Rethinking A 'Palestinian' State

[Violet_Crumble]

Just felt like posting the words of an ignorant hatemonger published in Arutz Sheva. I don't agree with this crap that tries to get passed off as informed opinion, and I'm hoping no-one else here does either.

Why does everyone seem to think that the murderous and genocide-bent Arabs now occupying Israeli land (1) deserve their own country? Are the world leaders -- and especially our own -- suffering from collective Alzheimer's and can't remember even recent history? Or are they just ignorant of the facts and believe anything the Arabs say?

Let's go back to the early 1960s, before Israel was besieged, yet again, by the surrounding Arab countries and fought for her very existence. At that time, Egypt ruled Gaza and Jordan controlled Judea and Samaria (the West Bank). If there was such a thing as 'Palestinians' (aside from the Jews, who had always been known as Palestinians for the preceding 2,000 years), how come none of them were screaming for their own country then? How come none of them demanded that Egypt and Jordan cut out pieces of themselves and give it to these other Arabs on a platinum platter? How come they were not bellowing about 'occupation' and 'humiliation'?

Want an answer? I'll let one of the so-called 'Palestinian' Arab leaders tell you in his own words:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."(2)

Even the 'Palestinian' Arabs' own leaders admit they are a fraud. And instead of being outraged at all the taxpayer money the world has poured into them to sustain this fraud, as well as to aid and abet terror and genocide, the world seeks to demonize their victims, the Jews living in their aboriginal homeland of Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=3647

[aquart]

1. Your support of a "Palestinian" identity is based on what, please?

Their language? Arabic, which originated in Arabia?

Their religion? Islam, which originated in Arabia?

Their unique customs? Food? Mythology? National song? Dress?

You claim the above statement is ignorant. Excellent. Your refutation follows?

We ignorant wish to learn.

[lapfog_1]

2. Your support of an "American" identity is based on what, please?

Language? English, which originated in England.

Religion? Christianity, which originated in Palestine.

Unique customs? Food? Mythology? Nation song? Dress?
(OK, Jazz has been called the only unique American form of music,
but it is directly traced to African rhythms and spiritual music
of converted slaves forcibly brought to America... Food? Please,
almost every food staple in the US is from other place... corn
may be the only common used native food product... National song?
Even our national anthem is the same music as a British anthem.
Dress? Maybe Cowboy dress or blue jeans... but it's a reach to
call this traditional native dress.

Native Americans meet all of your criteria for "statehood"...
and they are the original occupants of this land you call America.
So, why don't we allow them to create a nation (and not just a
reservation) and get the hell off their land?

(Oh yeah, I'm about 1/3 Native American, and can qualify to belong
to the Cherokee nation... so this won't bother me in the least).

[Classical_Liberal]

3. I am opposed to tranfer because it is wrong to forcibly

remove people from their homes, not because i believe the Palstinians are culturally unique. I also think that such ideas are inflammatory, racist and will result in the rage and terrorism we are seeing. I'd be pissed off if some arrogant fuck said that about me and my home. nuff said.

[Violet_Crumble]

4. I didn't realise I had to refute such racist swill...

..as what was in this article. Not here in a progressive forum....

Palestinian nationalism started to emerge in the early 20th century. I think they beat indigenous Australians by a fair while on that one, btw. I hope yr not going to try to dispute that Arabs hadn't been living in Palestine for a hell of a long time....

As an Australian of British/Irish/Jewish descent, I can assure you there's nothing unique about the language I speak, the food I eat, or the customs I follow. In fact, there's nothing to differentiate us from New Zealanders, Americans, British and Canadian Anglo-Saxons. And gosh, we don't even have a national dress! ;)

So, did you learn anything?

Violet...