GUNS IN THE NEWS - June 9, 2004

[CO Liberal]

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[MrBenchley]

1. Biggs teen arrested after he was spotted carrying hand gun (CA)

"BIGGS A 17-year-old male was arrested on B Street Monday night after Butte Interagency Narcotics Task Force members spotted him carrying a hand gun.
The suspect, not named because of his age, appeared to place the gun in his right front pants pocket as officers approached him.
BINTF commander Keith Krampitz said the youth was nervous during questioning.
When officers detected the object in his pants during a pat-down search and asked him what it was, he reportedly answered "It's a gun." "

http://www.chicoer.com/Stories/0,1413,135~25088~2201386,00.html

[CO Liberal]

2. 10-Year-Old Accused Of Shooting Man With BB Gun (NC)

Sounds like a good candidate for junior membership in the Nuts Ruining America. - Wayne

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10-Year-Old Accused Of Shooting Man With BB Gun

Boy's Family Asked To Move Out Of Complex

POSTED: 8:09 am EDT June 9, 2004
UPDATED: 9:58 am EDT June 9, 2004

DURHAM, N.C. -- Durham police arrested a 10-year-old boy Monday for allegedly shooting a man with a BB gun.

The boy allegedly fired the gun at two landscapers at the Carriage House apartment complex on Monday. Police say he shot one of them at close range in the chest.

"The Mexican guy, I didn't shoot him cause the bullets ran out. I tried to shoot him in the back but it didn't work," the 10-year-old said, describing the incident. "I'm sorry. I didn't really mean it. I thought it was just fake and I was only just playing."

Joe Braun owns the landscaping company the two men worked for and was there when the shooting happened. He said when police arrived, the boy cursed at them and admitted what he had done.

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http://www.nbc17.com/news/3398730/detail.html

[CO Liberal]

3. Two women killed in shooting (NYC)

Another family made safer by guns...NOT!!! - Wayne

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Two women killed in shooting

June 9, 2004, 1:10 AM EDT

Two women were shot dead last night in a dramatic domestic confrontation in the Bronx that was witnessed by at least two children, police said.

Details were sketchy early today, but police said it appears the 30-year-old boyfriend of one of the victims opened fire on his partner and another adult female inside a Schuylerville home where the boyfriend had been staying. The suspect fled after the shooting and was being sought by police.

The 10:35 p.m. double slaying occurred on Throgs Neck Boulevard. Police said one victim was 33 years old. The other's age was not known.

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http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/nyc-shot0609,0,2011067.story?coll=nyc-moreny-headlines

[PopeyeII]

21. I went to school near by.

Bronx NYC? ALL firearms are banned in NYC. What good do firearm laws do if nobody obeys them?

When guns are banned, only criminals will have guns.

[CO Liberal]

23. People Can Get from NYC to Several Different States...

...in a matter of hours - to NJ and CT in less than an hour. It's very simple to buy a gun in another state and bring it in to the Big Apple.


What good do firearm laws do if nobody obeys them?

Using your "logic", we might as well repeal all the laws against bank robbery and morder, since the laws are on the books and banks still get robbed and people still get killed....

[MrBenchley]

4. Man injured in drive-by shooting (PA)

"Bristol Township police on Tuesday investigated a reported drive-by shooting that injured a 20-year-old man from Bristol.
A male who was riding in the back of a gold Mercury Grand Marquis sedan chased down and shot Brian McDuffie shortly before 1 a.m. Tuesday at Weston and Elmhurst avenues in the township's Winder Village neighborhood, police said. McDuffie, who lives in the 600 block of Spruce Street, was hit once in the back of the right leg, police said.
McDuffie told police he was riding his bicycle when the sedan stopped alongside him. Two females sat in front and two males sat in the back. One of the males asked McDuffie if he had any drugs, after which he got out of the car and chased after McDuffie, who dropped his bike and ran before he was hit."

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/111-06092004-313752.html

[CO Liberal]

5. State Police Investigate Shooting (CT)

Most professionals talk things out when they have a dispute - not shoot things out. - Wayne

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State Police Investigate Shooting

By: David J. Renza June 09, 2004

SEYMOUR - One optometrist walked into the office of a second optometrist last Friday and, police said, opened fire, leaving the second doctor wounded.

Dr. Daniel A. Kissel subsequently was killed by a police officer who responded to the scene when police said he made a threatening gesture towards the officer.

The incident occurred at approximately 4:30 p.m. June 4 when Dr. Kissel reportedly walked into the Seymour Optometric Center on 25 New Haven Ave. and had a loud discussion with Dr. George Tzepos, who works at the center, according to State Police spokesman Sgt. Paul Vance.

Shots were fired and Dr. Tzepos was in critical condition at press time at Yale-New Haven Hospital.

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http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1380&dept_id=157533&newsid=11885883&PAG=461&rfi=9

[CO Liberal]

6. 14-year-old dies after shooting; teenager charged (VA)

It will be interesting to find out where the kig got that handgun. - Wayne

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14-year-old dies after shooting; teenager charged

By the Associated Press

Published June 8, 2004

CHRISTIANSBURG, Va. -- A 14-year-old Christiansburg High School student was shot in the stomach Tuesday and died of his injuries at a Roanoke hospital, authorities said.

Police arrested a 17-year-old after a foot chase Tuesday evening and charged him with malicious wounding.

The shooting occurred about 1:30 p.m. as four teenagers gathered in a garage at a house in eastern Christiansburg, said Capt. Barry O'Rourke of the Christiansburg Police Department.

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Tuesday evening, police were still searching for the handgun used in the shooting.

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http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virginia/dp-va--brf-teenshooting0608jun08,0,5831848.story?coll=dp-headlines-virginia

[MrBenchley]

7. Which far right wing assholes publish a gun magazine for kids?

Was it the one that has racist asshole Ted Nugent on its Board of Directors and every civil rights group around on its enemies list?

[TexasMexican]

28. So do you suggest we change laws regarding gun magazines?

I dont know any "gun magazines for kids," but I dont think there are any laws against kids buying gun magazines?

Are you going to advocate that there be laws against kids buying gun magazines? Make it so that they have to be 18 to buy them, just like porn?

[MrBenchley]

8. Twins, 16, to be tried as adults in killing (MD)

"Twin 16-year-old brothers accused of fatally shooting a pregnant woman who refused their sexual advances will be tried as adults, a Baltimore Circuit Court judge decided yesterday.
Judge John M. Glynn denied separate defense motions to transfer jurisdiction from the adult system to the juvenile justice system for Brian Antonio Wilson and Paul Anthony Wilson, of the 5600 block of Govane Ave. in Govans, because of the nature of the killing and what he said was the lack of evidence that the two would be responsive to rehabilitation in the juvenile system. "

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/crime/bal-md.transfer09jun09,0,135965.story?coll=bal-local-headlines

[Romulus]

19. Man, it's a good thing

teenagers don't have access to firearms, or else someone may have gotten hurt <sarcasm>

http://www.wtop.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=211189

Montgomery Teen's Beating Death Ruled a Homicide
Updated: Tuesday, Jun. 8, 2004 - 6:26 AM

SILVER SPRING, Md. (AP) - The death of a 16-year-old who was beaten by a group of other teens has been ruled a homicide, according to the state medical examiner.

Malik McCoy of Silver Spring died from blunt force trauma to the head, according to the autopsy report released Monday by the Montgomery County police.

Authorities said McCoy was visiting a friend's apartment when he was allegedly lured outside by a group of other teens and beaten.


http://www.wtop.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=210303

Funeral held for Oxon Hill High School senior

WASHINGTON (AP) - Funeral services were held Friday for a young man killed after offering to buy a girl a Slurpee at a 7-Eleven store in Suitland, Md.

Mourners gathered at Garden Memorial Presbyterian Church in southeast Washington, D.C. and recalled how 18-year-old Michael Bassett was a popular young man known for making people smile. The Oxon Hill High School senior was beaten and struck by two cars during the incident last Sunday.

Prince George's police have charged 16-year-old Emmanuel McClain with murder although his attorney says McClain played only a minor role in the incident. Police are continuing to search for others who may have been involved.

[MrBenchley]

9. Teen enters guilty plea in fatal shooting (MD)

"A teenager admitted yesterday that he fatally shot the driver of a moving car in which he was a passenger just outside Annapolis last year - though why he killed him remains unclear.
Ervin Demontray Montague, 18, of no fixed address, pleaded guilty in Anne Arundel County Circuit Court to second-degree murder and a handgun violation in the April 20, 2003, death of a Crofton man, Aaron Kirk Howard, 33.
Lawyers said they could not pinpoint a motive for the slaying, though Assistant State's Attorney Lawrence J. Caporale said Montague told a relative that he had beaten Howard with a golf club a month earlier in a dispute over $200. "

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-ar.plea09jun09,0,7361047.story?coll=bal-local-arundel

[MrBenchley]

10. Woman Shot Seven Times On North Side (IN)

"Police are investigating an incident in which a woman was shot seven times on the city's north side Tuesday night.
It happened around 10:30 p.m. near 25th and Rader streets, RTV6 reported.
The woman was taken to Wishard Hospital in critical condition. "

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040609/lo_wrtv/2240524

[PopeyeII]

11. The Pizza Killers

http://www.etherzone.com/2004/lang060904.shtml

HE PIZZA KILLERS
A DISTURBING PATTERN

By: Ted Lang

On May 21, 1924, two young men from well-to-do families murdered a teenager. It was on that day that Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb
murdered 14-year-old Bobby Franks, supposedly for the ransom the kidnapping would bring. But that motive fails in the light of the
impressive college education both had completed while still teenagers, as well as their elevated economic status. The real motive for the
senseless killing was concluded as being the "thrill" of committing a murder.

A recent and particularly disturbing pattern of thrill killings is becoming evident: it is a pattern that singles out a most vulnerable group of
targeted victims; namely, pizza deliverypersons. In "The Armed Citizen" section of American Rifleman Magazine, the premier monthly
publication of the National Rifle Association, an account of a pizza deliverygirl was reported several years ago. It seems two armed men
robbed her. After running several yards, one robber turned, aimed and fired his pistol at the girl.


The deliverygirl pulled a .357 Magnum revolver from a concealed holster and returned fire, killing the would-be
murderer. She did the right thing initially in assessing that a gunfight and the possible loss of life was not worth
the price of the stolen pizza or the small amount of money taken. And since the robbery was over and the take
not really significant, one can only conclude that the perpetrator intended to kill her for the sheer thrill of it. Had
the robber known the pizza girl was armed, he and his partner would most likely have avoided her. Certainly, he
wouldn’t have shot at her once in the clear.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

[CO Liberal]

12. DU Rule Violation

In order to comply with US copyright laws on "fair use" (and DU rules), you're only supposed to post four paragraphs maximum of a story from another site, with a link that others can follow if they wish to read the entire story.

That's why the other stories on this GITN thread are only four paragraphs long. If you still have time, you should edit your post to comply with the rules.

[PopeyeII]

20. OOPS; I missed the deadline.

I will comply in the future.

Sorry.

PopeyeII

[Wickerman]

13. Co Lib is right - please edit your post

and review the DU copyright rules.

thanks!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html#copyright

[CO Liberal]

18. It Doesn't Look Like Popeye Made it Back In Time, Lunabush

His post will have to be edited from your end....

[MrBenchley]

14. What a surprise...a right wing cesspool as source (ho hum)

Other swell "opinions" from this cesspool....

SOFTBALL WITH DAN RATHER
STAR PITCHER FOR CLINTON'S POLITICAL GAMES
By: Doug Schmitz
"n his fourth interview with the ex-president, CBS News top propagandist Dan Rather, who has twice kissed the blood-soaked feet of Saddam Hussein, while never requesting a sit-down with President George W. Bush after nearly four years, will be given yet another chance on "60 Minutes" to kiss the ring of Bill Clinton, the Don of the Democratic Party – and the man Rather wishes were still in the Oval Office.
The Rather-Clinton love fest is scheduled for Sunday, June 20 on "60 Minutes," in which Clinton will be allotted an unprecedented one-hour to catch Rather’s endless softballs, where Clinton will no doubt be given the red carpet treatment as a prelude. "

http://www.etherzone.com/2004/schm060904.shtml

"THE TRUTH IS NOT IN THEM
PURE POPPYCOCK
By: Phil Brennan
"And so they have already begun to nibble away at the edges, claiming as the despicable New York Times has told us, that Ronald Reagan was merely lucky enough to come along at the very time when, as everybody who was anybody in their world knew the Soviet empire was tottering along towards its collapse. So there, the Gipper just lucked out. "
http://www.etherzone.com/2004/bren060904.shtml

And don't miss this idiotic farrago of lies and stupidity...

http://www.etherzone.com/cgi-bin/gm/blog.shtml

I've given up expecting to see anybody from our "pro-gun democrats" EVER linking to anything but this sort of crap.

[MrBenchley]

15. Brockton man shot in face — retaliation suspected

"BROCKTON — A 22-year-old man was shot in the face in broad daylight Tuesday on Main Street in apparent retaliation for the fatal shooting of a teenager a day earlier on Belmont Street, investigators said.
Ezequiel "Nuno" Fernandes of Brockton was shot in the face at about 2:30 p.m. in front of a gas station on the busy street south of downtown.
He was conscious when police arrived and was rushed to Brockton Hospital. He was later transferred to Boston Medical Center. His condition was not immediately available this morning.
Witnesses told police the victim got out of his vehicle and approached two or three men on the street when he was shot on the street in front of the Getty station, 548 Main St."

http://www.enterprisenews.com/articles/2004/06/09/news/news/news03.txt

Guess not everyone knew that "you can't rely on the police" horseshit gun nuts spout constantly was just horseshit...

[MrBenchley]

16. Man Shot In Liquor Store Robbery (FL)

"A man is recovering after being shot Monday afternoon during a robbery at his liquor store.
According to investigators, Arthur Carrier Jr. was shot at Green Cove Liquors on Orange Avenue when he tried to stop the robber from getting away.
Arthur Carrier Sr., who is co-owner of the store, said his son is out of the hospital and recovering at home. But he's concerned that another violent robbery might occur.
"I don't want to be next," the elder Carrier said. "It's crazy for somebody to do that." "

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040609/lo_wjxt/2239729

(sarcasm)Good thing Jebbo Bush, the GOP and the gun lobby are doing everything they can to keep armed robbery a thriving enterprise...(/sarcasm)

[MrBenchley]

17. HMS students face punishment (TX)

"The pair of Houston Middle School students arrested last month for threatening to bring a shotgun to school and "make it like Columbine" are staring down a double barrel of punishment.
The seventh-grade boys, who were charged with assault and harassment, made the threats in instant messages sent to a 13-year-old female student's home computer. The girl's parents saw the messages and notified authorities. Investigators determined that the boys, 13 and 14, seemed to be joking in an attempt to scare the girl."

http://www.germantownnews.com/articles/2004/06/09/news/news3.txt

[MrBenchley]

22. Holsters recalled because strap cause gun to fire accidentally

Ironically, unsafe guns cannot be recalled because the CPSC has no power over the corrupt gun industry....

"WASHINGTON (AP) — A Pennsylvania company is recalling about 3,200 gun holsters because the strap can catch the trigger and cause the weapon to fire accidentally. Eight incidents of accidental firing have been reported, the Consumer Product Safety Commission said Wednesday.
The Fobus USA Holster Division of First Samco, of Southampton, Pa., is recalling its Fobus GLT holsters, designed for Series 17 and Series 19 Glock handguns fitted with a laser-sight light. There have been eight reports of guns discharging as they were inserted into the holster. One person injured a finger.
The recall, in cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, involves about 3,200 units with leather or plastic retention straps less than an inch wide. The holsters are inscribed with "GL 2*EMZ," "FOBUS" and "Made in Israel." They were sold at gun accessory retailers nationwide and on the Fobus Web site between March 2002 and March 2003 for about $40 to $45. "

http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/regulation/2004-06-09-holster_x.htm

[MrBenchley]

24. Police Investigate Several Shootings, One Fatal (OH)

"Local police are investigating several shootings that took place Tuesday, including the city's 35th homicide of the year.
According to a police press release, Anthony Davis, 48, was found lying on the front porch of a home at 3946 Llewellyn Ave. in Northside at about 10:35 p.m. Tuesday, WLWT Eyewitness News 5 reported.
Davis reportedly was shot a short distance away from the residence, then collapsed when he arrived on the porch, presumably to seek help. He was rushed to University Hospital, where he was pronounced dead from his gunshot wound. "

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/wisn/20040609/lo_wlwt/2240431

[MrBenchley]

25. HPD Officer Shot; Suspect Search Under Way

"A Houston police officer was shot three times while serving a search warrant Wednesday at a southeast Houston home, authorities told News2Houston.
Houston Police Department officials confirmed the officer, Matthew V. Richard, 32, was shot around 7:30 a.m. in the 1700 block of Napolean near Pease.
Richard was transported to Memorial Hermann Hospital with gunshot wounds to both legs and his hip. He was also shot in the chest; however, his bulletproof vest deflected the bullet, according to HPD spokesperson Chris Burns. "

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20040609/lo_kprc/2240553

[MrBenchley]

26. Suspect may have been stalking cops prior to shooting, police say (MI)

"Sterling Heights police are expected to announce this evening that Timothy W. Berner appeared to be stalking police officers prior to Friday's fatal shooting of Officer Mark Sawyers.
Police said the implication is that Sawyers was targeted not at random or for personal reasons, but because he was a police officer.
Berner is the lone suspect in Sawyers' slaying and has eluded police for five days. Police said he pulled his 1994 red Camaro along side Sawyers' patrol car in a parking lot at 15 Mile and Van Dyke, fired a shotgun, took the officer's weapon and drove away."

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm20192_20040609.htm

Wonder if he was influenced by the anti-law-enforcement theme that runs so often through RKBA propaganda...

[MrBenchley]

27. Arrest made in slaying of man whose body was left in trunk of car (VA)

"A man was charged with first-degree murder in the shooting of a Fredericksburg man whose body was found in the trunk of his car left on a Newport News street, police said Wednesday.
William Ola Henderson, 25, of Newport News, also was charged with use of a firearm to commit a felony when he was arrested late Tuesday in the slaying of 21-year-old John Register, police said.
Newport News police developed Henderson as a suspect after they began checking the area where Register's car was found, police spokesman Lou Thurston said. He declined to give details. "

http://www.wvec.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D833M4NO0.html

[JohnLocke]

29. Man paralyzed by stun gun suing Mesa, officer

Man paralyzed by stun gun suing Mesa, officer
By Kim Smith -- East Valley Truibune (AZ)
Wednesday, June 9, 2004

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32-year-old Nevada resident who fell out of a grapefruit tree and was paralyzed after being struck with a stun gun is suing Mesa and the officer who fired the weapon.
According to the lawsuit, filed Monday in Maricopa County Superior Court, Mesa police had a duty to help Bruce Bellemore come down, and officer Maxwell Van Natter's use of the stun gun was "careless, unreasonable, negligent, grossly negligent and improper."
(...)
On Feb. 11, Mesa officers went to a home in the 1500 block of East Mahoney Avenue after a neighbor reported seeing two people inside a home when nobody should have been there.
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Scottsdale lawyer Scott Ambrose states in the lawsuit that Bellemore climbed the tree to avoid several vicious dogs and was not a danger to anyone. He was having trouble getting out of the tree on his own because of an injured hand and wrist, Ambrose wrote.
Van Natter was the fourth officer on the scene and shot Bellemore with the stun gun 15 seconds after he arrived, the lawsuit claims. Bellemore was shot with the stun gun a second time after another 15 seconds.
The lawsuit further maintains that although Bellemore fell on his head and told police he couldn't breathe, officers told paramedics that Bellemore had injured his wrist.

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Read the rest here.