Need opinion. Here are 2 photos of tower 2 impact site and subsequent

[rumpel]

start of collapse.
From previous pictures, I had the impression both "planes" pretty much did not directly hit any corners of the buildings. Probably a structurally important spot. I saw this close up video
and thought, wait a minute, it starts crumbling in the corner, but what damage occured and when, and started looking for photos.
Here is the close up
http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem5/

Here is WTC 2
http://home.debitel.net/user/andreas.bunkahle/defaulte.htm

Notice on the left corner of the building, way beyond the wingspan, is visible damage.
Damage that looks like it was from a force from the inside out.

I saw this "bulge" on other material, but none of them were this close, so I could not figure out what it was.

Comments please.

on edit
Sorry the still photo is the other building here is the correct photo
http://home.debitel.net/user/andreas.bunkahle/defaulte.htm

[rman]

1. 2nd pane hit sortof on the corner

or right next to it, if you will.
http://911index.0catch.com/cheney-2nd-hit.html

One odd thing about the collapse of the 2nd tower is that the top starts to tilt and then pulverizes in mid air, instead of keeling over all together.

[rumpel]

2. The actual corner does not seem to have damage, but it is hard to tell

because the the whole sunlit side of the building is washed out.

Is it possible that I am confusing the corners, the point of view on these pictures?

It seems that way on the other side, there may have been extensive damage. Is it possible for a plane to travel to far end of the building in tact to cause damage to the other side of the building?

http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem5/911.wtc.2.demolition.north.very.close.mpg
and

http://home.debitel.net/user/andreas.bunkahle/defaulte.htm (I notice the link does not take me directly to the page, it is under the title "WTC2 Origin of flames")

[Kevin Fenton]

3. Doesn't have to be intact

"Is it possible for a plane to travel to far end of the building intact to cause damage to the other side of the building?"
It couldn't travel intact, as the planes must have suffered serious damage when they impacted the perimeter wall. However, provided it didn't hit a core column, a heavy assembly, such as an engine or landing gear, could travel to the other side of the building - there would only be partition walls and furniture in its way.

[rumpel]

5. I wonder what the size of the heavy parts would be in relation to the

damage on the building.
However, I distinctly remember watching the impact that morning on TV, CNN, that it looked almost like the nose of the plane exited from the other side of the building, and then it quickly disappeared in the flames.
But the angle of that moment looked as if it was the side of the building not the corner.
I will check on the projected path of the plane after impact.
The German site seem to think it was a separate explosion.

[philb]

8. Steel beams are stronger than airplane fuselage or wing,etc. but

engine and landing gear apparently went through WTC2 and out the other(East) side.

Fuselage and wings should have been shredded by the steel beams.

what caused the steel beams to be sectioned and expelled outward when the tower collapsed?

[rman]

4. video's show a lot of stuff did come out the other end

the subsequent fuel ingition came out the front, side and the far end. google should turn up some video footage, and it's been all over TV.

I'd say the upper part of that building had plenty of reason to tilt that way -if- the weakened structure would fail, which it did, as stills and videos show.

To me, evidence of controled demo here is not so much the fact that the building failed in the first place - it's the fact that it failed completely and that the tilting upper part sort of dissolved into thin air as it fell.

[rumpel]

6. Yes, and it looks like there was another explosion on the opposite side of

the tilt.

[philb]

9. I think you are confusing the corner. Compare the closeup to the

smaller expanded view

[philb]

7. which of the German photos are you talking about?

WTC2 top pulverized from below?
WTC2 new explosions?
WTC2 collapses?

what caused the explosive clouds/dust streams exploding upward above the towers and the collapsing sections?

in the 2nd photo & other such that have been posted before?

[rumpel]

10. On the very first post I compared the video and "WTC 2 the 3 holes with

Boeing Silhouette" with the demolition footage.

I now can tell I am looking at a different corner. Comparing the video
with the picture the German site's "WTC 2 origins of smoke, flames" picture, this should complete three sides of the building.

1) Which is the impact hole South side "WTC 2 the 3 holes with Boeing silhouette"
2) Is the side in direct sun light East side "WTC 2 origins of smoke, flames"
3) Video is the North side http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem5/911.wtc.2.demolition.north.very.close.mpg

In picture 2 East there is quite a bit of damage to the corner, but damage does not extend to the North.

While in the videos you can see how the East side first appears to be sucked into the building, and from a different angle, North, it looks like 2 entire floors, about 10 floors apart, collapse simultaneously.
http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem5/911.wtc.2.demolition.north.very.close.mpg
Would an interior floor collapse create such a horizontal dust trail?

Also you can see a flash of light (which does not appear to be fire) further up, after the corner gives way.
http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem5/911.wtc.2.demolition.east.close.mpg

The only damage on the entire vertical line of the corner is that 1 Floor section until then. Interestingly, looking at the flash location in the video and then looking at the extreme slow video there is another visible section of corner damage just about the location of the flash.
911.wtc.2.demolition.north.very.close.mpg

The corner damage No 1 to me looks similar in size and appearance to the corner damage No 2. It would be nice to find a still photo of both for comparison reasons.

Am I seeing too much?