P.A. Terrorists Descend To New Lows

[Gimel]

Palestinian terrorists were willing to sacrifice a 10-year-old Arab boy in the course of an attempt to perpetrate a terrorist attack against Israelis yesterday.


The incident occurred at the Hawara checkpoint near Shechem in the Shomron. An alert policewoman saw a boy carrying three packs, including one with wires coming out. She questioned him briefly, and he stuttered that he has been asked to deliver it to someone. The policewoman put the suspicious bag aside, and called the commanding officer. He distanced everyone from the site, and sappers detonated the bomb in a controlled explosion.


Witnesses said that "screws and nuts flew in all directions, and a small crater was formed at the site." The explosives vest was estimated at 7-10 kilograms. The bomb was apparently meant to be delivered to a suicide terrorist, or to go off via the activation of a cellular phone in the bomb-pack. A technical "mal"-function, however, prevented the explosion - which would have killed not only Israeli soldiers at the checkpoint, but also the Arab boy.

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=59502

[Resistance]

1. LOL

more "reports" from the racist Israel National News.

Umm, thanks for posting this. I guess.

[Evil_Dewers]

2. How many times must we read this story?

Give a rest. You don't see any new Corrie threads, do ya?

[displacedvermoter]

3. Terror goes round and round, and at some point somebody

has to say ENOUGH!

See below link. That "ten year old boy" could just as easily be killed in his bed in an israeli missile attack, and then it would be unfortunate "collateral damage" in the war on terror, and perfectly acceptable to you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x60731

It has to stop somewhere, or so it seems to me.

[Gimel]

4. This is not my thought

I've never said or indicated that any civilian deaths were "perfectly acceptable". That is assuming too much.

The child, fortunately escaped unharmed. However, many Israelis and Palestinians could have been killed in this attempted attack. Israelis have said "ENOUGH" very loudly. So they built a wall to help keep terrorists out. If you really mean "ENOUGH" you would support the anti-terror fence, and support it enthusiastically.

[Resistance]

5. if the Wall weren't meant to steal land

it would be met with much more support. Instead, as usual, Israel's goal of stealing more continues on and on.

[Evil_Dewers]

7. You gotta love euphemisms...

"anti-terror fence" is actually "land stealing wall of bigotry."

[Muddleoftheroad]

8. What is bigoted about a fence designed to protect you from attack

Does that make the chain link fence in my yard a show of bigotry because it keeps my neighbros out?

[Evil_Dewers]

9. The "peace fence" LOL isn't a chain link fence.

It is a concrete wall in many, many places only where "legal" border crossings occur.

Did the Great Wall of China prevent the Mongols from attacking?

[Muddleoftheroad]

22. That doesn't make it bigoted

You didn't answer the question I asked.

Frankly, there should be NO Palestinians crossing into Israel until there is peace.

[_Jumper_]

15. Stealing land for another ethnic group isn't bigoted?

Would MLK approve of creating Bandustans for Palestinians in the West Bank?

[Muddleoftheroad]

23. I don't support Bantustans

I support the eventual creation of a Palestinian state AFTER they have ended the terror groups.

[Name removed]

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[redqueen]

35. The thing is, though

if Israel were truly interested in stopping the terror groups, they woulnd't have built the wall on Palestinian territory. They know full well this will incite further violence.

And the MIC rages on, undeterred.

[Muddleoftheroad]

37. They didn't, they built it on disputed territory

[redqueen]

38. ?

I've heard so many people claim it's being built at least partially on Palestinian lands. I guess they're using hyperbole, as far as you are concerned?

By any chance do you have a source which says the areas are not actually Palestinian?

[Muddleoftheroad]

40. There is no such thing as a Palestinian state

So they couldn't possibly be Palestinian lands. They are lands administered by the one state that has claim to them -- Israel.

[redqueen]

41. Wha?

So that whole area is all Israel, and the Palestinians are just there as guests?

WTF?!

Would someone please explain this logically?

[BowlingForPalestine]

27. Can't answer your question until you answer this:

Is your fence in your neighbor's yard?

[Resistance]

10. heh

you got it right, Evil

[meti57b]

11. the "wall" is not intended to steal land.....

97% of of the length of the security barrier is fence, which is movable and removable when the terrorist attacks end.

[Evil_Dewers]

12. What percentage of West Bank/Gaza land will be west of the wall?

The terrorist attacks won't end as long as Israeli helicopter gunships fly over the wall and fire missiles into apartment buildings and refugee camps.

[BowlingForPalestine]

29. LOL...yeah...

...and so were the "temporary settlements."

:eyes:

[Gimel]

19. That is an old saw

by now we're tired of it.

[Evil_Dewers]

6. Why are the building the wall IN the West Bank?

Another land grab?

[meti57b]

14. No, it is not a "land grab, and ....

it is also not "another" land grab. The location of the security barrier is based on the local topography, to provide the best defense. 97% of the length of the security barrier is fence, which is readily movable and removable, when the terrorist attack end. And, even a wall can be removed when the conditions warrant removal.

[Evil_Dewers]

16. When will Israel's "war on terror" end?

When all its "enemies" are exterminated?

[Resistance]

17. nah

I say when enough land has been stolen. (It's apparently not enough yet)

[Name removed]

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[BowlingForPalestine]

26. I was going to post a response....

...but...um Resistance had it covered.


So the wall is built on Palestinian soil for what did you say? Something about "defense."

How much is that argument you're selling? Hope it ain't much.

[GabysPoppy]

18. More on the story

The Tanzim members who sent the boy knew the soldiers might notice and check his loaded bag, and therefore they put a cellular phone in it. Their diabolical plan was to watch the roadblock from a hiding place, and if the child was stopped for a check that could expose the contraband – to blow up the charge on his back from a distance, even though they knew the boy would be a victim. The terrorists’ plan was thwarted thanks to the alertness of one of the female military police officers at the roadblock, and thanks to a warning the GSS sent to forces in the Nablus area yesterday morning about the intention to try and carry out such an attack. The cellular phone in the bag was discovered only after the child was caught and questioned by the GSS. The investigation found that the terrorists tried to blow the charge up at the roadblock by dialing to the cellular phone, but a technical error disrupted the plan.

From the English version of Maariv

Who considered this child "collateral damage"?

[Evil_Dewers]

20. Somebody here said the killing of children is sometimes necessary.

[MrPrax]

21. Important Points to Keep in Mind...

1) bomb didn't go off
2) bomb given to the boy from an unidentified source
3) story was widely widely disseminated in the western media, even though the bomb didn't kill anyone

Just stating the facts...

[Gimel]

24. Glad it got publicity

The number of attempted bombings, those that are not reported in western media are very significant. Prevention is far better than explosions killing dozens. The efforts of the IDF have paid off and have prevented numerous attacks. Alert citizens in Israel have discovered numerous bombs as well. The number of attempted suicide attacks, and those that failed to kill anyone other than the bomber are about as high as the successful attacks.

[BowlingForPalestine]

25. I read the article...

It didn't mention anything about the "P.A." being involved. Did I miss somthing or was INN being sneaky again?!?!?!


LOL...

The lengths some will go to "spread" the message.


.........too funny..........

[MrPrax]

30. Your right...

I should have explicitly mentioned that 'an unidentified person, not a explicitly linked to a PA group or elements of organized crime , gave the bomb to the kid'...

But there are gazillions of 'preventions' apparantly, thus PROVING the righteousness of the Israeli counter-methods of running over peace activists with bulldozers...

I do notice that 'near' stories like this get wide play, but the various security operations ('IDF raids refugee camp, 4 dead' type stories) get barely a mention...

[Resistance]

31. we really have to remember

that this is Israel National News, which is so racist that they don't even hide it. Just take a look through their "opinion" section and you'll see (that is, if you can stomach it for long)

[Gimel]

32. Opinions may be biased

however, that does not mean racist, and in opinion pieces there can be a wide range of disagreement.

[Resistance]

33. That is true, however

I am talking specifically about Israel National News which really is totally racist. As I said, just read through it and see for yourself.

I will hope you haven't seen the racism yet, and aren't actually defending it.

[Gimel]

39. If others view it as racist

I'm sure it would have been banned from DU already.

[BowlingForPalestine]

34. Can you agree that the title of the post is misleading?

C'mon....gimme something to work with here!

[Gimel]

36. Slightly judgmental

Not misleading. I think you might quibble about the terrorists being "PA terrorists". There have been credible accounts lately of terrorists groups linked to Arafat's Fatah organization involved in suicide bombing attacks.

The one that was foiled recently is an example:
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/406238.html

I see worse titles on the EI articles that make huge assumptions such as:
"One Year Since the Killing of Rachel Corrie"
or this one: "Rachel Corrie was killed by Israel's illegal wall"


Do I think the PA terrorists have sunk to a new low? Not necessarily. They have been pretty damn low all along. They have done worse things in my estimation. Putting a Palestinian child in mortal danger is not so unusual for them, especially if they have a chance of putting the blame on the IDF.