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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:40 PM
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In 1988, Port Authority already sought to eliminate the WTC Towers
But their study showed that doing it legally would cost to much.

Check out this thread at Rense, and go down to the testimony of Tom Gordon. I'm in an email research group with him, and can vouch for his authenticity. Actually, I've seen other sources with the same key info about the economic reasons for getting rid of the Towers...and the difficulties with doing it openly and legally.

http://www.rense.com/general47/pulled.htm

But it seems that not until 2001 was Larry Silverstein able to strike a deal with the Bush Administration, and one the Port Authority, and get insurance contracts so he could make billions off of the destruction of the Towers.

Some Port Authority bigwigs also seem to have come out ahead on this...I'm thinking especially of Karl Roves friend Paul Gargano.

What a sickening bunch of people.

:puke:
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Christophera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:18 PM
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1. People Can Be Used: Way More To Story
Dancing_Dave,

I certainly know how you feel.

I cannot assert strongly enough how important it is to reserve judgement until a full understanding is gained. Let me explain.

This issue of gaining accountabilty from government depends on our unity and the secrete government depends on our division to keep its secretes. If we allow our attitudes to create attitudes of opposition in government, they will naturally work with the power we gave them to hide better. Making what we need to do more difficult.

Understanding is key.

The difficulty we are having in getting the American people to examine information of 9-11 for it's meaning, is a mental problem. Attitudes actually control perception to a larger degree than we are allowed to realize. Fear makes this work better. Meaning if the secrete government works to make us afraid, we must not be afraid and also work to dispell the fear of others, generally, if we hope to lessen the attitudes.

The secrecy, like the fears, will be removed in layers. The 9-11 onion.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:04 AM
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2. Key early witness to WTC demolition motives is no anti-semite!
More from Tom Gordon, the witness mentioned above:

"As I was writing back to Stefan, it had dawned on me that I have always been
employed, and, or supervised by Jewish folks. Their faces were appearing
very clearly just then, each memory evolving into a chapter of it's own.

These are some wonderful faces to recall, especially if you like Karsh-style
portraiture. I'm trying to discern who among these faces who were the
heaviest potential perps? Were any of them most likely truly "evil" in every
regard? ...Would they kill for money?

If so, what kind of money? Bags full of cash, loot straight from Miami?

Actually, I have mostly loved each and every one of these people. And,
despite extended periods of financial hardship and considerable 'tough-love'
-relationships, i can say unequovicaly that we have enjoyed each other's
company because we instantly felt common values. Some may be very dubious of
me because I literally shed the responsibility associated with handling real
money.

I will say, for the record, it is amazing to me that throughout the world
over 50% of the top architects are of Jewish descent. In NYC it's probably
closer to 80%. Perhaps I should not find these numbers unusual. My 'cliche'
measure of their cultural lineage is that of the merchant-family order. This
concept is a very noble one for me. In defense of that position alone, I
would seek to discredit both the British and the American views, as recorded
in their so-called national "History." They paint a lowly, Balkanized state
of Jewish affairs, never mentioning their own exploits in the process.

BTW, my life was saved by 3qts. of blood from an Orthodox Jewish merchant.

I am neither a fan of Jeff, nor Zundel, nor any of those evangellical
templates in that regard. What irks me is any clandestine consolidation of
power which seeks to exclude, or rule through usary and other predatory
means. Please let's not side-line the issue of justice, or was it "Justice"?

Tom




> From: Dave
> Subject: Re: Comment: 1976 Plan
>
> Jean T Gordon wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Stefan.
>>
>> Yes, the point of my original statement posted at Rense was precisely
>> that, to draw attention to the highest motivation of all; desperation
>> among the owners and lenders which had clearly led to an actual
>> "Insurance fraud," at its core. Of course now, many other key perps
>> must be rooted out, but most of the witnesses have been literally
>> 'gagged' in the 9/11 ruse, be it from blackmail, threat of death,
>> so-called military 'protocol,' party-mindsets, etc. The first response
>> which I had expected was that they would 'gag' me, and rather quickly.
>>
>> Coincidentally, I had also just done a job at the actual HQ for the
>> perps, about 1 year prior. Supposedly, I was selected because I was
>> the only local top-name who never been charged with any offense, but
>> for whatever reason they definately sought me out for these jobs.
>>
>> I had been shadowed throughout NYC as well. I'm pretty sure that an
>> agent hired me to shoot a Vanderbilt property upstate, where I won the
>> bid undeservingly. Also, I was competetively agressive towards my
>> competetion, targeting only the very best shooters in the country at
>> the time. Poor literary abilities have made me a bit of a social
>> anomolie. I refered to myself as a "Woodie Guthrie" -artist figure,
>> knowing I would have made an excellent FBI recruit and corporate spy
>> because I could slip into these closed worlds in a disarming way.
>> Think Beverly Hillbillies, and you pretty much get the general picture
>> of me shaking hands in Sandy Wexner's(Victoria's Secret) Aspen living
>> room.
>>
>> I have now provided more personal background than some members would
>> care to read, but my intent has been to establish some form of
>> personal credibility with each member of the group. This is especially
>> important since I am still banking on an "unvetted" -story, according
>> to Ruppert, who was the first to show an inquisitive attitude and
>> subsequently distance himself from my claims.
>>
>> Not one architect has spoken since Minoru was on TV. Not one
>> researcher has turned-up early NY Bldg. Code Dept. documentation,
>> although stories about the building are public folklore in the
>> (jewish) NYC architectural community. Again, I could not know of these
>> things, or presume to rehash this event in a believable way, had I not
>> been there in person to feel the impending coup first-hand. After
>> Webster's brilliant narrative, I was too overwhelmed to speak to the
>> entire group at Confronting the Evidence. I really have nothing
>> specific to "teach" the general public. I had come to the meeting to
>> ask for local assistance in a mysterious, and potentially dangerous
>> people-hunt. Nico's formidible, and proven success record in
>> investigative journalism has helped me to sort of share the guilt if
>> you will.
>>
>> Today's headlines read: "GOP Cashes-in On Election Capital".
>>
>> The only remaining question I have is whether to stay and fight, or
>> just cut-and-run?
>>
>> Tom Gordon
>
> Actually, Tom, or Jean(?), I'm trying to keep my eye on the ball,
> but you appeared to provide more personal background than I would
> care to read when you failed to capitalize the J in "Jewish".
>
> Please keep that on rense.com, where I won't see it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
>
> - Dave"

BTW, this is a totally DIFFERENT Dave from me. He has a different attitude, I would never say something like that in response to Tom's sincere and valuable testimony. "Jean" is the name in Tom's internet address, making it a little more difficult to track him down, for understandable reasons...though I guess the Bush Administration could track any of us down if it really became a top priority for them.
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