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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:25 PM
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Israel blocks WBank village over barrier protests
RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Israeli forces blockaded a Palestinian village on Saturday in what the army called an effort to curb protests against the construction of a West Bank barrier deemed illegal by the World Court.

Troops were encircling Ni'lin, near the Palestinian city of Ramallah, to prevent would-be foreign protesters from joining protests against the barrier, a network of razor-wire fences and concrete barricades that cuts into occupied West Bank land.


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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:32 PM
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1. Here's a taste of how Israel's been dealing with her neighbors...
...for about the last 40 years or so, and with the full knowledge and sponsorship of the U.S. government, but NOT the U.S. citizenry. Perhaps we can change this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 02:17 AM
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:38 PM
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2. Out for a little stroll in the hills of the West Bank on a...
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:04 AM
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5. Sheall I post some YouTube videos
that celebrate children's deaths as martyrs?

In fact, childrens' television that has teaches children to hate?

That encourage death and destruction of Israelis?

Videos that show dancing in the street and handing out of candies by PAlestinians whenever they manage to murder an Israeli?

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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 08:19 AM
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6. Any cretin can post a YouTube video...
The trick is posting ones that have something to do with the OP, and not to do diversionary 'look over there!!' ones....
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 08:26 AM
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7. but if they do it means it's ok for me to do it doncha know n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 08:38 AM
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8. Frankly...
I'm not a mod, so one can take this or leave it; but I would be quite happy to see a rule against ANY posting of You-Tube videos in this forum. From any side.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 08:50 AM
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9. fwiw, I don't bother clicking on links to YouTube vids...
..and I'd like to see the end of them being posted in this forum. My sporadic enjoyment of YouTube wil remain strictly limited to music videos and having a chuckle at the video of my dumb oldest nephew doing burn-outs that led to my sister taking his car keys off him till he grew up a bit :)
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 06:31 AM
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4. Israel extends curfew in Palestinian town
<snip>

"Israel's army kept a curfew on a Palestinian town on Monday for the fourth day, choking off protests against a West Bank barrier declared illegal by the World Court four years ago this week.

Soldiers used tear gas and stun grenades to keep a small group of protesters and journalists from approaching the cordoned-off town from an overlooking hilltop.

"The closure and curfew are inhumane," said Oscar Johansson, 29, of Sweden, one of a clutch of pro-Palestinian foreign activists protesting against a section of the barrier being built at Nilin, near the West Bank city of Ramallah.

The army clamped a curfew on Nilin on Friday after violence erupted during protests at the site. An army spokesman said eight security personnel and two workers building the barrier were hurt in protests in the area over the past month.

On July 9, 2004, the World Court in The Hague ruled that Israel's construction of the 720-km (430-mile) barrier on occupied land was illegal. The United Nations says Israel has ignored that ruling."

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:48 AM
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10. Na'alin residents: IDF curfew made us stronger
Residents of West Bank village say will continue to protest construction of Israeli security fence

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3565679,00.html

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"Residents of the West Bank village of Na'alin near Ramallah vowed Tuesday to continue their protest against Israel's construction of the security fence.

Monday evening the Israeli army lifted a curfew it had imposed on the village over the weekend due to violent rallies that were recently held there in protest of the fence. Earlier in the day some 200 Palestinians, left-wing activists and foreign citizens held rallied against the curfew. Security forces dispersed the demonstrators with the use of rubber bullets and tear gas. Three protestors were detained during the clashes.

Following the demonstration officers from the IDF Coordination and Liaison Office held a meeting with representatives of the Popular Committee Against the Wall, after which it was decided that the army would lift the curfew. The committee members, however, said they would continue protesting against the fence's construction.

"The curfew and siege only made us more united," said committee member Ibrahim Amira, "we told the officers we wouldn’t stop our struggle if they don't halt the construction and reroute the fence to the Green Line."

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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:30 PM
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11. blockade lifted
In another development, Israel lifted a curfew on the Palestinian village of Nilin, a military spokeswoman said.

Ayman Nafi, the town's mayor, confirmed that the soldiers had pulled out.

"We woke up and luckily we did not see their presence," he said early on Tuesday.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/07/20087895858642878.html
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 12:57 PM
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12. It takes a village
The iron resistance of one Palestinian hamlet to Israel's 'ring of steel' has caught the imagination of the world's media

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"After four days of curfew, the village of Nilin is not a pretty sight. Torched cars lie strewn on the sides of the road, bedroom windows sport gaping bullet holes, and debris is scattered the length and breadth of the town: evidence of the brutality meted out indiscriminately by the army against the locals.

As I followed the trail of destruction, the tales of woe grew ever darker and ever more indicting of the Israel Defence Force's cruelty. "Look what they did to me!" screamed an elderly grandmother, hoisting up her robes to display the raw wounds inflicted by soldiers who had thrown her against a stone wall during a raid. She began sobbing as she recounted the events of earlier in the week, utterly bewildered as to how she had come to be mistreated so.

Upstairs, her middle-aged son clutched his two children to his side as he recounted the night the troops burst into his home.

"Imagine what it does to your son and daughter when they see you beaten by a soldier," Hillal Khawaja said flatly. He showed us the wreckage of a room that had borne the brunt of the military's ire: computers ripped from their sockets, beds smashed and furniture overturned, nothing had been spared the wrath of the marauding infantry.

Further up the road, a family pointed out the scorched linoleum in their kitchen and the shattered glass of their windows, the result of a random bullet and grenade attack launched by passing jeeps. "We were inches away from where the shells landed," said the father of the house, as his children looked on timidly. "If we had been any closer, we'd have had no chance."

Three residents weren't so lucky. The trio were hit with live fire during the incursion. All are still in hospital with the bullets still lodged inside them; one entered a man's spine, and it will be a miracle if he can walk again after surgery.

The psychological trauma is just as bad, with parents talking of children terrified to sleep in their family homes, convinced that the soldiers will come back, and turn their lives into teargas- and bullet-filled nightmares once more. However, one local activist, Hindi Mesleh, says: "Israel has occupied us for 60 years, and still we resist; four days more isn't going to stop us." He has been instrumental in the campaign against the construction of the separation wall through Nilin's land, and scoffs at the idea that the army can ever bring a halt to the villagers' protests.

His resolute spirit was evident amongst the entire town on Thursday, as hundreds of residents braved the ring of steel around them and took to the fields to demonstrate against the wall once again. The rally had been billed as a "monumental" gathering to mark the fourth anniversary of the international court of justice's Advisory Opinion against the wall, and scores of activists made it in through the barricades to swell the numbers marching determinedly through the olive groves."

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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:40 PM
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13. Ah yes,
just another Seth Freedman anti Israel article.

from a response..

'Various pro-Palestinian organizations send people to Israel as tourists who then proceed to break the law and travel to the village of Nilin (which has become a symbolic Palestinian "suffering" village) where they demonstrate with the Palestinians against the barrier. Although it is illegal (for the tourists, not for the Palestinians) I have no problem with that as long as it is not violent.


But over the past several months these demonstrations have become increasingly violent and both Israeli, Palestinians, and "tourists" are being injured. In order to put an end to the violence, Israel has completely cut off the village of Nilin, and it will remain cut off for days, weeks, or months until the violence ends.'

There, fixed it.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:19 AM
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15. Ah yes, we all know by now that you think anyone critical of Israel = anti-Israel...
And after a knee-jerk attack on Seth Freedman (you obviously don't realise he's Israeli and served in the IDF, so it's kind of pathetic to see an American calling an Israeli 'anti-Israel') you then take some anonymous comment and brandish it without worrying the slightest bit about 'bias' or credentials or anything you 'worry' so much about when it comes to reading something you don't approve of.

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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:10 AM
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16. Sorry to
disappoint you but I am well aware of who Freedman is, the anti-Israel Guardian's frequent Comment is Free anti-Israel (British born) contributor. I'm suprised Israel has not revoked his Israeli passport by now seeing as how there have been so many complaints made against him.

Just look at the titles of just a few of his recent articles and still try to tell me he is not anti Israel, gimme a break!


Hebron's orphans
Jun 30 2008: Seth Freedman: Harassment by the Israeli authorities leaves Palestinians angry and despairing. Could that be the intention?

What's left in Israel
Jun 26 2008: Seth Freedman: Israeli socialism may have collapsed, but the capitalism filling the vacuum could at least bring peace with the Palestinians

Culture of fear
Jun 22 2008: Seth Freedman: History has handed the Jewish people the fear of annihilation on a plate – but while the fear exists, what is feared may not

A drip, drip solution?
Jun 17 2008: Seth Freedman: A British-run initiative in Bethlehem is trying to tackle the serious water shortages of Palestinians

Unified? Not for the Palestinians
Jun 11 2008: Seth Freedman: For the non-Jewish half of Jerusalem, celebrations for the 'unified' city were inappropriate and offensive

A village in its death throes
Jun 9 2008: Seth Freedman: The bloody violence in Nilin showed me that Israel's security wall could be the final blow in the destruction of Palestine

No refuge from responsibility
May 29 2008: Seth Freedman: Attacks on Unrwa are disingenuous and serve only to absolve Israel of culpability for the squalor and limbo in which Palestinians exist

Citizens, but second-class
May 26 2008: Seth Freedman: The bedouins of the Negev desert carry Israeli ID, but they've been treated appallingly by the state of which they form a part

A true housing crisis
May 22 2008: Seth Freedman: The scale of the Israeli government's crimes in the West Bank is all too clear on a tour organised by a local NGO

Repairing the world
May 19 2008: Seth Freedman: Members of Noam and Israel Activists show that Zionism can be about more than the interests of just one community

The continuing catastrophe
May 16 2008: Seth Freedman: Israel's anniversary celebrations were followed yesterday by a day of mourning for Palestinians, marking 60 years since the Nakba

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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:36 AM
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17. So as well as seeing any criticism of israel as anti-Israel, you want Israel to be a fascist state
Can I ask you what yr political leanings are? I've never yet encountered a left-winger who advocates any country stripping citizenship from its citizens because they dare to criticise their own countries policies. That's the stuff fascism is made of, and you should be ashamed of yrself for holding those sort of beliefs.

Explain to me very carefully what is 'anti-Israel' about these articles you listed:

Repairing the world
May 19 2008: Seth Freedman: Members of Noam and Israel Activists show that Zionism can be about more than the interests of just one community (it's anti-Israel to write about Zionism being a multi-faceted thing??)

The continuing catastrophe
May 16 2008: Seth Freedman: Israel's anniversary celebrations were followed yesterday by a day of mourning for Palestinians, marking 60 years since the Nakba (it's anti-Israel to recognise the suffering of the Palestinian people???)

Citizens, but second-class
May 26 2008: Seth Freedman: The bedouins of the Negev desert carry Israeli ID, but they've been treated appallingly by the state of which they form a part (it's anti-Israel to talk about the bad treatment received by some Israeli citizens???)

A drip, drip solution?
Jun 17 2008: Seth Freedman: A British-run initiative in Bethlehem is trying to tackle the serious water shortages of Palestinians(and how is it anti-Israel to talk about an initiative to try to tackle water shortagtes??)

Seriously, it'd help if you read what you copied and pasted before you plonked it into a post.







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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 03:15 PM
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14. Oh, this is an "Israel has occupied us for 60 years" type of tripe
Just put it on ignore as further nonsense and anti-Israel propaganda.

Once you read that, the rest of the article is meaningless.
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