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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:18 AM
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What's the deal with the CCRKBA?
First I've ever heard of them was when I came across this article on a pro-business site:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/obama-reveals-anti-gun-un-intent-sends-ex-seattle-mayor-as-rep-103083264.html

BELLEVUE, Wash., Sept. 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The appointment of anti-gun rights former Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels as an alternate representative to the United Nations has removed any doubt about the Obama administration's intentions regarding global gun control initiatives, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said today.

Nickels, a founding member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the author of Seattle's failed attempt to override Washington's state firearms preemption statute, was sworn in Wednesday to "help represent the United States in the UN assembly," according to the Seattle Times.

"Putting an extremist gun banner in any position to represent this country at the United Nations amounts to renting a billboard for advertising against the Second Amendment," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. "While he was Seattle's mayor, Greg Nickels supported every anti-gun scheme put forth by Washington CeaseFire, the Northwest's most active gun prohibition lobby.

"Nickels is a gun ban proponent," he continued, "so his appointment as an alternate to the UN is a clear signal of Barack Obama's intention to rubber stamp the UN's global gun ban agenda. We had to sue Nickels while he was still Seattle's mayor to overturn his illegal city parks gun ban. Now he gets to push his anti-gun philosophy on a world scale. It hardly seems a coincidence that Nickels has been appointed by the Obama administration at a time when the UN is considering treaties and initiatives that pose a serious threat to the Second Amendment."


I don't get it, are they like a smaller version of GOA or JPFO? They boast 655,000 members, and seem to be spouting the same "chicken little" bullshit about Obama that the NRA does. Until/unless Obama actually pushes for a new AWB or some other DOMESTIC gun control measure, I'm not that concerned and give him the benefit of the doubt. For whatever anti-gun positions Obama held as Senator, he's done a pretty good job not bringing out divisive proposals so far as President. Sounds like Nickels' position is pretty much just ceremonial anyway, as if any U.N. resolution was binding against the U.S. Bill of Rights...
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:21 AM
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1. LOL Greg Nickles...
He has caused many threads down here on his illegal gun control laws a couple of years ago. He pushed and pushed and pushed, only to be repeatedly slapped around by the courts and legislature. I think Seattle maybe still writing checks to attorneys over his "clearly illegal" gun control laws. That ended up getting the proverbial pants sued off the city.

He clearly should NOT be representing the US at the UN, in any capacity.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:26 AM
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2. Ever hear of the Second Amendment Foundation? It's the same outfit
Both are essentially a two-man show, consisting of Alan Gottlieb, with Dave Workman on second fiddle. They do some good work with litigation against certain dumber gun control measures, which is why I donated to the SAF for a year, but there's only so much of the "liberals this, liberals that" right-wing chicken little bullshit (as you so aptly describe it) you can stand to get in your email until you decide "fuck you and your stupid bow tie, baldy."
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:59 AM
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3. Yep...
They do good work....But your right about the bullshit..
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:54 AM
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4. Yeah - many on the right REFUSE to believe that we on the left actually own guns
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 05:54 AM by old mark
and actually know how to shoot!
EVERY anti gun asshole politician is automatically labeled a "liberal", whether we like him or not.

I try to inform some people on various gun forums, and they have trouble believing that I really am an Army veteran, a shooter since age 10 and a lifelong Democratic voter...and that I regularly carry a gun! It is too much for them to grasp...

rec.
mark
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:53 AM
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5. It IS tough.
When people are reminded of party stalwarts such as Homer Cummings and Thomas Dodd making careers pushing gun control and handgun bans from the New Deal to the Great Society. It is rough when the party's most "incisive minds" on gun control get millions of hits on You-tube highlighting complete and monumental technical incompetence.

It's just hard to reconcile that while Eleanor Roosevelt had a concealed carry permit and regularly shot her .38 caliber revolver her husband did all he could, both as the Governor of New York and as President to preempt any challenge to New York's Sullivan Law.

Then, of course, there IS the recent history of the Assault Weapons Ban. The fact that gun control is still a plank in the official party platform. Or even that brain dead bit of duplicitous sophistry:

"As a long-time resident and elected official of Chicago, Barack Obama has seen the impact of fully automatic weapons in the hands of criminals. Thus, Senator Obama supports making permanent the expired federal Assault Weapon Ban."


Again, how much more directly or more plainly can he say he wants to reinstate a ban on semiautomatic weapons by implying they are machine-guns?

There can only be two explanations for making that statement. It was a deliberate attempt to deceive people who don't know the difference. Or he doesn't know the difference himself. Deceit or dumb-ass, take your pick!

The problem is the Party's blue blood leadership's slavish devotion to gun control makes for tough choices among the gun-owning, hard-working, blue collar core.

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