Drudge :NYT TUESDAY: DEAN CAMPAIGN HITS TURBULENCE

[Snivi Yllom]

NYT TUESDAY: DEAN CAMPAIGN HITS TURBULENCE
Mon Jan 12 2004 16:41:35 ET

Democratic Party officials now say that Howard Dean has slipped into turbulent territory, the NY TIMES is planning to report in Tuesday editions, beset by challenges and problems in both Iowa and New Hampshire, the two states where he was looking to nail down the nomination with early decisive wins.

Newsroom sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT how NYT's Nagourney is polishing a story about the Dean troubles.

"Dean's supporters expressed distress Monday at what many described as his faltering performance in a televised debate over the weekend, the latest in a series of difficulties he has encountered here," Nagourney claims.

"With the rest of the field working in Iowa, Gen. Wesley Clark has taken advantage in New Hampshire to move up in the polls behind Dean, drawing crowds that are beginning to rival Dean's and threatening his once dominant position in the state."

Impacting late Monday....



The king of all media whores now has his nose inserted in Adam Nagourney's rear.

[Jack_Dawson]

1. This is news?

Thought we already knew the luster had worn off...leave it to Dredge.

[Lost and Confused]

24. NYT is no Republican Mouthpiece.

This is very bad. Dean is our best chance and the journalistic arm of the Dem. party is poised to say he is faultering in the primary!

[Jack_Dawson]

26. NYT is the paper of record

and I disagree Dean is our best shot at ousting shrub. So do a lot of other people.

[Printer70]

38. LOL, when they're not manufacturing news a la Jayson Blair

eom

[Phelan]

54. and the editorial staff resigned after the scandal

[newyawker99]

30. Hi Lost and Confused!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[benh57]

47. Not really

Speaking as a 'DU Newbie' it actually annoys me and tends to minimize my posts when all the responses i get are 'welcome newbie!'

(oops.. meant to post, not msg.. see, newbie :)

[bitchkitty]

51. You don't have to worry about

me welcoming you, I'm mean as shit.

[Clark4VotingRights]

33. Um, I'm a Clark supporter, but the NYT is a rag

Led the bogus "whitewater" attacks that crippled Clinton's presidency.
Reported that Gore would have lost a Fla recount.

They're disgusting.

[janx]

34. Hey, I've heard that before!

B-)


But the source is Drudge's spin on something by the NYT--not the NYT itself.

I've heard it all before.

[Clark4VotingRights]

40. I've heard you say that you've heard it all before before, janx.

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[janx]

42. No shit?

?

[bitchkitty]

53. DId you hear me?

I've heard that before too!

B-)

[ClarkGraham2004]

35. Um, Dean is our WORST chance.

[AP]

39. NYT sucks. But does anyone really deny that Dean is hitting turbulence.

Look at what we talk about here all day today and this week: credible evidence of Dean turbulence.

Furthermore, who denies Clark is moving up in the polls, and that he and others are getting big audiences on the trail?

[QC]

41. True, but attacking the messenger is standard procedure here now.

Only in the past few weeks we have seen Andrew Young called an Uncle Tom and Charles Rangel an old hack, Carville and Begala denounced as mediawhores, and the Clintons labelled tools of the oligarchy for the unpardonable sin of failing to endorse Howard Dean or, worse yet, having reservations about him. Today, we're even seeing a tribe of Native Americans denounced for the same sin.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

2. unless the NH polls are fake he's winning decisively there

I don't see this as anything other than creating a story- unless there are internal polls not being released.

[asjr]

11. Perhaps the NYT

didn't sell enough advertisement space yet and had to fill in with something. This is just the same song, second verse. It will continue until we have a nominee. Next week it will be another candidate.

[sandnsea]

20. Down ten points in NH

Since December. He definitely hit turbulence, a month ago. We're just starting to see how bad it really is.

[Sagan]

3. Drudge is so sad...

I'm convinced that Drudgie's vaunted network comprises one guy in the NYT press room who lets him know what tomorrow's stories are going to be.

[Renew Deal]

4. This is another person Dean has gone after (Nagourney).

Making this many enemies is a bad thing. BTW, I said Dean had a poor performance at yesterday's debate and got flamed. I guess I am not vindicated that his supporters believe it too.

[w4rma]

12. Dean showed up. Clark didn't. That says more to me. (n/t)

[isbister]

19. You're right

at least Dean does have the courage to show up and stand up to the other candidate's points about him

[Jack_Dawson]

27. and to the other 11 people who saw the debate

People once again: He's not campaigning in Iowa. We'll see you at the Manchester debate.

[Snivi Yllom]

25. How did Dean go after Nagourney?

Details please if you happen to know.

[eileen from OH]

5. I am not at all surprised

the media needs a "story". They need to make the Dem primaries "interesting". They have to fill space. Even if they have to make shit up.

eileen from OH

[dajabr]

6. Whore Media can't lose their horse-race...

Adam Nagourney is going to cast the Dean Campaign in a negative light? No way! :eyes:

[RevolutionStartsNow]

7. Good! It will make us work harder

Most if not all nominees have hit heavy turbulence before they succeeded. Everyone was wondering if and when it would happen for Dean, since he seemed to just be sailing along.

No one ever said it was going to be easy.

[kayleybeth]

8. I'm a Clark supporter

but Drudge can go suck an egg, AFAIC.

[Capn Sunshine]

9. Unlike us, most are just not into the campaign

so they wait for the NYT to publish their stuff.

So, while the hiccups on the road to nomination seem like explosions to some, the importance of the establishment sticking together is the REAL story between the lines.

Any similarity between Nagourneys reporatge and the actual campaign are coincidental.

Just to qualify, I wasn't that happy with the "Debate " performance either. But I and everyone else on the campaign that I know, HATE that format.

You'll see what I mean if Gen. Clark ever participates in one.

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. The NYT must be planning a whopper of a story

if Drudge saw fit to make this an announcement. It's probably going to be big. Remember the Rush Limbaugh drug case that was going down? Drudge reported that the night before. This could be interesting.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

15. LOL Try to control your excitement

We at the Dean campaign are just happy to be getting a lot of press.

And we're just waiting for the backlash to the backlash...:)

[Sean Reynolds]

16. Drudge makes any story big.

Hell I've seen headlines talking about stupid stuff no one would care about.

[KittyWampus]

18. Nah, Drudge Just Likes Spitting On Democrats

and the Times is a Neo Liberal Whore... no wonder they either ignore or marginalise or essentially slander Clark on an almost daily basis.

[Sean Reynolds]

13. Polls seem to say Dean isn't slipping in Iowa or NH.

....

[killbotfactory]

29. That doesn't fit the script...

so we should ignore that fact.

[liberalnurse]

14. I may even leave for Iowa sooner than Thursday....

I support Howard Dean. This democratic hatered, from the DLC and Clintons, is repulsive. My passion runs deep, and I want to work more with the team who really wants to get elected fairly.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

17. Excellent! Go!

And be sure and tell your local media that you are going, they love this stuff.

A local TV station did a story last night on Dean supporters from Santa Cruz going to Iowa.

[wtmusic]

22. Good for you LN

wish I could be there too

[BootinUp]

32. Thats humorous..another I'm a real democrat, they're not post

[retyred]

48. Ah yes, Iowa in the winter

Who could ask for anthing more?


retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”
So I read this book

[dave29]

21. BUT, BUT, BUT

They want Dean, don't they?

[YellowDawgDemocrat]

23. The Stop Dean Movement (DNC) is in Full Swing

You can bet McAullife and Co. are calling in their markers at a feverish pace. When people start asking "why now?", Dean might just stick this up their collective ass's.

Happens every election, the organized power brokers start pulling the strings to smear opposition.

Let's see if Trippi can pull something out of his hat.

[bitchkitty]

28. Drudge?

Hey, I've heard that before!

B-)

[MIMStigator]

31. Dean needs a nap he was terrible in debate

nt

[ClarkGraham2004]

36. Agreed, he looked awful <nm>

[jsw_81]

37. All campaigns hit turbulence

Dubya was almost derailed by McCain last time. Clinton was nearly destroyed by Paula Jones and the draft controversy in '92. Poppy got trounced in Iowa in '88, finishing third behind Pat Robertson and Bob Dole. Reagan got trounced in Iowa in '80. Carter was nearly ruined by his idiotic Playboy magazine interview in '76.

But when all was said and done, they all won their party's nomination and became President of the United States.

[candy331]

43. Jsw-81 your a person after my own heart.

Your post put some sanity to this whole thread.

[goodhue]

44. Nagourney is the rot

[ShaneGR]

45. I find it interesting to see the Dean people bash the NYT

Yes, the New York Times, the most liberal paper in the country... by far.

[slinkerwink]

46. my mother is friends with one of the editors on the editorial board

and trust me, the new york times is no longer liberal.

[ShaneGR]

49. My uncle's sister's cousin knows a writer on the NY Times....

who is amazed that all of their editorials are so liberal even though the editorial staff is so conservative.

[Snivi Yllom]

50. lol

4 degrees of separation?

[Hep]

52. They're not trying to stop Dean, they're trying to stop US.

n/t