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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:33 PM
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Israeli-Palestinian soccer 'peace team' to face Barcelona's stars
The joint Israeli-Palestinian soccer "peace team," sponsored by Shimon Peres' Center for Peace, flew to Spain on Sunday for a friendly match against Spain's leading team Barcelona on Tuesday evening.

The "peace team" includes Israeli internationals and Palestinian players from the West Bank.

Most of the 27-member team, which was accompanied by a host of local sports and political dignitaries, flew from Tel Aviv for the match Tuesday, which comes at the end of a two-day Euro-Mediterranean summit in Barcelona. Leaders of all 25 European Union member states and 10 of Mediterranean neighbors are meeting in the city to discuss closer regional cooperation.

The team will be jointly coached by newly-appointed Israel national team coach Dror Kashtan and Palestinian coach Jamal Hadeideh of Tul Karm.

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I just put this in as a break from the usual "Pouring gasoline on the Flames" stuff

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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 04:23 AM
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1. If only, if only there was a shortage of er, 'big oil'.
'The facade of peace
By Amira Hass

Even those who don't understand a thing about soccer cannot ignore its importance in the lives of Palestinians. That's why the much ballyhooed initiative by the Peres Center for Peace - to organize an Israeli-Palestinian soccer team to play against Barcelona, in Barcelona, seems so logical and natural. Furthermore, according to the center's press release, it has been bringing together young Israeli and Palestinian players for the last three years. The television ads about the game send a message of peace. If Israelis and Palestinians can play on the same team, it is a sign that there can be peace between the nations. Shimon Peres, who together with actor Sean Connery is supposed to sit in the VIP gallery, is the most appropriate person to sell that sign.

If this had been initiated and financed by some tycoon or European soccer club, one could say that bringing some Palestinians and Israelis to play on one team would be like pretty cellophane wrapping. A private individual, even a tycoon, doesn't need to know that a young soccer player from Gaza, who can go to Barcelona or Tel Aviv under the cover of a well-publicized project, is not allowed to play in Jenin or Hebron. That's because Israel prohibits Gazans from traveling to the West Bank and vice versa, except in very special cases and after much bureaucratic effort, and sometimes only if the people asking to leave have good connections with institutions like the Peres Center for Peace and former senior officials in the Shin Bet.

A European soccer club is not supposed to go into the exhausting details of the systematic restrictions on movement that Israel has imposed on the Palestinians for the last 15 years. After all, most Israelis don't bother to find out those details. Why should such a European team know about 10 physical therapy students from Gaza who have been waging a legal battle for the right to go to school in Bethlehem, but whom the Israeli authorities refuse to allow out of Gaza for mysterious security reasons? Why should movie star Sean Connery know that the players from Kafr Qasem, for example, can play in Barcelona with their teammates from Rafah and Tul Karm but not in Kafr Qasem, let alone Rafah and Tul Karm? It's not Connery's role to know that Israel prohibits Israelis, including Arabs, from entering the territories of the Palestinian Authority, or that human rights groups and lawyers work for long months and sometimes years trying to get the Defense Ministry and army to allow Palestinians out for medical treatment, family matters, schooling - and are not always successful.

However, when the player behind the game is an institution named after a leading politician, this is no mere wrapping. When the person marketing the game is the same senior politician who for long years helped design policies that impose draconian limits on Palestinian movement - the cellophane is meant to hide, to portray the opposite of reality. That is deception.

Israeli-Palestinian meetings with the potential and basis for peaceful relations take place all the time, and without the public donations and journeys for a soccer game: at the joint demonstrations against the separation fence, in the activities of MachsomWatch and Yesh Din, in the weekly trips by Physicians for Human Rights to Palestinian villages. For an Israeli-Palestinian meeting to carry a sincere message of peace it must begin with one starting point: recognition that these are relations between the occupied and the occupier, and that the termination of that status is the precondition for peace.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/651686.html
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:57 PM
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5. incredible.....
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 03:01 PM by pelsar
absolutly disgusting ....and thats putting it mildly....

a small little step to help israelis and palestenains get along.....and it has to be turned upside down and become evil....and then to top it off the palestenains want to punish the players.

guess people can find evil even when people actually try to get along....amazing and disgusting at the sametime...i cant decide whats worse the writer of the article attempting to destroy a good gesture or others who like to take an absurd negative view...and put some oil on the fire and spread it around.....

words cannot describe how pathetic it is.....
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 04:05 AM
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6. Hass makes some claims in the article -
were any of them inaccurate?

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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 04:40 AM
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7. very accuate....
but thats hardly the point.....in a very dark tunnel where there is a bit of iight, for those of us who are interested in increasing the light, when people come and attempt to blow out that light..my reaction is one of disgust

its alway easy to find bad things...its a bit more difficult to find the good ones..and when they acutally show up, for those who want to supress them...well like i said, its far more than pathetic, its far more than mean..it verges on simply evil

not just the writers, the editors and the propagators of such destroyers of simple hope.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 04:54 AM
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2. What a nice post.
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 04:55 AM by Behind the Aegis
The idea of Israelis and Palestinians working together must be a real pisser for some. I guess even the nicest of things will be made HASStile. The fact that AMIR soccer club could be a step in the right direction, is offensive to some.
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eyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:30 AM
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3. Palestinian soccer union plans to punish 'Peace Team' players
The Palestinian FA plans to punish players under its jurisdiction for participating alongside Israelis in a "Peace Match" in Barcelona, an official said on Wednesday.

A 'Peace Team' of Israeli and Palestinian players lost 2-1 to Barcelona at the Nou Camp last week in front of 31,820 spectators, including many dignitaries.

"The Palestinian FA will form a committee to investigate the players who participated in the match ... everyone involved will be punished," senior FA official Jamal Zaqout told Reuters.


Haaretz
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:21 PM
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4. In the words of one of our worst Vice Presidents
(Yes - we did have a Vice President who challenged Dick Cheney and even Tom Delay)

        SPIRO T. AGNEW


And old Spiro uttered that famous phrase

        "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism"

which is where I would initially place the Palestinian FA.
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