Ayear of silence since heroine's death

[Comadreja]

A year of silence since Rachel Corrie died :

The death of Rachel Corrie, and the response that her case has - and
has not - received, reveal several disturbing, indeed immoral and
criminal, truths.
http://www.iht.com/articles/508588.html


"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do." : Samuel P. Huntington

[Herschel]

1. She is missed

by her terrorist friends, I'm sure.

[Darranar]

3. If you would like to actually provide evidence...

supporting your accusations, go right ahead.

All I've seen is junk posted again and again, debunked multiple times.

[lefty_mcduff]

6. Well, seeing as how you wish to

extend the 'innocent until proven guilty' courtesy to the bulldozer driver in this case, perhaps you'd be consistent enough to extent the same courtesy to the memory of Ms. Corrie.

Despite your often disparaging comments, you have yet to offer one shred of proof that Ms. Corrie has been *convicted* of *any* wrong-doing, yet alone terrorist activities.

And seeing as how you feel that some sympathy should be extended to that very same bulldozer driver (because of his 'upset' - your words) perhaps you'd be consistent enough to extend *that* courtesy to Ms. Corrie's family. and others who wish to mourn her.

Oh fuck, there I go again...

[Nlighten1]

2. Non-westerners...

are largely brain-washed about their country...

[madrchsod]

4. oh no

lol-this was covered this week- go to search and you`ll see what happened...it wasn`t pretty....

[Muddleoftheroad]

5. Would that it were silence

Personally, I'm inundated.

[JohnLocke]

7. Heroine?!

She was a member of a group that supports terrorists. Young, idealistic -- and unfortunately sucked into this group.

[Darranar]

8. See post #3.

[GabysPoppy]

9. I posted your "evidence"

right from their own website!! What more do you want?

[Darranar]

10. Osama bin Laden doesn't like Bush...

and, unless I'm badly mistaken, neither do you.

Do you support Al Qaeda? I think not.

[Name removed]

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[Violet_Crumble]

13. What you posted didn't give evidence of supporting terrorism...

ISM supports Hamas, plain and simple.

Funny. If it was so plain and simple, it'd be very easy for people to come up with some credible evidence that shows as much....


Violet...

[Darranar]

14. Very simply...

Agreeing with someone on some things is not proof that one agrees with that someone on everything.

You have not shown that the "ISM supports Hamas, plain and simple". All you have shown is that some of their stated goals are similar to Hamas's.

[Violet_Crumble]

15. I just revisited GP's 'evidence' from the ISM site...

And the 'evidence' consists solely of this:

"We are opposed to the existence of the apartheid colonial settler state of Israel, as it is based on the racist ideology of Zionism and is an expression of colonialism and imperialism, and we stand for the total liberation of all of historic Palestine."

(I'd provide a link to the website itself, but GP didn't put it in his post)

While that may well be a position disagreed with by many, including myself, it's in no way any evidence of supporting Hamas. In fact, in the next post, tinnypriv posts the sentence directly before it from the ISM site:

"We call for an immediate end to the Israeli occupation of all Palestinian territories, the recognition of the full, non-negotiable human right of return for all Palestinian refugees, and full political, social and economic equality under law for all people in historic Palestine."

Somehow I don't think full political, social and economic equality under law for all people is something that Hamas is into ;)

Saying that an individual or a group supports a terrorist group because it agrees with one of its goals (in this case the liberation of historic Palestine) is just the same as calling those of us who wanted the British out of Northern Ireland terrorist supporters because the IRA just happened to believe the same thing. What's important is the means taken to achieve the goal, and if the ISM supported violent means and attacks on civilians to try to achieve that end, then I'd be less inclined to see them in a favourable light. But saying that folk who follow non-violent resistance and who want equal rights for all the same as a group like Hamas, which has zero interest in any rights at all for Jews, women, gays, in fact anyone but fellow religious whackjobs, and does engage in violent attacks aimed at civilians, is exactly the same as claiming that I support Bush's goals, because when it came to Afghanistan I actually did want to see something done about the appalling treatment of women there...

Violet...

[Violet_Crumble]

11. No, you didn't...

Nothing that was posted showed any evidence at all of Rachel Corrie or the ISM being terrorist-supporters. What more do we want? Well, for a start how about posting some actual credible evidence of her being a terrorist supporter, not unrelated stuff that has zero to do with someone being a terrorist supporter or not. Then again, I've asked for this evidence plenty of times, and each time it gets ignored, so it's pretty clear that this evidence just doesn't exist...


Violet...

[drdon326]

17. I think I'm going to need some "HEROIN"..

if someone calls her a "HEROINE" AGAIN.

[Violet_Crumble]

18. Okay...

Rachel Corrie was a heroine! ;)


Violet...

[drdon326]

16. DUPE # 2..This article has more lives than Saint Rachel did.

how many times do we have to hear from her....

cousin??

[Lithos]

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