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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 09:12 PM
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Netanyahu at Holocaust ceremony: Stop Iran
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"The specter of Iran hovered over the start of Israel's annual memorial day for the 6 million Jews killed by Nazis in the Holocaust of World War II, as Israeli leaders warned of an Iranian nuclear program they believe is aimed at weapons production.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu complained bitterly about international reaction to what he called Iran's drive toward nuclear bombs and its intention to destroy Israel, but he did not hint at a possible Israeli response.

"We encounter in the best case a limp reaction, and even that is fading," Netanyahu said Sunday. "We do not hear the necessary rejection, no harsh denunciation, no outcry."

Netanyahu spoke at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, Israel's official Holocaust memorial authority, before hundreds of Holocaust survivors and their families, Israeli leaders, diplomats and others. A military honor guard stood at one side of the podium and a girls' choir on the other.

"If we have learned anything from the Holocaust," Netanyahu said, "it is that we must not be silent or be deterred in the face of evil."

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Netanyahu: World is gradually accepting Iran's extermination calls

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"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday called on the world "to confront Iran's exterminatory intentions and act resolutely to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons."

Netanyahu spoke at the state ceremony on the eve of the Holocaust Martyrs and Heroes Day at the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem.

"The historic failure of free societies to confront the Nazi beast was that they did not face it in time," Netanyahu said. "And today we are witness to the old hatred of Jews once again, fueled by extremist Islamic authorities, led by Iran and its satellites.

"Iran's leadership is racing to develop nuclear weapons and declares its intention to destroy Israel. The world is gradually accepting Iran's exterminatory declarations regarding Israel and still we do not see the international determination required to stop the arming of Iran. But if we learned something from the Holocaust, it is that we cannot remain quiet or flinch in the face of evil."

"Earlier in the ceremony, President Shimon Peres said the world must not repeat its indifference at the face of new cries for the destruction of the Jewish people.

Peres went on to say that "Israel will never forget the two decrees which the Holocaust enforced."

"The firm demand to sustain an independent Jewish state, one that holds its security in its own hands while at the same time tirelessly seeking peace as well as the demand to treat threats of annihilation, Holocaust denials, and terror mongering with the utmost severity."

Referring to comments made by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has threatened to "wipe the Zionist regime off the map," Peres said that it was Israel's right "and duty to demand the nations of the worlds never to repeat their indifference, one which cost millions of lives, including their own."

"The ears of the United Nations must be attuned to the threats of annihilation made by one member of the UN against another. Otherwise, the foundation which holds the UN charter will collapse," Peres said."

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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 10:02 PM
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1. Is the Israeli PM going to try and guilt the west into attacking Iran?

That's not a winning strategy.

"But if we learned something from the Holocaust, it is that we cannot remain quiet or flinch in the face of evil."


Please, Israel is capable of defending itself. It is capable of raining death down upon Iran if it so chooses.

The funny thing is that a country that talks about the holocaust shouldn't expect other countries to start one in the name of said country. Netanyahu is playing the victim and asking for the green light to destroy...or to get others to destroy parts of Iran for him.

Fuck the Israeli war hawks.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 01:12 AM
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2. Israel needs hwlp from "the west" that would most likely be US
in order to attack Iran I have read that there are refueling problems and possible airspace issues too, unless of course Israel took the long route over the Red Sea, gulf of Aden, Arabian sea but again there is the fuel issue and also it is unclear if Israel has the type of bunker buster bombs needed meaning it may require a nuclear attack to be effective in short they need help that not even Dub'ya would give them to do this without violating the airspace of several countries and using nukes,
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 12:17 PM
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3. Not to mention the problem with attacking a country that has not attacked them.
Understandably, Israel wants to protect itself from the possibility of an Iranian attack, but by initiating an attack on Iran that doesn't help matters. In fact it plays to, and is a vindication to, the Muslim world that Israel is a threat that will attack anybody that it wants or get big daddy USA to attack for it.

I would suggest to the Israelis that diplomacy is the better option. The USA didn't attack the Soviet Union over Kruchev's bellicose statements at the U.N. regarding burying the west. That would have been foolish to do that just in the same way would it be fore present day Israel.

Netanyahu needs to refrain from the war hawk stance and act like a grownup on the world stage.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 02:16 PM
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4. Oops. Spelling.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 03:04 PM
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5. The only stage is for U.S. televisions
the rest of the world pretty much knows what's going on
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 03:48 PM
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6. They don't fear that Iran would attack Israel
What they fear is that a nuclear armed Iran will change the game in terms of power in the middle east. Israel is not alone in this concern.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 06:27 PM
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8. Iran has been attacking Israel through Hezbollah and Hamas for quite some time now
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 06:32 PM
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9. And Israel is an apartheid state. An eye for an eye.

I'd be more sympathetic towards Israel if their right wing leadership weren't a bunch of assholes.

It's a given that the Iranians are assholes. They're also not our supposed allies.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 06:33 PM
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10. Iran would still attack Israel even if Israel's behavior was perfect
BTW, you were wrong that Iran hasn't attacked Israel.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 06:49 PM
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11. NEWSFLASH. Israel is still an apartheid state. And BTW...

they won't let the Palestinians declare independence...and an extra added BTW... don't lie about what I have written.

Lying about others is so unDU. You should know better.


And more to the point...The Israeli right wing government are a bunch of George-Bush style assholes.



I also noted this: It's a given that the Iranians are assholes. They're also not our supposed allies.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 06:52 PM
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12. No it's not. You're as wrong WRT apartheid as you were WRT Iran never attacking Israel
Edited on Mon Apr-12-10 06:55 PM by shira
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 06:56 PM
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13. Keep on denying it. It doesn't change the fact of what Israel has become.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 07:02 PM
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14. Why do you like to continue lying about what I have written?

Please check the DU rules.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 07:26 PM
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15. How did I lie about what you wrote?
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 08:06 PM
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16. Please check the DU rules, and don't waste my time, sweetheart.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 06:25 PM
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7. Using Holocaust Remembrance for sabre-rattling cheapens the meaning of this solemn memorial
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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 08:15 PM
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17. I agree totally
The Holocaust was the greatest criminal atrocity ever comitted in the history of humanity. Don't desecrate the memories of the poor souls who perished in it for your own political ends.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:30 AM
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18. Not to give top billing, but the European genocide against the native population of the Americas
probably was more effective in destroying many whole cultures. World history is full of monstrous expansionist empires which have slaughtered millions for control over land and resources, as the US has been doing for over a century.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:36 AM
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19. agreed 101% n/t
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 05:44 AM
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20. Disgusting.
The dispute between Iran and Israel has NOTHING to do with the Holocaust. And neither does the dispute between Israelis and Palestinians.

It's completely inappropriate to reference the Holocaust with anything in contemporary Middle East politics. That crime was solely the crime of European Christians.
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