"Yes, we orchestrated 9/11, but we did it to protect America from terror'

[mopaul]

bush just stands up there and says he'll do any goddamn thing he pleases, including shitting on the constitution, ignores all the laws, and lies his fucking ass off every day, and there are still people who STILL doubt our own government did nine eleven.

even now?

[LoKnLoD]

1. I believe MIHOP

have for a long while now, too many things don't add up.

[mopaul]

3. 'yes, we did 9/11, but we had to, to pertek the amerkn people'

i can just hear him saying it any day now

[applegrove]

2. No. No evidence. You cannot just make stuff up. There is lots of

evidence Osama did it.

[mopaul]

5. sure i can make stuff up, i do it all the fucking time

[unblock]

7. yeah, and he's pretty good at it, too!

:hi:

[astonamous]

9. Until we get the truth, alls fair in conspiracy theories and

criminals living in the White House.

[Angry Girl]

11. but you don't have a whoring press to support you

If you have enough money, however, I'm sure we can have something arranged with Pox News or the New York Times.

[applegrove]

23. You can dream that Bush will say that.

[applegrove]

24. You can dream. The pattern is that Bush WH had to work long

and hard to come up with a way to link Hussein to 9/11. They had to render at least one terrorist and torture him into saying what they wanted. Niger forgeries. Whig. Using curveball. Quoting British sources. Using debuncked German intel. All alot of work.

[unblock]

6. of which nothing has been shared with the public

not that i don't believe it, but i am suspicious of why there hasn't been proof. just a long parade of people saying, yup. that's the guy. based on what, who knows?

[m0nkeyneck]

12. evidence osama did it?

please tell...

[applegrove]

16. He took responsibility. They found the history of all the high-jackers.

There was a trail of knowledge out there that planes, buildings, WTC, bombs, suicides were becoming a passtime of bin Laden.

Bush & his cronies just ignored bin Laden. That is the issue. Clinton handed intel on bin Laden over to them and they dropped the ball.

That is the story. That PNAC & the WH were focussed on getting a way into Iraq. And they ignored the real threat - that bin Laden had been attacking USA assets for years.

Why they tried to shut down 9/11 commission.

Because they didn't protect the US from attack. They didn't listen to terrorism experts.

They had tunnel vision.

They were incompetent. Interested in their own agenda.

[KAZ]

27. And what did they use to get into Iraq?

And why might they have "dropped the ball"?

And why might they want the commission shut down?

I certainly don't know, but your all of your points could have an alternative answer.

[Sir Jeffrey]

28. FYI

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm

"Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well.

The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.

Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.

His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world. "

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

"DOHA, Qatar (CNN) -- Islamic militant leader Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role Sunday in the actions believed to have killed thousands.

In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.

"I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations," bin Laden said. "

The subsequent admission? Go here and click on the "Osama" link on the right:

http://911physics.co.nr/

Also, the FBI still hasn't listed Bin Laden as responsible for 9/11:

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

Don't believe the lies

[stillcool]

32. great links....thanks...

[Sir Jeffrey]

33. I'm just trying to get sent to Gitmo

[stillcool]

34. Not so nice, this time of year....

it's more of a 'summer camp'....oops...scuse me...:puke:

[m0nkeyneck]

31. That is a very small piece of a larger theory...

..which may or may not be true. Obviously, placing blame on a specific person/group would require actual physical evidence which does not exist. ‘a trail of knowledge’ about a known CIA tool hardly puts the issue to rest. The attacks were pulled off w/ military precision requiring coincidences that in a normal event would be dismissed as statistically impossible. The official story completely ignores those pesky laws of thermodynamics and few thousand other anomalies; planes vanished, titanium jet engines incinerated, entire building collapsed due to fire for the first time in history (3 times), etc. If these things don’t convince you to ask questions then you must have knowledge that most don’t… please share

[pauldp]

35. Oh "He took responsibility" No THIS GUY took responsibility

the guy on the right (E) with the short nose.

[stickdog]

37. He didn't take responsibility. They didn't find the history of all the

highjackers.

No decent proof or even compelling evidence has been presented in any trial or public arena concerning who planned & executed the 9/11 conspiracy.

[we can do it]

44. Oh I See - The Fat Osama Tape? Oh Yeah and The Dumbass-In-Chief Theory

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[kliljedahl]

14. Who trained and financed him for many years?

Just askin'



Keith’s Barbeque Central

[applegrove]

25. CIA. During the war on communism. They have done that quite often.

Created monsters.

[LibertyorDeath]

30. Oh yeah Osama Bin Cia

"There is lots of
evidence Osama did it."

were waiting applegrove

no linking to Faux CIA or any other right wing bullshit sources for your "evidence"

" lots of
evidence"

This should be good...

[we can do it]

43. And Would You Care To Share Some of That Evidence With Us - Or Are You ...

just making it up?

[Christophera]

58. The Only Evidence Of Collapse Is That Buildings Are Not There.

there is no evidence whatsoever that OBL did anything.

Personally I believe that the Taliban assisted in training terrorists, but that is it. There is evidence we trained the Taliban.


The buildings did not fall at free fall or undergo nearly complete pulverization because of OBL. No way, not possible.

Only elements abusing government powers could create the secrecy needed to effect the magnitude we saw.

[Rabrrrrrr]

4. I hope they don't. I've never believed that it was purely a terra-ttack.

They let it happen, that's all I have to say, and all I've said since 9-11.

Sometimes I say that they even helped plan it, but most times I'm not sure about that. But I am convinced that our criminal in the white house clearly, deliberately, and maliciously with all foreknowledge, let it happen.

[unblock]

8. i believe they had help from inside. the question is WHO helped

it could have been the whole white house crew.
it could have been just cheney and trusted aides on the side.
it could have been just a renegade general or two.

but someone kept the fighter jets on the ground, at a minimum.
the response disparity between payne stewart's final flight and the 9/11 flights is just too much to be dismissed.

[Angry Girl]

18. Wasn't Bush's brother on the board of directors for the security firm

for at least part of the World Trade Center complex? And maybe even one of the airlines whose plane went down - can't remember for sure.

[Jara sang]

26. same company provided security for Dulles airport and United

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm

[mirandapriestly]

38. Los Alamos laboratory from the article , they provided security

for them prior to 1998. Isn't that where the expert worked who came forward and said that 911 definitely used explosives? and then he was called to Washington and he backed down , then they gave his company a big grant. Anyway, they ARE involved with explosives research. Just interesting coincidence
http://www.lanl.gov/quarterly/q_sum03/explosives.shtml

[DemInDistress]

39. New state of the art explosives wow.

I'll go for that..Good story even though my brain couldn't digest much of the technology but it stands to reason...FIRE DID NOT DESTROY THE WTC TO THE EXTENT WE SEEN....

[we can do it]

45. Who Made The Airforce Stand Down While 4 Hijacked Planes Flew All Over...

for over an hour?

[savemefromdumbya]

62. There was a drill so everyone got confused

except Cheney's men

[we can do it]

64. Oh I See - That Drill About Hijacked Planes Hitting Buildings,That No One

could have imagined happening?

[Punkingal]

10. Cheney did it....

No doubt in my mind about that. Cheney and Rumsfeld. IMHO.

[DemInDistress]

40. I agree DICKHEAD CHENEY and his band of MERRY MURDERERS

DID IT.. Stands to reason..the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) housed on the 12th floor of WT7 was and had an active criminal investigation into the business practices of Halliburton. Its funny,after WT1 collapses no fires are seen in WT7 however after noon (12pm) raging fires are seen on the 12th floor of WT7 hmm..Was it arson? Bet my right arm and left leg it was..
Another tidbit, On or about Sept.11 1991 dumsey,cheney,poppy bush and a few others float a 240 billion dollar loan. That loan was backed by counterfeit gold bonds,"Brady Bonds". Those very fake bonds were housed in,get this the safe's of Cantor Fitzgerald located on the 90th floors of WT1...wow those bonds had a due date on Sept.11 2001 HOLY FUCKING SHIT BATMAN, connect the dots...

[we can do it]

46. Wow - Do You Have A Link On This - I'd Love To Read More

[DemInDistress]

48. I will search and find them for you ..later today.....nt

[we can do it]

52. Thanks- I Will Look For It

:wow:

[DemInDistress]

49. counterfeit brady bonds

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/09/324488.shtml


I'll get back to you with the security exchange commission investigations.

[we can do it]

53. Great - Thank You, I Will Get Busy Reading These

Thanks

[DemInDistress]

55. YOU ARE WELCOMED...PLEASE PASS AROUND THAT

story the money angle is very troubling very disturbing...adds points to why the bush crime family wanted the sept 11 attacks..

[we can do it]

56. Whoa - That Brings Yet Another Angle Into The Light - I Already Shared It

...with one friend - she wants to read more, too. The motives and benefits all point to booshco. Wasn't there some evidence/info dealing with the enron scandel housed in WTC7 also? (I don't have a link on it at this time)

[DemInDistress]

59. yes now that you mention it

I recall something about enron being criminaly investigated and their case files were housed in of all placeS
WORLD TRADE 7.....Thank you can do..

I'll check back tomorrow with you...

[we can do it]

60. Enron SEC Evidence in WTC7

Here's what I saw about Enron & WTC7. Do you have anything more in depth?


http://911review.com/attack/wtc/b7.html

[DemInDistress]

50. S.E.C. criminal investigations of halliburton

remember the SEC had their offices in WORLD TRADE 7...12TH FLOOR. and after the attacks and collapse of WT1 there was little fire yet the 12th floor was a raging inferno..ARSON??
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/shareholder2004.ht

I love my GOOGLE

[we can do it]

54. Well - Appaently the Page Has Fallen Down the Memory Hole

I got this message...The page you were looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

13. My bullshit antenna went berserko

when those towers collapsed in on themselves in a perfect footprint.

Way too many unanswered questions to just blithely believe that the airliners caused a demolition-style collapse.

[mopaul]

15. we lie to you and spy on you to protect you so fuck you

[KAZ]

17. Gets private companies to scrub pictures...

.. of him and Abramoff.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007536.php

Call the comapny. [phone] Let em know how you feel.

The revolution was not telivised. Happened under our nose.

[mopaul]

19. what else have they paid to cover up?

[we can do it]

57. Hijackers On Abramoff's Casino Boats - HMMMMMM

[savemefromdumbya]

63. this needs following up

anything's possible

[HuskerDU]

20. I think that their explanations are difficult to believe. And

I'm wise to when they say the phrase, 'Noone could have imagined.'

They couldn't imagine planes being used as missles. What were the Japaneese doing in the Pacific in WWII? Were they or were they not given explitic warnings that America was going to be attacked just a month prior to 9/11?

They couldn't imagine NO flooding. I visited NO once, and my hosts told me then that it was only a matter of time before NO would be completely flooded. The place is below sea level and built on a swamp. Yet. 'noone could have imagined.'

I call BULLSHIT on pretty much everything this administration has ever said.

[mopaul]

22. if spying & lying & stealing are legal, then so was nine eleven

[stillcool]

21. There is so much troubling and damning information...

out there. Anyone believing the Osama did it version, has not bothered to question. And this is the problem with people still addicted to televised news. They say they want to know what the other side is saying. But there is only one truth, and we all have our own version of it. To imbibe fallacies and discern your own truth from that pile of crap, is no advantage.

[Jara sang]

29. Terror Timeline - speaks volumes

The evidence is overwelming for Bush's involvement in 9/11.

[leftofthedial]

36. well it worked!

Murka hasn't been hit by terrists since 9-11. Everybody knows this is true.

So if king george needs to kill a few thousand more Murkans, that is fine by me.

[Ezlivin]

42. We've "haven't been hit" if you don't count the ANTHRAX attacks

What the hell was that? A made-for-TV movie?

The administration always neglects mentioning the anthrax attacks. I wonder why?

[leftofthedial]

47. you didn't see my invisible sarcasm smilie?

they neglect mentioning the anthrax attacks because they did it

and those they sent it to got the message loud and clear

that's why we have alleged Democrats voting FOR a nazi like Scalito.

[we can do it]

61. Hmmmm- Cause the Goverment Only Did It To Democrats?

[chat_noir]

41. stop asking

[Independent_Liberal]

65. 9/11 is the key to it all. It's the achilles heel.

To become a true democracy again, expose 9/11.

[we can do it]

66. I Agree - But First We Gotta Get A Lot of Heads Out of the Sand