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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 07:39 PM Original message |
Tall buildings do not topple like trees. |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. That picture looks fake. |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Says who? |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I'm sure there's a grain of sense in there somewhere |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. No, just a lot of hard science. |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I think the term you're looking for is pseudoscience. |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 10:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. MIHOPpers. |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 10:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Wake me up when you find some facts. |
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clovis29 (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
63. Thankyouthankyouthankyou |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. "Post hoc ergo proptor hoc." |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:38 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. There is, fortunately, more that links... |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. But not much, really. |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
26. thanks |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-05 08:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. The photo does look fake |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why didn't WTC7 topple towards the SW, the part that shows damage in... |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Watch the WTC 1 collapse |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Read this . |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Also check pp. 14 and 19... |
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pauldp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
9. You mean like this? |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. No, these are good examples. |
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pauldp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. this one is at least 16 stories |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 01:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Yes, and notice one thing about this pic. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Both of you make good points, but ... |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. There was widespread damage to WTC 7 |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The real reason |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Not a valid comparison. |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Comparison, etc. |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Wow. Lots of info here. |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 02:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. National Geographic, etc. |
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killtown (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Um, what if the demo team |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. The middle did not collapse first.. |
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killtown (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. East? I thought it was the SW? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Did you read the NIST report? |
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killtown (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Monitored the bulges in their pants??? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Indeed. Anyone wanna tackle that? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. How else do you initiate the collapse in a safe and timely manner? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. So, you could randomly start fires and expect the building to collapse |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. It will it topple over.. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Oh for pete's sake. Let's try a different example. |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. erm |
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Tim Howells (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Brilliant!! Thank you. |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
14. Reinforced concrete pillars? |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
16. Doesn't look like it's damaged enough to pull the steel core down. |
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Henny Penny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
29. Hillarious! |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
30. Sure that's why controlled demolition requires so much effort. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
34. The surprising thing about the way the towers fell... |
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piobair (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. free fall |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. CD |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
37. This is nonsense. Tall buildings can topple over like a tree with the |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. No, you are wrong |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. how high can you build a tower with just brick and/or concrete? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Again you are wrong... |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Since when are you an engineer???? Puh-lease. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Give me a break! |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #57 |
66. The top of wtc2 should have fallen just to the side of the building, |
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kerry_s (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
39. They weren't 'just' buildings |
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kerry_s (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. a missing picture |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. welcome to DU! |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I think a building as large as the TTs can only fall at a 90 degree angle |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. where does this understanding come from? |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. "where does this understanding come from?" |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 03:49 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. sorry |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Sorry, but... |
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theSaiGirl (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. 9/11 "physics" confirms the dumbing-down of America |
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Caesarmajestic (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-05 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
58. Dude, they are showing you PICTURES of your incorrectness |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. And for his next trick, he can show us all how an Airbus 380 |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-05 11:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Dude - google "Storey Drift" n/t |
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Grateful for Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Well said. n/t |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-05 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
62. WTC 7 was 355 feet away from WTC 1, farther from 2 |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
70. Wow, longship is a physicist and architect! I didn't know that? |
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