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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:13 PM
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Documentary: 911 In Plane Site - conspiracy theory or reality ??
Has anyone seen the documentary 911 In Plane Site? I heard the film maker on the radio and some what he said seemed like a real crazy conspiracy theory, but there are things he points out that really made me wonder if it could be true. I have NO trust in this administration, but they couldn't have gone THIS FAR, could they have? Reading it really makes me feel like I'm living in the matrix. The website has photo's and the whole story. I've posted a few interesting points but the website has a lot more. Has anyone seen this film?

http://www.911inplanesite.com/
http://www.911inplanesite.com/911synopsis.html
http://www.911inplanesite.com/911trailer.html

Regarding the World Trade Towers

"Let’s begin by examining the original source footage from CNN. Everyone has seen this same footage over and over again. The Boeing 767 enters from the left side of the frame and plows full speed into the corner of the South tower. Still frames from this shot appear on dozens of national magazine covers from all over the country and it is also the trademark video that used by most filmmakers for their documentaries on 9/11. What most people have failed to recognize, until recently, is that on the underside of the plane, just to the right of the fuselage, there appears to be a peculiar three-dimensional anomaly. By comparison, this “protrusion” looks as if it is slightly smaller than one of the engines mounted to the plane. Keep in mind that the engines on a 767 are approximately 9 feet in diameter and 12 feet in length."


"Let’s stop for a moment and ask the question, “Did this plane take off from a commercial airport?” We already have one Fox News employee making the statement that the plane had no passenger windows. What commercial airliner has no passenger windows? The answer, I’m sure we all can agree, is none. We have a Fox News anchor asking the question, “Is it possible that was some sort of cargo plane?”

After a few weeks of searching, we were able to obtain photographs of a military Boeing 767. This plane is being marketed to the U.S. Air Force by Boeing to replace their KC-130 series. The most perplexing aspect of this military craft is that it has no passenger windows and is in fact a refueling tanker aircraft. Is it possible that the plane we all saw crashing into the South tower was a Boeing 767 refueling tanker aircraft? Wouldn’t such a plane take off from a military base?


What is mounted to the underbelly of Flight 175? What purpose did it serve in the attacks? How could this plane have departed from a commercial airport without such a large attachment being noticed by maintenance and refueling personnel? Wouldn’t the baggage handlers have noticed it? Surely we can all agree that they would have noticed it - that is, if it had taken off from a commercial airport.

“We heard a loud explosion.” “We have a report now of a second explosion.” “We have a report now of a fourth explosion.” “The top of the building just blew up.” “We heard a very loud blast – an explosion. Not clear now is why that explosion took place.”


Regarding the Pentagon

“How can a Boeing 757 which is over 44 feet in height and 124 feet in width simply disappear without a trace into a hole that is only 16 ft. in diameter? Also, why is there no external damage to the Pentagon where the wings and the tail section would have impacted with the outer wall?

America remembers the photographs that they were shown of tiny, indiscernible fragments, which were described as pieces of a Boeing 757. Were these fragments of a Boeing 757? Internal photographs of the Pentagon taken by Jocelyn Augustino, a FEMA photographer, do not show engine parts matching the description of a 757’s engine turbofan

Another interesting point worth mentioning is that in the aftermath following the Pentagon attack, it was reported by media sources that a giant 100 feet crater had been plowed into the front lawn of the Pentagon as the result of a powerful airliner crash. Photographic evidence overwhelmingly shows that this was absolutely not the case. No crater – no skid marks – no burn marks… (No plane?) Why was the American public and the entire world deliberately misled about this easily disproved fact?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:20 PM
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1. I've Looked at That Anomaly as Carefully as I Can
through layman's eyes. My personal belief is that it was photoshopped. The alleged missile that fires at point-blank range is what I find especially hard to believe. However, the only way to make sure would be to get original footage to compare it against.

If it is NOT photoshopped, there's something very strange going on.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:20 PM
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2. Red herring.
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 04:22 PM by DenverDem
This is a false flag black op intended to discredit the 911 Truth movement.

There are plenty of damning facts without this fantasical disinformation. Work on them, not this.

Drop it like it's hot.
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MousePlayingDaffodil Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:32 PM
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3. Shit like this . . .
. . . makes DU seems as nutty as any outlandish right-wing conspiracy site. My next-door neighbor, who was sitting in traffic on I-395 that morning, SAW the goddamned plane fly into the Pentagon. A colleague of mine at work, who was running late that day, also saw it as it was coming in. A part-time secretary at my firm, who also works as a "free-lance" massage therapist, was parked in a Pentagon parking lot that morning and was inside the building attending to one her patients. When the returned to her car later that morning, she had a fucking bolt from the airplane half-embedded in the sun-roof of her SUV. She contacted the FBI about it, to see if they wanted it.

Please people, DROP this insanity that a plane didn't actually strike the Pentagon. People who continue to embrace this "theory" are fools, pure and simple.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:44 PM
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4. No doubt a plane hit the pentagon.
The question that needs to be asked, "Who was controling it?"
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:36 PM
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6. I don't think the documentary disputes that something hit the pentagon
I think they say it was a missle (I haven't seen the documentary but that's what the website implies. It also says (and shows) a picture of cameras on pentagon roof and asks why have we never seen the footage from those cameras of the plane crashing into it. It does sound like a seriously cRazY conspiracy theory - I'll give you that.
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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:02 PM
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5. 9/11 In Plane Site
I ordered the directors cut 4 days ago and can't wait to watch it..

Here's some other very good videos to order if you're interested...









Liberty Bound takes an entertaining look at America’s ongoing struggle to keep a comfortable balance between democracy, capitalism, and fascism.

Through original footage, archived footage, and interviews with people such as Howard Zinn, Michael Parenti, and Michael Ruppert, Liberty Bound explores the state of the union and its ostensible move toward fascism.

Liberty Bound also explores the unanswered questions surrounding the attacks of 9/11, and takes a closer look at the timeline of that terrible day.

Liberty Bound leaves us with the question: “Is the United States bound for liberty – or does it just have liberty bound?











Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land provides a striking comparison of U.S. and international media coverage of the crisis in the Middle East, zeroing in on how structural distortions in U.S. coverage have reinforced false perceptions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

This pivotal documentary exposes how the foreign policy interests of American political elites--oil, and a need to have a secure military base in the region, among others--work in combination with Israeli public relations strategies to exercise a powerful influence over how news from the region is reported.










Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire examines how a radical fringe of the Republican Party used the trauma of the 9/11 terror attacks to advance a pre-existing agenda to radically transform American foreign policy while rolling back civil liberties and social programs at home.

"Gripping ... Sober yet ultimately uplifting." -San Francisco Chronicle










The Oil Factor: Behind the War on Terror In 2004, three years into President Bush's "war-on-terror", is the world a safer place than it was in the Summer of 2001? The war in Afghanistan has turned into a bloody quagmire, the real Iraq war has now begun and Islamist fundamentalist groups are hiring thousands of volunteers poised to carry out the Jihad against Western interests around the world.

When all of Bush's pro-war arguments have been proven wrong, is it a coincidence that Iraq sits on the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world? Is it also a coincidence that Afghanistan is key to controlling the oil reserves of Central Asia at a time when the world's oil is dwindling? "The Oil Factor: Behind the War on Terror" examines the link between oil interests and current U.S. military interventions.

It includes original footage shot over a four-month period in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan as well as many interviews with a large array of personalities including Bush administration officials.

The documentary explores the various underlying motives behind George Bush's so-called "war-on-terror" and offers insights as to why global terrorism is thriving and why the world is becoming a more and more unsafe place. "The Oil Factor" also makes a clear assessment of today's global oil situation with sky-rocketing consumption and declining production.










This has been called "A thorough, documented, criminal indictment of George Herbert Walker Bush, establishing beyond a reasonable doubt his guilt as a supervisor in the conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy.

If we could present this evidence to a jury in Texas, he would pay with his life." Did you know that Daddy Prescott Bush was Hitler's chief banker in the U.S. before 1942? Did you know that George H.W. Bush was in the CIA and in Dallas when Kennedy was killed?

This video explores the many connections between George Bush and the Kennedy Assassination and makes a very convincing argument that he was the operational leader of the most important coup in American history. Length 93 minutes.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:38 PM
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8. I just watch it
Dave corrected the couple of mistakes that were in it. It's much better now.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:36 PM
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7. Welcome
to the world of reality. As you can see here.....not to many people allow themselves to take the physical impossibilities surrounding 911 seriously.

If you really want to have some fun. Input the names of the crews and passengers of the flights into the Social Security Death Index......then try matching the names in the 911 Victim's Compensation Fund.

http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

http://911digitalarchive.org/objects/3.pdf


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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:42 AM
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9. read this thread PLEASE
Despite the complaints of the tinfoiul crowd this film has been discussed, and debunked, many, many times here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=31776&mesg_id=31776

Basically, inplanesite is a pack of lies.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:56 PM
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10. Some of the film is wrong, and you shouldn't go by physical evidence
because it can be very misleading if not fraudulent.

Many 9/11 skeptics feel the film is disinfo.
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