that caused the Klan to leave Jonesboro for good.

Similar work in Bogalusa, Louisiana drove the KKK out of that town as well, and led to a turning point in the civil rights movement. Acting as private citizens in lawful employment of their constitutional rights, the Deacons demonstrated the real social impact of the freedoms our nation’s founders held dear.
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2007/02/09/blacks-used-gun-ownership-to-fight-the-kkk/

This book is still available on Amazon.com.

http://www.amazon.com/Deacons-Defense-Resistance-Rights-Movement/dp/0807857025

You can check out the table of contents and read some of the first pages of this book on the Amazon web site.

[Euromutt]

9. I think the problem is mod policy

These threads get started in GD or some other sub-forum, then it turns into an argument about guns, so the mods dump it in here. Then somebody starts a new thread in GD, because there's no thread on this subject there anymore, that one turns into an argument about guns, also gets dumped in here, etc.

[spin]

14. I don't know, I was enjoying the gun grabbers...

who always complain that we glamorize and salivate over post where a bad guy is killed in a "good" shooting.

Many of the same people show an amazing level of hypocrisy when they show how happy they are that a gun owning mother was killed by her husband.

Strangely, we never appear to be happy when some innocent citizen who doesn't own a firearm is killed.