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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 08:03 AM
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Free Gaza: Israel’s Military Lies About Radio Transmissions
Free Gaza: Israel’s Military Lies About Radio Transmissions

By Greta Berlin - Radio transmissions released by the Israeli military which allegedly document provocative and offensive remarks by Mavi Marmara crewmembers are fraudulent according to other members of the Freedom Flotilla.

Mavi Marmara was a Turkish ship among the Free Gaza aid Flotilla that was attacked on Monday by the Israeli military while sailing in international waters and heading to the besieged Gaza Strip. Nine people on board the Mavi Marmara were killed another 54 were injured in the Israeli attack.

Huwaida Arraf, who was on the Challenger 1, another ship in the convoy, has confirmed that her voice is featured in the recordings of what are said to be transmissions between the Mavi Maramara and the Israeli Navy. In this part of the recording, she can be heard saying, "we have permission from the Gaza Port Authority to enter."

Arraf claims that the presence of her voice in the alleged transmissions "proves that the audio has been edited by the Israeli military and sheds serious doubt on the authenticity of the audio material as a whole, as does the sound and voice quality of the other statements supposedly made by people on the Mavi Marmara."

All video and audio taken by journalists and passengers on the night of the flotilla raid has been confiscated by Israel, which is only releasing highly edited segments to the media.

http://english.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8288
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 08:58 AM
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1. The PR Department at IDF is acting like it's on meth or something.
They had to know that they'd be caught. Maybe they just figure it won't matter because people don't follow up very well.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:01 AM
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2. Free Gaza cannot even condemn openly hostile Jew hating bigots invoking "death to Jews"
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 09:09 AM by shira
Why should anyone with a conscience take Free Gaza seriously regarding anything pertaining to Jews?

:shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:06 AM
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3. Yes, the IDF was fabricating, again.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:10 AM
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4. On the contrary. Here Free Gaza blasts the IDF for saying Israelis should "go back to Auschwitz"
A pretty disgusting terror tactic for the IDF to use against their own, don't you think?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:17 AM
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5. Yeah, there's no way the haters on the boat invoking "death to Jews" would ever ...
...say "go back to Auschwitz".

:eyes:

Once the FGM and ISM start condemning those in their ranks who are openly antisemitic, no one should take a word they say seriously.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:22 AM
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6. You seem to be missing that it was the IDF or Israeli govt. who edited in those words.
The original video released by the IDF had no such statements.


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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 10:54 AM
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8. or more likely, a Mossad voice actor saying "go back to Auschwitz"
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 10:55 AM by backscatter712
Perhaps Israel's government would like to condemn those in its ranks who say antisemitic things?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:50 AM
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13. UNEDITED RADIO TRANSMISSION: "GO BACK TO AUSCHWITZ" (2.05 and 5.42)
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:27 PM
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23. Sourced from IDF... I could splice something like that up on my PC.
But by all means, continue to spread tainted evidence...
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:09 PM
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40. When you have proof that the IDF routinely fabricates bullshit, let us know
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:03 AM
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9. Lol shira IDF was caught
as if the 9/11 references were not a clue
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:21 AM
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10. Or as if no one would remember the original video released less than a week
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 11:30 AM by EFerrari
earlier of the same exchange. :crazy:

Maybe I should take another look at shira's video from the hate site. I'm sure that is fake, too.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:26 AM
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11. what I found od about the vid I think your
referring to is that PalWatch claims its from A;l Jazeera but their usual banner is not on the vid also some of the comments from when it was first released said that the translation was "off" or inaccurate
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:29 AM
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12. Interesting. Maybe Al jazeera would respond to an inquiry. n/t
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:57 AM
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15. Now that the 2 of you were corrected on the Auschwitz reference, here's MEMRI...
....with the same recording of the terror activists calling for death to Jews:
http://www.memri.org/flotilla/

Why not send it to someone who can read the Arabic subtitles and understand what the reporter is saying?

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:02 PM
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16. LOL MEMRI or exMossad and Shabak n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:11 PM
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20. Are you on drugs, shira? I was the one that posted the original video
the IDF released and pointed out that they were lying their @sses off.

I have emailed Al Jazeera and also Jamal Dajani to help me figure out how this video is bullshit. I promise to post my results.

Btw, you should use the youtube link because the link to the hate site memri tends to crash browsers. :hi:
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:29 PM
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25. Lol no but you has been corrected
shall we revisit the thread from Tuesday where you prove yourself totally in capable of honesty?

you know with false claims that IHH was liste as terror organization by the US and kept it up for hours even after you had been shown the US State departments list of terror organizations

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=315316


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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:41 PM
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29. Still lying? Have you no shame? The IHH is part of the Union of Good, which is a terror org.
....listed by the US Treasury Dept.

For some odd reason only known to you, the US Treasury Dept. doesn't count.

:shrug:
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:56 PM
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32. sigh shira it was a 2008 letter that did not mention IHH at all
but do not stop shira it serves quite well
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:59 PM
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34. Do you deny that the IHH was and most likely still is part of the Union of Good?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:00 PM
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35. see post #33 and really give a reason n/t
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:58 PM
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33. also explain why IHH is not on the State Depatments 2010 list of terror organizations n/t
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:03 PM
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36. Probably because it's connected mostly to FUNDING terror, not initiating it.
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 01:07 PM by shira
Sorta like being a big donor and apologist for the KKK when the KKK sheet heads were doing all sorts of totally illegal, nasty things to blacks, jews, etc.

Or being Iran and funding Hamas, Hezbollah, etc...

Nasty.

========

ETA:
I'm referring to the Union of Good, for which IHH is one of many groups under that terror umbrella.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:33 PM
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42. LOL n/t
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:56 PM
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43. Good, now stop lying about IHH's lack of terror ties.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:13 PM
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44. I.m not the one lieing you claimed IHH was considered a terror organization by the US
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 02:13 PM by azurnoir
remember if not I'll be more than happy to post the comment
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:34 PM
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45. They are, as part of the Union of Good which the US Treasury labels a terror org.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:51 AM
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14. see #13 above. UNEDITED RADIO TRANSMISSION at 2.05
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:03 PM
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17. keep catapulting n/t
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:07 PM
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18. Still in a state of denial, I see.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:11 PM
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21. Just honesty something which has been proven to be beyond you n/t
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:24 PM
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22. Speaking of honesty, point to something by MEMRI, PMW, or Israel WRT flotilla that's not honest
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 12:25 PM by shira
Let's see how honest you can be.

You think you have good reason to doubt any source that dares to criticize your favorite anti-Israel activists so prove it.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:31 PM
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26. Thats what this thread is about shira n/t
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:08 PM
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19. chain of custody?
thx.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:28 PM
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24. Ms. Arraf was not even ON the Mavi Marmara.
She was on The Challenger.

Epic fail.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:39 PM
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27. The IDF transmission went out to all boats and hers was one of six that could respond to the IDF
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:40 PM
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28.  So, the IDF audio is of the passengers on the Mavi Marmara except
it isn't? Is that your story now?

LOL
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:43 PM
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30. Believe what you want. No amount of logic, reasoning, or fact will be enough for you.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:44 PM
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31. Take it up with the IDF. I didn't release this fabrication and claim it was the Mavi Marmara.
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 12:44 PM by EFerrari
LOL
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:05 PM
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37. You have no reason to believe the unedited version is a fabrication
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:07 PM
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38. Take it up with the IDF. They made the claim is was the Marmara, not me. n/t
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:08 PM
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39. And the guy who said Marmara corrected himself later on, explaining that all ships were within range
You still have zero reason to believe the transmission is bogus.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:17 PM
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41. Take it up with the IDF. They made the claim it was the Marmara. n/t
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:23 AM
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7. Told you so! n/t
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