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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:09 AM
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IDF soldiers kill armed Palestinian in West Bank
A Palestinian was killed by Israeli soldiers on Thursday at an army post near the settlement of Mevo Dotan in the northern West Bank.

The man was shot and killed by Israel Defense Forces soldiers after he opened fire on them, the IDF spokesman said.

No IDF soldiers were wounded in the operation.

The circumstances under which the Palestinian was killed are currently being investigated.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-soldiers-kill-armed-palestinian-in-west-bank-1.338107
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:33 AM
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1. Moral of the story: Don't open fire on the IDF
Good for the IDF.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:07 AM
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2. Of course, the soldiers were armed, too...
so the article is lop-sided in that regard.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:08 AM
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3. What country has un-armed soldiers?
Seems pretty self-evident.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:12 AM
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4. I was being rhetorical, but you make my point
How else would one combat a hostile, armed occupier? :shrug:
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:48 AM
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5. How do you feel about attacks on American soldiers stationed in Iraq?
Just curious.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 09:36 AM
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6. We illegally invaded Iraq, thus
I believe we deserve what we get. Can you blame the Iraqi people for defending their nation? Could you imagine the insurgency that would rise if someone tried to 'liberate' the US?

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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 11:48 AM
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9. Thanks for sharing your opinions
I do appreciate your consistency on these matters.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 10:31 AM
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7. Less justifiable.
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 10:35 AM by Donald Ian Rankin
The American presence in Iraq has the support of the nearest thing Iraq has to a legitimate government, making it's legitimacy somewhat cloudy.

The Israeli presence in Palestine does not; its legitimacy is in no way cloudy.



Incidentally, if pressed to clarify what I meant my "legitimacy" beyond "justifiability" I would struggle, I think - I don't thing the UN is worth the paper it is printed on; while I'm happy to point out that e.g. Israel's occupation of Palestine is illegal to those who care about these things, I don't think that that fact is necessarily a clincher. The US invasion of Iraq was clearly illegal; I don't know for sure (or very much care) whether its continued presence now that there's a different government which supports it in place is, but I assume it is.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 11:40 AM
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8. Absolutely stunning comment
Americans invaded a country that is nowhere near the US and posed zero military threat to America in any respect.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed as a result of this illegal and unwarranted invasion and continued occupation.

To claim that there is any kind of potential legitimacy to the American presence in Iraq in light of the means by which that invasion of occupation occurs boggles the mind.

Israel was actually invaded in 1967 by Jordan and Egypt. The West Bank and Gaza respectively were occupied by those two countries at the time of that invasion. Thousands of Israelis were killed or wounded in this conflict.

This in stark comparison to the Iraqi invasion which was predicated on nothing of the kind.

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:10 PM
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10. In 1967 Israel started the war by attacking Egypt under the IMO
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 04:12 PM by azurnoir
dubious claim that Egypt's blockade of the strait Tiran justified an attack, the same sort of blockade that Israel is imposing on Gaza today

It should also be noted that Israel has since signed treaties with both Egypt and Jordan, to claim that continued occupation of the WB is justified based on events of 44 years ago is ridiculous
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:24 PM
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11. You don't think the government of Iraq gets a say in the matter? N.T.
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