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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:22 PM
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Amid the fighting, something good
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 06:31 PM by PatGund
Had a rather interesting discussion last Saturday with a batch of assorted friends who also want to see the unelected fraud out of the White House this year.

A couple of us were Clark supporters, (myself included). A batch were Dean supporters, and there was even a couple for Kerry and one for Kucinich. And not all were Democrats either, (A couple of independents and one GOP member who would rather have Dean elected than Bush).

Now, if you based your assumption on some of the threads I've seen here, you would expect us to be fighting like cats and dogs.

And you would be incorrect.

I don't recall anyone saying anything nasty or hateful about any of the candidates we were supporting. The Clark Supporters all liked Dr. Dean as well, and the Dean Supporters all liked Gen. Clark too. The Kerry people and the Kucinich supporter were the same. While we had our favourites, we all agreed that any of our candidates would make an excellent president, and that we would all support and help the one who got the nomination to go on and win in November.

So please, when the infighting and snipes get too much, remember that we're all in this together, and that the goal in November is to make sure the Democratic nominee causes Bush to lose his second election in a row. No matter if the Democratic nominee is Clark, Dean, Kerry, Kucinich, or any of the others, all of them would make a fine president, and all of them deserve all our support, even if they aren't who we wanted in the primaries.

(Note - edited to remove terms that I wasn't aware some may find offensive.)
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:23 PM
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1. I have found that to be true out in 3D land too....
the real world has been much nicer than GD lately.... even Republicans
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:24 PM
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2. Excellen post, PatGund.....
it is easy for us here at DU to lose our focus on what the real goal is.

Welcome to DU. :hi:
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:25 PM
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3. Nice post.
I had a very similar experience at breakfast in a greasy spoon this morning. I was wearing my Clark button and got drafted into a political conversation with a small group at a table, 2 waitresses and several patrons at the counter. Oddly, Lieberman had the majority of supporters in this group (he's an old-fashioned democrat). But the whole conversation was very strongly anti-Bush and interested in the various candidate positions, strengths and weaknesses. There was NO animosity.

I'm telling you -- it comes from the anonymous posting online. The venom is cheap and easy because there is no accountability in terms of real human relations.

peace.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:42 PM
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8. What kind of Clark Button did you have?
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:44 PM
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9. Nothing fancy
like your post -- just the "official" Clark '04 button from the campaign web site. But, his name is legible! LOL
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:47 PM
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11. I saw a bunch of Clark stuff on eBay too
I love campaign stuff :-) Great for starting conversations.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:45 PM
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10. Or this one?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:25 PM
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4. this is exactly my experience in the RW.
I'm around Democrats all the time in the RW, and I have yet to hear a "I won't vote for X, if he's nominated" from a Democrat yet.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:27 PM
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5. So true
I had a conversation in a bar last night with a Clark supporter. We discussed many of the ISSUES one finds on DU and the conversation was nothing but cordial.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:30 PM
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6. Amen Brother!


From this Dean supporter right here, I will fight to help get any of the nominees elected you mentioned.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:36 PM
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7. kick
:dem:
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 07:59 PM
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13. Amen kick.
Say amen brother.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 07:12 PM
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12. Thank you for posting this.
:grouphug:
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