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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:11 AM
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Sgrena / Pentagon retrofit
This is not directly connected to 911. But it tells something about the capabilities of U.S. surveillance.

The Pentagon retrofit matter is found in post #1.

About Sgrena :

"The top U.S. general in Iraq, Army gen. George Casey, has stated that the US had no indication that Italian officials gave advance notice of the route of the vehicle in which Giuliana Sgrena and slain officer Nicola Calipari were riding. As a former Air Force intelligence officer, I would argue that this statement is absolutely ludicrous. Based upon intelligence collection capabilities of even 3 decades ago, it is reasonable to assume that the US intercepted all phone communication between Italian agents in Iraq and Rome, monitored such traffic in real time and knew precisely where Sgrena's vehicle was at all times, without advanced notice being provided by Italian officials.

During the early 1970s, it was my job to monitor intelligence collected on the Korean peninsula. It was my responsibility to report serious anomalies to the White House by means of a secure phone.

At that time, satellite photographic collection capability was in its infancy; however, the joke, often told at briefings, was that while "we can identify a golf ball anywhere on planet earth, we cannot tell you the brand." In addition to satellite photography, I would assume, as in Korea, that there would be numerous other sources of photography from "manned" and "unmanned" aircraft that are regularly positioned over key areas, such as the airport in Baghdad, which are capable of providing real time imagery of vehicle traffic."
http://rense.com/general63/denps.htm
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:12 AM
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1. Pentagon retrofit
What to think about this? : http://globalresearch.ca.myforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=834


"Interestingly, a section of the wall (less than 70 foot wide) where the aircraft hit the Pentagon had been retrofitted, but both sections either side, had not.

To see that this is the case, examine the following photos of a section of the Pentagon wall immediately to the left of the impact zone. The limestone facade has been knocked off by the aircrafts impact, making it clear that this section of wall lacks the red steel reinforcement of the retrofit. "






"Here the red steel reinforcement of the retrofit is plainly visible and the windows have not broken but have remained whole."
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:47 AM
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2. I am starting a new thread that relates to this idea.
I think the Pentagon may have been renovated with explosives built into the walls.
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 12:27 PM
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3. You'd need xray vision to see that there is no steel in the top photo
You know, since it was installed behind the brick - which is still in place.
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 03:42 PM
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4. Good
to get a comment from a different angle. (Post #3)

Here is a video that I can´t watch, but maybe someone who can can tell if there is anything very interesting in it :
http://www.hugequestions.com/
( I´m curious about the video snip at the bottom right. )
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 05:36 PM
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5. Which video? There are several there. The one on the lower right is
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 05:38 PM by spooked911
"Desperate Wives". Is that what you wanted?
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:35 AM
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6. Yup, that´s the one
"And Desperate Wives, a bombshell interview with Kay Griggs: wife of a senior US marine who has some chilling revelations about how control is maintained in the US."
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:20 PM
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7. Dust to dust, ashes to ashes
and someone is going to stomp on that Oogie Boogie.

The reason the neo-cons were able to take overtake the US,
is because the Us was too weak to defend itself
and
since it is too weak to defend itself,
it is simply not powerful enough to fulfil the dreams of the neocons.

The universe enjoys a paradox.

The neocons now have what they asked for
and therefore they will never ever get
that which they want.
And they have lost control.
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