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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:18 PM
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Lieberman presents to Russia plan to expel 'disloyal' Arabs
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=433141&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

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"Transportation Minister Avigdor Lieberman has presented Russian officials with his plan to separate Jews from Arabs, which involves exiling Israeli Arabs deemed disloyal to the state.

Lieberman described the Plan for the Separation of Nations as an alternative to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's disengagement plan, which calls for Israel to evacuate from the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank."

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"Lieberman, chairman of the rightist National Union party and an immigrant from the former Soviet Union, met with Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal representative in the Quartet for Mideast peace, Alexander Galkin, and Russian ambassador to Israel Gennady Tarasov in Israel at Russia's request.

The plan is based on the idea of separating the populations and territories of Jews and Arabs, including Israeli Arabs. According to the plan, only those Israeli Arabs who feel a connection with the State of Israel and are completely loyal to it will be allowed to stay."

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:22 PM
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1. This Is A Damned Bad Suggestion, Sir
Such a proposal as this cannot but be carried out in an arbitray and unjust manner. The revocation of citizenship, and the expulsion of citizens on an ethnic basis, is a high crime indeed.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:17 AM
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7. It is frighteningly similar
to a proposal floated by certain memebers of the Serbian Radical Party during the mid 90s regarding the 'Kosovo problem', and somewhat similar to arguments used to justify the expulsion of Serbs from Karjina by the Croatian government. With racism the message never changes, just the messanger.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:29 PM
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2. seems rather circular...
Isn't his party one which espouses transfer of Palestinians from the WB?
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orthogonal Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:44 PM
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3. Get the boxcars ready?
Normally I'm reticent to accuse Jews or Israel of Nazi-like behavior -- in fact, I think this may be a first for me.

But this really smacks of "Resettlement im Osten".
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:03 PM
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6. Not Really, Sir
That term was simply a bureacratic euphemism for the first stage of collection in catchments for shipment to extermination facilities.

It does, however, smack uncomfortably of the various expulsions of native Jewry from European countries that have so disfigured the history of that place in the last millenium.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:58 PM
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4. Ethnic cleansing....pure and simple....
but to be expected.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:01 PM
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5. When one starts making Sharon look reasonable, one is beyond the pale
Edited on Mon May-31-04 01:03 PM by Jack Rabbit

Sharon condemned Sunday statements Lieberman made on transferring Israelis Arabs to the territories.
"We regard (the Israeli Arabs) as part of the State of Israel," Sharon said.
Several ministers considered Sharon's statement as preparing the ground for the dismissal of Lieberman and Benny Elon, a fellow National Union minister, after the prime minister warned the cabinet Sunday that he was willing to change the makeup of the coalition so as to pass the revised disengagement plan.

If Sharon is going to dismiss Lieberman and Elon for open racism, why not include Netanyahu in that motely crew as well. Netanyahu has made an obscene remark last December about Israeli Arabs being a "demographic threat."
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 01:10 PM
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8. Since BN doesn't consider the Israeli Arabs
part of Israel, he has reason to be afraid. I read two years ago that many Israeli citizens of Arab descent are reaching childbearing age, and they have larger families than the Jews. They will become a larger and larger percentage of Israel's population, until one day...

To create a dynamic economy to attract Jews from other countries to move to Israel, to ensure a Jewish majority, first they have to solve the conflict with the Palestinians.
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